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Highway8 07-17-2010 11:24 AM

GI: APR Spoiler GTC-200 and GTC-300
 
There are currently 3 WTB threads open for people looking to buy the APR GTC-200 RX8 Specific Spoiler. I think if we pull our buying power we can get a great deal on the spoiler. I have already made contact with both APR and an APR distributor and both are willing to work with me (I have a california resale license) and I have gotten an initial quote from the distributor for 3 spoilers and the prices look good.

If you are series about wanting one of these spoilers please vote, if you are dreaming, please dont vote. I would expect to get 25-30% off MSRP with shipping included.

Here is some info on the APR GTC series spoilers: http://www.aprperformance.com/index....d=33&Itemid=44

The GTC-200:
http://www.aprperformance.com/index....d=36&Itemid=44

The GTC-300:
http://www.aprperformance.com/index....d=35&Itemid=44

Here are some pictures from a member who installed this on his rx8.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-exterior-appearance-body-kits-27/apr-gtc-200-wing-fitment-193694/

Vivid racing installed one on there APR sponsored RX8
http://www.aprperformance.com/index....id=31&PageNo=1

If you are series about wanting one of these spoilers please vote, if you are dreaming, please dont vote. I would expect to get 25-30% off MSRP with shipping included.

TeamRX8 07-17-2010 11:38 AM

There are only you and I looking for one that I'm aware of. I'm not going to wait much longer so LMK.

Highway8 07-17-2010 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3638696)
There are only you and I looking for one that I'm aware of. I'm not going to wait much longer so LMK.

There was a thread started a few months back and on that one someone talked about a gtc-300. So I figured it's was worth a shot.

TeamRX8 07-17-2010 11:45 AM

He ended up with a GTC-200

I want the optional gurney flap too


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Krazed_Rx8 07-17-2010 01:47 PM

GL to both of you, not my cup of tea ;)

Highway8 07-17-2010 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Krazed_Rx8 (Post 3638771)
GL to both of you, not my cup of tea ;)


These are functional spoilers for a race track, not for driving around on the street. They offer a lot adjustability and will provide downforce at autoX speeds and up to high speed road courses 150MPH+.

I have the mazdaspeed spoiler right now and will keep it for the street but I am adding a track only splitter real soon and will need some additional rear end df to balance the car on 100+ MPH turns, well they were 100MPH turns. Maybe 110 when all is said and done.

c0ldf1ame 07-17-2010 02:12 PM

if you get a good price i may be interested, preferably a gtc 300 with the gurney flap, i may just save for a voltex wing tho, not too sure yet

Krazed_Rx8 07-17-2010 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Highway8 (Post 3638787)
These are functional spoilers for a race track, not for driving around on the street. They offer a lot adjustability and will provide downforce at autoX speeds and up to high speed road courses 150MPH+.

I have the mazdaspeed spoiler right now and will keep it for the street but I am adding a track only splitter real soon and will need some additional rear end df to balance the car on 100+ MPH turns, well they were 100MPH turns. Maybe 110 when all is said and done.

So how are u gonna do it? Swap trunks every time u track or do city driving? Or will these bolt on through the holes u have for the Mspeed spoiler?

Highway8 07-17-2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Krazed_Rx8 (Post 3638805)
So how are u gonna do it? Swap trunks every time u track or do city driving? Or will these bolt on through the holes u have for the Mspeed spoiler?

I am in the market for a second trunk (black, vr or CF) and I will swap them. I already swap tires and brakes. I will be adding a splitter that I will swap so the trunk is just another 5 minutes.

I could probably use the MS holes but the lip piece on the ms bumper uses 3m tape so once it comes off its done.

TeamRX8 07-17-2010 05:57 PM

The tape just seals the edges and minimizes rattling. Just swap it out foam rubber with only 1-side adhesive or you could also make a thin rubber pad cut to fit as well.

Highway8 07-17-2010 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3638934)
The tape just seals the edges and minimizes rattling. Just swap it out foam rubber with only 1-side adhesive or you could also make a thin rubber pad cut to fit as well.

Not a bad idea and it would save me some money and time. Worth a try that's for sure.

Highway8 07-18-2010 09:35 AM

I should have said it before, but this is open to any apr product. More we buy the better pricing we get. So if you have an RX7 or a Miata a friend with an S2000, doesn't matter. We will bundle our buying power for a great deal.

TopGear8 07-18-2010 01:08 PM

If you have the 3 buyers, what would the final price be?

Highway8 07-18-2010 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by TopGear8 (Post 3639374)
If you have the 3 buyers, what would the final price be?

