mikeb

You just dont get it.
You are probably the time of guy that just buys what's popular or changes your favorite sports team according to who's in first place. The whole point is to have something unique, custom and different from every other person on the street.

8 is enough

mikeb you are so wrong about me i live in dallas and was/is a dallas cowboys fan even with dave campo as head coach, if you are going to do a job do it right don't spend 500 for a part and cheap out of the extra 100 or so for a proper installation, i agree with you on having something unique or different but i am a perfectionist

mikeb

who says we dont pay for installs
and if we dont whats wrong with working on your own car

wakeech

alright, i yeild on the fibreglass vs. urethane issue (the guy who'd told me so was obviously wrong... he was shopping for body kits, i asked him why he didn't want to go for the fibreglass, and he said "too heavy" *shrug*).

swifty, if the toe was out of spec after a run becuase of downforce on the car, then the package is still bad. in a straight line application, downfoce is useless. lift is bad, but downforce would be nothing more than extra drag and energy wasted. and yes, you CAN set records with an unbelievable motor and very mediocre aero kit, especially if every other competitor has an equally mediocre setup too. again, see the top-speed racer, and top-flight drag racing aero setups: low drag is it, and that Vielside kit can do a whole lot better.

efini, yup, i'm being pig headed about veilside, mostly 'cause i am instinctively opposed to that which is wildly popular. ricers (no, not everyone who likes the garage is a ricer, but...) have this sort of hard-on for anything that comes from Japan (Jaaay Deee Emmm!!) as it's somehow inately better than something made anywhere else (same deal with the Bimmer and Porshe snobs: the hose clamps must be of a particular brand). Veilside, as a big-shot Japanese tuner is a pantheon of ricerdom. they do a lot of good stuff (obviously build really sick race cars), but i just have to succumb to the itch of scrutiny and skepticism, only because it's loved so blindly.

btw, the windtunnel thing was mentioned by the last kid who tried to convince me that Vielside is god's gift to japanese cars.

computer generated flow analysis can be useful, and i know is utilised in tandem with windtunnel programs in F1, but is still a way too rudementary and slow method to really be relied upon as a primary source of analysis. cheaper, it can be in some applications (like making body kits for the masses with work a little bit), but not always the case in others (trying to design a championship-winning race car).

8 is enough

mikeb, its when it comes down to spending a hour to do the install right or just 15 min tape and glue job that is rice, that is not doing the job right. I live in dallas near a rich school district and see tons of 18 yr olds that bought tons of stuff for the car and just put it on and went with it, in under 1 hour sometimes, there was no planning there was not skill, it was shear impulse

huhsler

Can "rice" be used in a good sense?

Heard on streets:

"Aw snap! That chick is hot!"

"Aw snap! That sucks dude."

mikeb

this thread has turned into RICE

Efini 8

ok obviously you guys do NOT know what the definition of RICE is...

RX8Lover

I think this about sums it up for all those who wonder what the definition of rice is.

IMAGE WAS TAKEN DOWN SO AS TO NOT HURT SOMEONE'S FEELINGS ANYMORE

revhappy

Wow, dude you are harsh. While, I'm not a fan of those types of modifications, I think you are denigrating a forum member who did put a lot of time and money into something.

mikeb

rx8 lover

you are a joke and have no life

Elara

OKay, that's about enough. RX8 lover, that was pretty uncalled for. Please remove it. Do you guys want to keep going, or shall I close this thread?

RX8Lover

I don't get it? Isn't this thread's sole purpose to discuss what "Rice" is? What does it matter whose car it is? It is asking the opinion of what people consider rice to be.

mikeb

I would like to keep going
its personal now

rx8lover you are just a internet tough guy arent you

RX8Lover

whatever

I guess you can't take criticism. keep in mind that I'm not alone in disliking your "taste".

red_rx8_red_int

I also say keep this thread going.

Rx8Lover, although I see your point(s) in the now removed pic, it was uncalled for. I would not have made all the pictured mods myself, but the car looked fine and there's nothing wrong with appearance mods. Does anyone here think the 8's distinctiveness is all functionality based? No, the 8 is very stylistic. It's a drop dead gorgous car, but not for functionalty reasons. For aesthics. Your post crossed the line and was personal, for no reason but to slam another forum member.

mikeb

bottom line
rx8lover wouldn't be saying that stuff about my ride to my face

Geek

Wow Can't believe I missed the pic...but member bashing seems to be the in thing right now...just check what XDEEDUBBX had to say about me in his Chrasma hood thread...

Geek

"RICE" Stuff you bye at the store...Example Uncle Ben's...
"RICER" Ignorant person who thinks looks make it go fast
"RICEY" Term used by people who don't like gaudy apperance mods

Just my OPINION=)

pyrospawn

I think some members are a little to harsh in their opion. Not everone can afford nice car or can put a lum sum of money down for a nice one. Not everyone buy ferrari or lambo for performance purpose alone. Lot of people buy them for the name, LOOKS, and lastly performance.
I might not do the same mods but do understand the feeling of improving your car's appearance. And I do admire their time/money/dedication that was spent.
Last but not least, please remember "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder", ie. I think Piscasso's arts looks like crap, but wtf do i know. They sell for million $$.

Ricer or not they are all CAR LOVERS!!!

KK, putting flame suit on now :D

RX8Lover

Some people (I shall not name names...) dump $20 grand into their Civics. They buy a $15,000 car and make it into a car worth...$15,000! All that money could easily have been put towards a nicer car to begin with, and that owner could then have "pride" in what they drive from the get-go, instead of doing all those senseless upgrades to establish their pride.

I have no problem with tasteful upgrades, performance or aesthetic, but the line gets crossed when you do things that amount to more than the car is actually worth.

mikeb

you just dont get it
Yes I could have bought a mustang , camaro or whatever for 15k and had the same car as every other guy on the street. I bought a civic and made it my own. It was unique and not mistaken for anyone else's.

Gord96BRG

I gotta defend mikeb here - i previously said in this thread that my definition of "rice" was mods that are supposed to look like they make your car faster, but actually make it slower (or else fake mods, like stickers for parts you don't have, Type R badges on anything but a Type R, fake roll cages, etc). fart can exhausts, giant wings, heavy bodykits that just add drag, etc. mikeb's Civic was customised to the hilt, but it wasn't rice. He didn't have a fake rollcage or a giant wing, his mods were cosmetic and intended to be cosmetic, not fake go-fast stuff. My understanding from the outset was that his intention was to go for a custom look, not to pretend to have a racer. Customised, yes - rice, no. (and I'm a pretty harsh critic of plenty of ricer mods, too).

Regards,
Gordon

RX8Lover

You just don't get it.

Are you saying that everyone has a Mustang and Camaro, but NO ONE has a Civic??? Everyone and their mother has a Civic, and 3/4 of the Civics are modded to hell. So to think your car wouldn't be mistaken for someone else's is, well, laughable.

Also, what you should keep in mind that it is a Civic, for Christ sake. After all you did, deep down it is still a Honda economy car. Everyone knows this. All the paint and all the body kits just cover up the sad truth.

mikeb

idiot,
point is NO ONE had a civic like mine