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Old 10-14-2007, 01:15 PM
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Shark Fins

So what does everyone think of these? In terms of looks.... lol the guy in this thread got owned.. https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...in#post1410048

I think they look cool....but idk if I should put them on my 8... Here is my 8 atm





So shall I add one of these onto it...





but a proper black one that matches with the paint??



I asked a technician @ my local garage who fitted my Pioneer rear seat Tv's and he said if linked to the sat nav / TV it would dramatically boost reception and with the right kit I could get freeview (UK based satellite channel service)

So opinions??


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Old 10-14-2007, 01:48 PM
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My opinion: Wash your car!

I personally don't like the fins, but in the end its your car. If you like it, go for it.
Old 10-14-2007, 02:13 PM
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dont do it, and wash your car too...
Old 10-14-2007, 02:15 PM
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we need more pictures of you next to your car to make a good educated decision (as long as that's you in your avitar)
Old 10-14-2007, 02:18 PM
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Nice try CTrx8.....................

To the subject at hand...................please don't do it as we will have to ban you!!!!!!

Well, if your hot....maybe we won't ban you, but don't do it any way.

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Old 10-14-2007, 02:33 PM
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at least i wasnt the one to put it that way...^
Old 10-14-2007, 05:16 PM
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lol @ ctrX8

we need more pictures of you next to your car to make a good educated decision (as long as that's you in your avitar)
thnx for the quick replys guys... ive decided not to put a shark fin on ^^ and yes my car is clean....it had a premium valet done 2 days ago ... inside, outside, engine blah blah ... but it does look kool wen its a bit dirty ^^

n ill post mre pics of the car and myself up 2moz..

nite x

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Old 10-14-2007, 05:22 PM
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what are those square boxy things under your headlights??? i have only seen them on the euro cars
Old 10-14-2007, 05:27 PM
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^^Headlight washers (sprayers, whatever you want to call them), pretty sure Canada gets them too.
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very cool thx
Old 10-14-2007, 06:36 PM
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shark fins look very bad on the 8
Old 10-15-2007, 12:22 AM
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hmmmm, hope you didnt get the fin.....cuz i think thats totally BMW style and i hate bmws so bad.....
Old 10-15-2007, 12:55 AM
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put it under your spoiler lol. i dont like the look of it but if you hid it you get the perk of getting tv channels
Old 10-15-2007, 02:03 AM
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we have one members here with the shark fin on wb ings+1 kit, looks like a bmw wannabe.
Old 10-15-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by snipaz2420
what are those square boxy things under your headlights??? i have only seen them on the euro cars
Xenon headlamp washers. All / most cars with Xenon headlamps have to / have headlamp washers. This is due to the nature of the Xenon beam, and any specs of dirt / dust etc will make the Xenon light refract, and due to the high intensity of the light it can blind oncoming cars etc so hence the lamps have to be clean.


n yh i decided not to buy the fin after all ^^
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Originally Posted by Fortunate Few
put it under your spoiler lol. i dont like the look of it but if you hid it you get the perk of getting tv channels
I wonder if someone has integrated an antenna into the rear spoiler? Seems like a good way to get better reception and not sacrifice looks by using an ugly fin (or whatever).

The only caveats are the car would need a rear spoiler and it's probably not feasible to modify an existing spoiler
Old 10-15-2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by X+7R3ME
Xenon headlamp washers. All / most cars with Xenon headlamps have to / have headlamp washers. This is due to the nature of the Xenon beam, and any specs of dirt / dust etc will make the Xenon light refract, and due to the high intensity of the light it can blind oncoming cars etc so hence the lamps have to be clean.


n yh i decided not to buy the fin after all ^^
United States cars do not get the washer.....regardless of headlamp type.

Thank you for not buying the fin!
Old 10-15-2007, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by X+7R3ME
All / most cars with Xenon headlamps have to / have headlamp washers. This is due to the nature of the Xenon beam, and any specs of dirt / dust etc will make the Xenon light refract, and due to the high intensity of the light it can blind oncoming cars etc so hence the lamps have to be clean.
All/most? WTH does that mean? And xenon light somehow refracts differently than other headlights?
Old 10-15-2007, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jethro Tull
All/most? WTH does that mean? And xenon light somehow refracts differently than other headlights?
No, that's actually correct. It's not that xenon light refracts differently, it's that it's much brighter than halogen so the glare effect is multiplied. US regs are totally different though, so that's why you don't see them here. From Wikipedia:

