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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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3a is the big black wire with the red strip


ill be on msn for a few then back outside to finish up my dvd install
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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damn why couldnt you be on the east coast.
keep up the search guys im following these navi/dvd threads.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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Thew,

Did you notice that the pioneer box looks exactly like the Av box? I bet there is 1 manufacturer out there and the outside is just relabeled. It is to coincidental that the connectors are all in the same location. Anyway, anyone on the east coast that needs help with these just PM me. I am in NY about 25 miles north of the bronx.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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yes i did.. i would like to hold one and look at it carfully..


I think you may be right.. Or it s a good copy.. the avbox .. much more expensive.. but Pioneer says there not making that unit anymore. I think ther just getting ready to sell one thats better.


P.S. Got my DVD up last night.. Looks great !!!! Very nice res.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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So it does work. Does install take long and is it hard? Could I use it to play My X-box on the NAV screen?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Does the Pioneer unit do the switching between nav and dvd, or is there a separate switch?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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the pioneer box does the switching.. you control it by remote control
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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i will be posting pics of my progress so far also tonight if i get a chance... so far ive been building the irosd box and prepping the vga cables...
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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could any of you guys who have installed this do a DIY step-by-step installion guide with photos for us?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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Mines on the way bought the refurbished one off of ebay. It's good buy my local audio shop wanted $100 more for it.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Horse
could any of you guys who have installed this do a DIY step-by-step installion guide with photos for us?
I just ordered the parts (except for the rearview camera) and I'll try to document my installation with photos when I get the parts.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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has anyone started making their ir/osd box yet?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by Mazda3ndp
has anyone started making their ir/osd box yet?
Are you installing the AVElectronics unit or the Pioneer unit?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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Uh, what's this ir/osd box? More important, what's it used for and how do I make it?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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its all here search for it.. theres so much info on the avbox install now its funny
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:32 PM
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Sorry Thew, but I've read this entire thread twice and can't find out anything about this ir/osd box other than that it is shown in the block diagram,but no function or construction details.

I used the search feature on the board and only found this thread.

Guess I'm just incompetent.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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from what i understand the ir/osd box takes place for the pioneer boxes lack of built in infrare red eye for the remote... also i have gathered that the ir/osd also controls the sync... i could be wrong i just know that you need it..
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by bobclevenger
Sorry Thew, but I've read this entire thread twice and can't find out anything about this ir/osd box other than that it is shown in the block diagram,but no function or construction details.

I used the search feature on the board and only found this thread.

Guess I'm just incompetent.
sorry my above post was not directed at you.

I know that you have to run a I/R reciver to a location somewhere in your dash. I put mine in the mp3 blank in the head unit. Thats all i know.. the Pioneer and the AV box are almost the same unit. they both need you to run an I/R reciver cable. Ihave no idea what the OSD is ..

As for sync.. you get the sync signal from the back of the OEM dvd player. so no clue what the osd would have to do with that ..

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 02:30 AM
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No prob.
The only thing that comes to mind for IR/OSD is Ifra Red/On Screen Display. That's just a guess, though.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by bobclevenger
No prob.
The only thing that comes to mind for IR/OSD is Ifra Red/On Screen Display. That's just a guess, though.
Correct.
In terms of the Pioneer box, the IR/OSD box is something you have to make on your own.
The IR function of the box is to control the tuner unit by pointing it at the eye wherever you decide to mount it, instead of having to point it at the tuner box (if you decide to mount it behind you somewhere).

The OSD function of the box is to modify the composite sync signal into something the Pioneer box can understand. That way it can overlay the on-screen menus directly to your lcd display unit. Otherwise, you would have to make menu selections blindly.

Keep in mind that the Pioneer box is best used with Pioneer navigation units, and Pioneer displays. For OEM navigation input/output some cutting and splicing (and in this case, soldering up a circuit board) is absolutely necessary. If you had a Pioneer lcd display unit that was compatible with the GEX P7000TV tuner then you wouldn't have to worry about making the IR/OSD box, and everything would work like hooking up a vcr to a tv.

For more details, follow the links at the start of the thread. Then read and click through all the links regarding wiring and the ir/osd unit.

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 04:26 AM
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For more details, follow the links at the start of the thread. Then read and click through all the links regarding wiring and the ir/osd unit.
Thanks for pointing me back to those links, GiN. Yes, I'm planning on using the Pioneer box and the Blaupunkt DVD player.

This looks to be pretty easy, and it ought to be fun too!

I'm wondering how hard it would be to add a reverse camera to the second composite input. Hardest part would seem to be reversing the image. Cameras that reverse the image internally are available, but I'm cheap and want to use a low-priced one!
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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i think osd stands for on screen display... i wonder if you could just buy the osd box from aveelectroncs... hmm does anyone have a pic of the osd box on an ave unit?
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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if you look here...
http://www.swooby.com/z/navpc/
and look at the schematic what is the J1. and also if you try to buy an el4583 chip... its impossible... i have ZXFV4583 its the same chip but half the size.. any help?
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