I'm not sure I am allowed to post that info until the group buy is official, but figure 30-35% off msrp or better.

TopGear8 07-18-2010 02:24 PM

If you can get the group buy for less than $650. Then I'm in. 100%

awwqpwwa 07-19-2010 01:26 AM

I'm in. Wondering if this would be cheaper than the 600 evasive price for the gt200?

Highway8 07-19-2010 01:38 AM


Originally Posted by awwqpwwa (Post 3639830)
I'm in. Wondering if this would be cheaper than the 600 evasive price for the gt200?

Here is what I can tell you. Evasive is selling above jobber price, I plan to get these well below jobber price. If I can't beat their price I won't bother, but within a few hours and 3 emails I already got a quote that makes me very confident I can provide the rx8 community with the best price.

Gr8Bullet 07-19-2010 02:55 AM

It looks good but idk if I can drop that much on a wing. Lol if it were more like 400-450 that would be better.

Highway8 07-19-2010 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by Gr8Bullet (Post 3639858)
It looks good but idk if I can drop that much on a wing. Lol if it were more like 400-450 that would be better.

I will get the best deal possible but if you are hoping for 400-$450 you will be disappointed and I should remove you from my count of possible buyers. But I can tell you I am aiming to be within 10-15% pre shipping cost from $450.

Remember these wings dont just look good, they are functional for racing, adjustable, strong and lightweight.

Gr8Bullet 07-19-2010 03:27 AM

lol yeah im very interested but i dont have the cash for this mod atm....

yeah my friend has one his yellow 8 and he says he loves it all around.

Highway8 07-19-2010 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by Gr8Bullet (Post 3639868)
lol yeah im very interested but i dont have the cash for this mod atm....

yeah my friend has one his yellow 8 and he says he loves it all around.

I dont expect to pull the trigger for atleast a few weeks and idealy we will make an inital purchase of approximately 5 and will be allowed to purchase more individualy for another few months. I should have more info tomorrow.

Gr8Bullet 07-19-2010 03:47 AM

ok yeah the more info the better lol

TopGear8 07-19-2010 01:11 PM

^It's not that much money...Lets try to speed this up, I'd like to pay within the next week.

TeamRX8 07-19-2010 01:43 PM

For what it is this is an excellent buy, the people competing need time to dial the overall setup in so the sooner the better

TopGear8 07-19-2010 02:58 PM

^Indeed.

Highway8 07-19-2010 03:38 PM

I am listening and I am on it guys.

Highway8 07-19-2010 05:22 PM

To help estimate shipping cost you guys can go to fed ex http://www.fedex.com/ratefinder/home...&locId=express

The ship from zip code will be 91789

The shipping size and weight for the GTC-200 is 63x15x6 and 18lbs. the gurney flap is 73x5x5 and 10lbs (total package not the actual flap alone) APR says they can package the gurney flap inside the wing box. So add maybe 4 lbs to the wing, but it doesnt matter because its dimensional weight.

The GTC-300 is 74x15x15 and 28lbs. The gurney flap is the same as above.

Risers add 1lb and can be packaged with the wings also.

looking4 07-19-2010 06:44 PM

I am definitely in!

manny z 07-19-2010 07:32 PM

APR wing deal
 
For all you guys that compete with your car, I can tell you this, these thing work!! And work really well. A top of the other aero mods I have done to my car, this made quite a difference in my cars mid and high speed handling.

So for this price, you guys should really not pass up on this deal.:fingersx:

awwqpwwa 07-19-2010 08:44 PM

This shipping from location is my backyard almost. Is there a way I can pick it up or do I have to still do the shipping?

Highway8 07-20-2010 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by awwqpwwa (Post 3640807)
This shipping from location is my backyard almost. Is there a way I can pick it up or do I have to still do the shipping?

I will find out for you.

TeamRX8 07-30-2010 01:25 AM

Installed mine this evening.

TopGear8 07-30-2010 10:20 AM

^Yeah I got mine on yesterday, with the 2.5" raisers this thing is huge :)

xl2oGel2x 07-31-2010 03:46 AM

Pics?

TopGear8 07-31-2010 10:39 AM

I've taken pics with my phone but they aren't all that good. I'll take some good pics soon.

Highway8 07-31-2010 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by TopGear8 (Post 3655968)
I've taken pics with my phone but they aren't all that good. I'll take some good pics soon.

Anyone running a front splitter with the wing?

I wonder how effective the wing will be on the track without a good functional splitter.

