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Old 02-28-2008, 02:47 AM
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If you want matching H11 fog lights than go here-

http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-1-1-1-38095.cfm ( Luminics H11 Pure Blue 6000K )

They have 7000K ones too. http://www.eautoworks.com/index20!ma...dID!106967.cfm
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OK, I received my 1 Untinon bulb, which I got at a steal on eBay for $25! Definitely love the look and have already ordered a second bulb to complete the set. Here are some comparison pics of the 6000K vs the stock 4300K. It's daylight out, so I can only take pics in the garage, so I can't take them from a distance. I will update tonight with some more pics. Also, I have a pretty cheap digital camera, that doesn't really show light color acurately.

Stock bulb (As anyone who has the stock HIDs knows, it is almost a pure white light, with the slightest yellow tinge to it.)



Philips 6000K Ultinon (the color is white with a blue/purple tinge (more blue than purple, and almost an exact match to my V-LED parking and corner bulbs even more so than it looks in the pic)

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Dude..Still waiting for those night pics. Try and get a better camera too. :P
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How does it compare in terms of brightness when driving?
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Yes yes..TELL US AND SHOW US~! I think maybe they were so bright he crashed.. :/
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No, haven't crashed. Sorry, I'll take some night shots tonight, for sure. I'm still waiting for my second bulb (should be here on the 11th). I can't really tell a difference in brightness, but it's hard to tell because I have one of each in right now. I can tell a difference in the color of light it casts on the ground though. Check back here in a few hours.
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kk...can't wait.
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OK, here are the pics. The difference is subtle, which is good, I didn't want them to look too blue. Driver's side is the Ultinon:



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ah..looks decent. nice. Thanks
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Originally Posted by sosonic
If you want matching H11 fog lights than go here-

http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-1-1-1-38095.cfm ( Luminics H11 Pure Blue 6000K )

They have 7000K ones too. http://www.eautoworks.com/index20!ma...dID!106967.cfm
I actually have a pair of Luminics Titanium Whites and they are decent bulbs. I was thinking about picking up a pair of the Ultra Violet ones (second link you posted). Here is a pic of them in action from a google image search (excuse the Scion):



Compare the color to the Ultinon:
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can you please post a wall shot with the 2 different bulbs???
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Originally Posted by NSrobbie
can you please post a wall shot with the 2 different bulbs???
Too late, sorry. I received the second bulb yesterday and already installed it. Maybe Zelse can take some pics during his install.
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Soon as I get them that is...sure. :/

Post wall pics anyways though..I wanna see. :x
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Just so you know, the Philips Ultinon 6000k bulbs are only 2400lm. Compared to the stock bulbs at 3200-3400lm, that's about 25-30% dimmer.
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... Man...Where were you like.. 8 posts ago? :/
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I have been also thinking of changing out my HID's for Yellow w/ yellow fog lights. Would there be a positive change or any at all? Does anyone have them and think that they are worth it?
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Originally Posted by Rotary Rasp
Just so you know, the Philips Ultinon 6000k bulbs are only 2400lm. Compared to the stock bulbs at 3200-3400lm, that's about 25-30% dimmer.
Yeah, I know that those are the stats, but honestly I haven't been able to tell much of a difference. 95% of my driving is in the city though, so maybe when I'm out of town I'll notice a difference. Besides, 2400lm is still far superior to the 1500lm halogens in the base model 8.

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Originally Posted by Zelse
... Man...Where were you like.. 8 posts ago? :/
I actually stated that in the 2nd post about a year ago.
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Originally Posted by GEO1007
I have been also thinking of changing out my HID's for Yellow w/ yellow fog lights. Would there be a positive change or any at all? Does anyone have them and think that they are worth it?
What are you going for? Looks or performance? The stock 4300K bulbs are going to be the absolute brightest HID bulbs. I haven't been able to find the luminous flux of the 3000K Ultinons (which I think are quite new) but I'd guess they are around the same as the 6000K.

As far as the fogs go, the RX-8 fogs are really just for looks, they aren't even wired to come on seperate from the headlights, although there is a DIY here to wire them to do so. I have PIAA yellow fog bulbs and I've even removed the reflector caps from the fog housings and from the driver's seat I really can't tell if they are on or not... unless I am in the garage.
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Aipex..You have the PIAA fogs? I ordered them too but they're not in yet..take a pic of the headlights with the fogs, would ya? I definantly want to see that. Especially against the wall. And you took out the fog reflectors? Whys that? :x
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Maybe "reflector cap" is the wrong term, I'm not sure what it's called. It's the metal cap that goes over the bulb in the foglight housing. Only US spec cars have it. Look closely at foglights of J spec and Eu spec cars and you won't them. Anywya, here's what my fogs look like up close. I'll take some pics of the lights on tonight if it stops raining... not likely.

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kk..sounds cool. as for the reflector comment (we'll just call it that for now) ..if you don't mind me asking.. because I'm a huge guy when it comes to details..where did you get that info or what pics did you notice it on? If thats the case I'm going to go take them out right now myself. And how did you take them out anyways? Thanks man.
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Originally Posted by Zelse
kk..sounds cool. as for the reflector comment (we'll just call it that for now) ..if you don't mind me asking.. because I'm a huge guy when it comes to details..where did you get that info or what pics did you notice it on? If thats the case I'm going to go take them out right now myself. And how did you take them out anyways? Thanks man.
If you look closely at any pic of non-US RX-8s you'll see what I'm talking about. Take a look through the "super autobacs" thread for example. Here are two Mazda press pics of the RX-8, the first is a US model (notice the amber corners), the second is a European model (notice clear corners and euro plate). Look closely at the fogs.




Removing the cap is pretty simple and very unsophisticated. Remove the foglight housing from the plastic shoud (two screws hold it in place, one on the under side, one on the side closest to the center air dam opening, no need to remove the bumper). Remove the bulb from the housing if you haven't already. You'll notice that the cap is on a metal stalk. Insert finger and bend the cap/stalk up and down, repeat until the metal stalk breaks (which it will do right at the base). Pull the stalk out through the bulb hole. You'll notice that the cap is just a hair too big to fit through the hole. While holding the stalk, reach in with a needle nose and give the cap a squeeze and pull it out. If you look closely at the close up pic of my foglight (below), you can see the broken stalk and a small phillips screw holding it in place. If you can get a tiny screw driver head in there, taped to your finger maybe, you could probably remove that too. Obviously, I didn't bother. Replace the housing and enjoy your new euro spec foglights!

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Old 03-13-2008, 08:14 PM
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sweet man, thanks! I'll do that when I get my PIAA's in..BTW, notice those squares on the front bumper of the europian model? wonder why those are there, but not on the jap one? Oh well, anyways, thanks again. Show some pics of those fogs and all man~!
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Originally Posted by Zelse
sweet man, thanks! I'll do that when I get my PIAA's in..BTW, notice those squares on the front bumper of the europian model? wonder why those are there, but not on the jap one? Oh well, anyways, thanks again. Show some pics of those fogs and all man~
Those are headlight washers, a little arm comes out and sprays water on the headlights. They are required on any car with HID headlights in Europe (but not in Japan).

Anyway, here are a couple of pics. First just a pic of the new Ultinons:


Ultinons + PIAA fogs:


Against a wall (alone first, then with fogs... not much of a difference):



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