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wcs 12-30-2012 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Nedash (Post 4401616)
First my apologies if this is a stupid question, but I am not too electronically savvy, at least when it comes to programming things.

But would it be possible with this to make the oil pressure gauge in the OEM cluster show actual readings? Or is this controlled in the cluster itself and the PCM has absolutely nothing to do with it?

On the S1 there is no oil pressure sensor.
The oil sensor that is located in the oil pan is merely a level sensor.

(don`t know about the S2)
But the gauge doesn`t indicate pressure either, I don't recall seeing a psi or kpa unit of measure on the gauge, just a L and a H.
Check again, I think that you`ve mistakenly implied that it`s indicating pressure when in fact it`s really just worthless.

Nedash 12-30-2012 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by wcs (Post 4401618)
On the S1 there is no oil pressure sensor.
The oil sensor that is located in the oil pan is merely a level sensor.

(don`t know about the S2)
But the gauge doesn`t indicate pressure either, I don't recall seeing a psi or kpa unit of measure on the gauge, just a L and a H.
Check again, I think that you`ve mistakenly implied that it`s indicating pressure when in fact it`s really just worthless.

I know it's just a worthless dummy gauge, but it says "Oil-P", though you are right that there is no unit specified.
If there's no pressure sensor on the S1, there is pretty much no sense to my question, I was just wondering if you could make it behave like a normal pressure gauge as the old Miatas have. Would have been cool, though...

ShellDude 12-30-2012 11:04 AM

I'm pretty sure Mazda was afraid to show the masses the pressure range of the 8. On the S1 that gauge would be going from 13psi at idle to 60+ at max load. Also, I don't recall even seeing the idiot gauge on the S2. Pretty sure it was dropped.

dannobre 12-30-2012 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by wcs (Post 4401618)
On the S1 there is no oil pressure sensor.
The oil sensor that is located in the oil pan is merely a level sensor.

Sorry...but there is an oil pressure sensor...it is just below the oil filter on the drivers side of the engine. It is likely just a pressure activated switch rather than a linear sensor...but it does give you a go/no go reading of the pressure...

The level sensor in the pan is seperate.....

Brettus 12-30-2012 12:51 PM

Anyhoo - I just tuned a very sweet running ported NA 8 with this . Almost made me think about going back to NA .... almost :)

Brettus 12-30-2012 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4400546)
I addressed that earlier too.

Addressed or not - this is a discussion about Mazdaedit . No-one here is trying to sell it to anybody . I was just pointing out what it CAN do .

wcs 12-30-2012 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 4401684)
Sorry...but there is an oil pressure sensor...it is just below the oil filter on the drivers side of the engine. It is likely just a pressure activated switch rather than a linear sensor...but it does give you a go/no go reading of the pressure...

The level sensor in the pan is seperate.....

Ahhhh thanks Dan.
Sorry about the hijack Brett

TeamRX8 12-30-2012 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4401724)
Addressed or not - this is a discussion about Mazdaedit . No-one here is trying to sell it to anybody . I was just pointing out what it CAN do .

and I was just pointing out that I acknowledged all that which BTW you challenged me on earlier in the thread, so I'm not sure why you are beating it into the ground.

Yet to see it can do anything more on an S2 than access the PCM and maybe log. Let's see the maps and such if you can. :dunno:

X7rotor 01-05-2013 04:26 AM

This is all ecu flash with the name mazda instead

X7rotor 01-05-2013 04:38 AM

http://zombieshop.bustedfingermotors...CU%20Flash.jpg

...just seems like uou connect a normal tactrix 2.0 and tune. But i havent read all 6 pages so someone may already know...but did you know theres also a program that gives you full runtime as well. Worked with my eclipse swap may work for this.

thewird 01-05-2013 04:52 AM

ECU Flash won't read/write the map. Nor can it read any sensors. In other words, it doesn't work, nor does it have anything that can be used.

thewird

X7rotor 01-05-2013 01:58 PM

Yet the interface looks vary similar..its not hard to change the parameters when ecu flash uses the same rom files.just seems like they changed a bit of programing for it to work on the mazda pcm.

thewird 01-05-2013 02:03 PM

Every OBD2 programmer looks the same. By your logic anyone could be modified to work. The rom is just a hex file like it is for every ECU, any hex editor can change it. The hard part is actually accessing the ECU and then the definitions for the actual maps. Tactrix has shown no interest in any Mazda support.

thewird

X7rotor 01-05-2013 06:18 PM

Lame. Cause this would be free tuning no need for stand alones or the cobb if this was easily access When i was in the 3g forums thats how they tuned therr car by getting a tactrix cable for the eclipse and tune away.

TeamRX8 01-06-2013 08:49 PM

I doubt you any more want to work your ass off for free any more than anyone else does. I still say that without too much effort any competent hex artist can get to the same level as Cobb by using their work. Have yet to see anyone exceed it yet ...

X7rotor 01-08-2013 02:05 AM

You dont check out the evo forums or eclipse forums. There is no cobb for the 3rd gens so we use ecu flash for turbo builds 3.5 3.8 swaps tuning evo swaps. We dont have a cobb tuner for our car.

TeamRX8 01-14-2013 09:43 PM

so were you going to go back in all the threads where you gave props to MazdaEdit and make sure they all know that $1300 only gets you 100 flashes on an RX8? :dunno:

It's a significant issue because anyone with tuning experience recognizes that a 100 flash limit is not even remotely acceptable regardless of price.

Harlan 01-14-2013 10:03 PM

Very disappointing development. I'm really hoping mazdaedit will surpass Accessport, but this is a major setback. Guess I'll keep watching from the background.

Brettus 01-14-2013 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4409622)
so were you going to go back in all the threads where you gave props to MazdaEdit and make sure they all know that $1300 only gets you 100 flashes on an RX8? :dunno:

It's a significant issue because anyone with tuning experience recognizes that a 100 flash limit is not even remotely acceptable regardless of price.

Thought i would give the guy a chance to fix it before splashing it all over here ...

TeamRX8 01-14-2013 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4409637)
Thought i would give the guy a chance to fix it before splashing it all over here ...

quick to promote, slow to disclose ...


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Brettus 01-14-2013 10:19 PM

Two days I've known about it - how does that compare with other issues people discover about vendors around here ?

Plus - I did disclose it in my turbo thread . Jeeze man ... get over yourself !

TeamRX8 01-14-2013 10:41 PM

I have no intention of purchasing it without more proof, my concern is for other people who might drop the dough and end up hung out. If I'm hung up on anything it's over not wanting anyone else to experience the $1000 I dropped on the Hymee ProTuner and got totally hosed on because I listened to people talking it up that had no idea what they were promoting ....

shr3da 01-15-2013 01:54 AM

Disappointing development, hopefully they resolve it shortly, best of luck.

auzoom 01-15-2013 02:14 AM

Surely the Subaru guys would have the same issue?

Hymee had the same issue originally and I can't recall why the resolution was.

shr3da 01-15-2013 02:26 AM

Have you started experimenting with Mazdaedit yet Andrew?


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