I wont have my splitter ready by my next track day, I will probably do a back to back test between the Mazdaspeed wing and the GTC-200. I am thinking I can get the same down force or more with the GTC-200 with less drag then the MS. The question is how much rear downforce can I use before causing understeer.

awwqpwwa 08-02-2010 04:41 PM

What do you use between the wing and the trunk? Rubber or 3m double sided sticky?

Highway8 08-02-2010 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by awwqpwwa (Post 3658311)
What do you use between the wing and the trunk? Rubber or 3m double sided sticky?

No tape. There is a piece of hard rubber between the bracket and the trunk. Fits in the stock spoiler and the mazdaspeed spoiler mounting holes.

TeamRX8 08-03-2010 05:49 PM

There's a 3rd hole on each side from the OE wing that doesn't get covered by the APR mount. If the wing was installed by a 3rd party they may not have drilled them, as they are just for a pop-in type plastic locator clip and only hold the wing in place when the hold-down bolts are removed. Unfortunately I drilled and used them when I installed the Mazda wing on my car. I plan to use a small piece of colored duct or cloth tape to seal them off on my car. My trunk lid also shows a marring line on the finish from the outline of the OE wing. It won't buff out completely as it's worn down below the top coat surface. Not really an issue for me since it's a competition application rather than a show car. I also have a spare non-wing trunk lid I could use instead if it mattered to me.

TeamRX8 08-03-2010 05:52 PM

also APR wing>MS wing

pdxhak 08-03-2010 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Highway8 (Post 3656049)
Anyone running a front splitter with the wing?

I wonder how effective the wing will be on the track without a good functional splitter.

I wont have my splitter ready by my next track day, I will probably do a back to back test between the Mazdaspeed wing and the GTC-200. I am thinking I can get the same down force or more with the GTC-200 with less drag then the MS. The question is how much rear downforce can I use before causing understeer.

How do you plan to measure the down force?

TeamRX8 08-03-2010 06:08 PM

You don't have to unless you want the exact #s. Otherwise the APR design exceeds the MS design in every way.

Highway8 08-03-2010 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 3659956)
How do you plan to measure the down force?

I will be going off lap times and the feel of the car.

Basicly I will run several laps with the mazdaspeed wing then switch to the APR and run some more, adjust the wing and run several more, adjust it again and run more. I will keep track of top speeds down the straights (can go down because of drag, can also go up because of a higher turn exit speed), entry/exit speeds of the turns and overal lap times.

I still love the MS wing for its clean street look but Mark is right, the APR wing is just a better track wing. But only when adjusted correctly for the vehicle/track and as part of a complete track aero package. If you stick this wing on a stock body, stock ride height and adjust for maximum downforce, you will cause understeer in the turns and you will increase drag which will reduce top speeds.

awwqpwwa 08-10-2010 06:11 PM

All of those that have the wing. What pitch angle are you using. I used a ruler from the back of the wing where the gurney flap corner is. Not on top of the flap. To the front. The middle section. All the way down no adjusting came to be 7 deg. I have it set at 18 now. Just wondering what angle you guys are using.

sthio 08-13-2010 05:05 PM

can anybody tell me the regular price for both wings? how much discount for this group buy? if the price is right, I might actually be in this.

Thanks!

TeamRX8 08-13-2010 05:16 PM

The info for both of you is on the APR Performance website

awwqpwwa 08-14-2010 10:56 AM

I was just wondering what you guys were personaly using. I've gone over the website. Checking to see how everyones differ from mine. I'm still playing with the angles.

TeamRX8 08-14-2010 11:00 AM

if you've been to the website then why do you have it set at 18 deg?????????????????????

awwqpwwa 08-14-2010 07:30 PM

That's why I asked. And also why I stated how I measured the angle. I obviously don't have the tool they sell to measure it. I know 18 is way to steep but if what I measure is 7 from the start meaning 0 because it was at no adjustment then 18 would correlate in to 11 which is near max recommend. Anyways it's not nearly as much anymore. I'm afraid my trunk would cave under pressure. Thanks anyways.

Highway8 08-14-2010 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by awwqpwwa (Post 3674232)
That's why I asked. And also why I stated how I measured the angle. I obviously don't have the tool they sell to measure it. I know 18 is way to steep but if what I measure is 7 from the start meaning 0 because it was at no adjustment then 18 would correlate in to 11 which is near max recommend. Anyways it's not nearly as much anymore. I'm afraid my trunk would cave under pressure. Thanks anyways.

Trunk wont cave. U could probably have two people sit the wing without any issues.


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