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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 02:21 AM
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funky power with Stage-1...

Coming from an S2000 (I still own) VTec 'activated' around 6000 rpms, and there was a 'kick' when it activated of power.

The stage-1 with my current flash (not L, but I don't know what it is), has what appears to be 2 of these kicks of power..

However, its actually distracting.. I get more power 5000-6500, then a dip for about 300 rpms, then another 'dip' in power from 7500-7900 or so, then full power again.

Its kind of like 2 VTec's kicking in, but it almost feels like I'm letting off the throttle-- does the L-flash help with this? I'm sure I have the stage 1.1 which is probably tuned for the L-flash.

Also, should I turn the Stage-1 ECU mod OFF when getting the upgrade to the L-ECU flash, or is it okay to leave it on?

thanks,
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 02:52 AM
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the power drops/kicks are due to different intake tract valves opening and the airflow destabilizing for a second. there's really no way around it. the L flash does little to correct this, as it's not a design flaw. you can verify this on a dyno sheet.

if i were you i'd remove the unit all together if it was at the dealer. if they spot it, consider your warranty shot.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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I'd concurr with the pulling of the unit for the "L" upgrade.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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I thought dealer flashing was done via an OBD port inside the passenger compartment? If so why would they need/want to open up the ECU box?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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It is, but if for some reason there is problem, the tech may open up the ecu box to do a visual inspection. It's just not worth having your warranty voided over a removal process that takes 15-20 minutes.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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1) Use security bolts on the PCM box. Tech can't open, tech can't inspect.

2) If you put a sign in the engine bay that reads in big red letters "I VIOLATED MY WARRANTY", he will miss it.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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1) Use security bolts on the PCM box. Tech can't open, tech can't inspect.
What kind of security bolts were you thinking of, Jeff?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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they make security torx bolts that require a special kind of bit to open.

but that might make it look suspicious, and then theyre bound to find a way to get it open, and/or look for it through software.

just take it out. you dont have to put all that other crap back in there. takes 10 minutes.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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You guys don't know mechanics very well, do you? He will drill/cut his way in, even if he doesn't have to! Heck (can I say that - will the FCC fine me , one of them cut the clips off Maurice's PCM box just because he couldn't figure out how to release them!
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