"Dirt buildup on headlamp lenses increases glare to other road users, even at levels too low to reduce seeing performance significantly for the driver. Therefore, headlamp lens cleaners are required by ECE Regulation 48 on vehicles equipped with low-beam headlamps using light sources that have a reference luminous flux of 2,000 lumens or more. This includes all HID headlamps and some high-power halogen units. Some cars have lens cleaners fitted as standard or available as optional equipment even where the headlamp specifications and/or prevailing technical regulations do not require them. North America, for example, does not use ECE regulations, and FMVSS 108 does not require lens cleaners on any headlamps, though they are permitted. Lens cleaning systems come in two main varieties: a small motor-driven wiper blade or brush conceptually similar to those used on the windshield of the car, or a fixed or pop-up high-pressure sprayer which cleans the lenses with a spray of windshield washer fluid."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:52 PM
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Ah, so it's an INTENSITY issue. That does make sense, thanks for clearing it up, but X+7R3ME's explanation is still mostly bunk. There's nothing intrinsically different about the properties of xenon light, the Wikipedia entry even states that some halogen lights are sufficiently bright to warrant the lens cleaners.

But I'm still at a loss as to real need because I've yet to see an RX-8 with a less-than-spotless headlight cover!
Old 10-16-2007, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Aipex8
No, that's actually correct. It's not that xenon light refracts differently, it's that it's much brighter than halogen so the glare effect is multiplied. US regs are totally different though, so that's why you don't see them here. From Wikipedia:

"Dirt buildup on headlamp lenses increases glare to other road users, even at levels too low to reduce seeing performance significantly for the driver. Therefore, headlamp lens cleaners are required by ECE Regulation 48 on vehicles equipped with low-beam headlamps using light sources that have a reference luminous flux of 2,000 lumens or more. This includes all HID headlamps and some high-power halogen units. Some cars have lens cleaners fitted as standard or available as optional equipment even where the headlamp specifications and/or prevailing technical regulations do not require them. North America, for example, does not use ECE regulations, and FMVSS 108 does not require lens cleaners on any headlamps, though they are permitted. Lens cleaning systems come in two main varieties: a small motor-driven wiper blade or brush conceptually similar to those used on the windshield of the car, or a fixed or pop-up high-pressure sprayer which cleans the lenses with a spray of windshield washer fluid."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp
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Yh thats what I meant.. sorry if I wasn't clear lol it was 12am n i was tired

Yh all cars in the UK with Xenon headlamps have headlamp washers. But even Saabs without Xenon headlamps have washers, and old Volvos have the wipers on the headlight lol....like Jethro Tull said... the cars ive mentioned had halogen lights... maybe brighter then usual

The HID headlight systems available in Europe differ somewhat from those used in the United States. The problem of glare for oncoming drivers is lessened with European systems which feature a sharper horizontal cut-off in luminous intensity above the height of the headlights.
Nonetheless, with the European design on bumpy roads, the sharp cut-off bounces up and down, flashing into and out of an oncoming driver’s field of view.
The last 2 lines is what I meant by "refracting angles & stuff"....

But when I said it refracts differently now this isnt an issue now because of adaptive Xenon headlights as they move up and down depending on road conditions / humps/weight in car etc... and the fact that some headlights swivel/move when the steering is turned etc...

http://www.escrs.org/eurotimes/April2003/high.asp

Interesting article about Xenon lights ^^

and back to the thread i like the idea of integrating an aerial or booster inside the spoiler... But I want satellite TV in my car lol .... so i need to find a way of getting a signal booster / antenna fitted elsewhere...

Check out the shark fin on the Saabs boot...does that lk good?



1 Aerial is for phone signal booster (phone prep. option) / sat nav and other for radio

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Old 10-16-2007, 01:20 PM
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youre from europe, so for some reason you guys think the fin is stylish but here everyone besides euro car lovers dont like the fin. might as well put 2 on the side of the car that way you look like a fish.
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lol ... I like the use of the word "Euros" ^^

Its true... Shark fins are popualr here. Many enw cars here have them and I can see why. They look so much nicer and make the car like sleek, sexy & stylish.

Lol or put 12 and make is look lyk an evo (well they are vortex generators)

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i said euro not euros. votex generators are a bit smaller then fins.
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I just think it ruins the look of the car, even on the Saab. Of course that is just my opinion. It is your car and if you like them................do it and make yourself happy. That's all that really counts.
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