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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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Are there any other tuning alternatives to the cobb because i dont have 730 lying around...
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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sure. the EMU can be had pretty cheaply, though it takes almost constant adjustments to keep everything running right for most people. if you rewire things and do it properly it can be a bit better, but it seems like a pain. The Int-X is also there, there are some downsides to it as well, one of which being it doesnt have the granularity to idle like OEM. i think there are a few using the Powermod as well.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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MY EMU wired right seems to do just fine. For NA - I would say it is a decent option - but really not going to have the seamlessness of Cobb - and the HP gains are probably very small.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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MY EMU wired right seems to do just fine. For NA - I would say it is a decent option - but really not going to have the seamlessness of Cobb - and the HP gains are probably very small.
yours has Jeffs wiring right?
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Hymee's Scanalyser Pro-Tuner

Also Pettit is offering an NA tune using the EFI Dude hardware so thats an option.

Also there is a flash solution available or soon to be for the DashDaq
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:55 AM
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If you can do without your ECM for a week, the Racing Beat flash is an option. Half the price.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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how effective is racing beat
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 05:30 AM
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Another question along these lines.

What is the advantage of paying $300 to the custom AP tuners for a stock setup, over the maps posted on the Cobb Forum? The car is an 04 MT N/A stock exhaust and setup. Are there any major gains to be had by paying the extra money for the custom tune?
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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I'm actually a little curious myself on what you guys have seen with someone using the AP and being completely stock.
I know they can't expect major HP gains being totally stock, but what kind of tuning adjustments have you guys made to stock setups?
Something that would help with engine longevity?
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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leaning out the super rich AFR's can help sqeak out some HP.

VS8: as mentioned above, plenty of options just comes down to what you want out of the car and how much your wallet is willing to part with
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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its always a trade off between cash and functionality..
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Old Mar 11, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
leaning out the super rich AFR's can help sqeak out some HP.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought running rich was better on the cat and leaning it would cause it to fail sooner.
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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Do I need a ap to get my 8 tuned?

so I have all the goodies exhaust intake pulley and midpipe and was wondering if I need an ap to get my car tuned ? Advice? And if I don't dose anyone know of a good turn we in orange county
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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Yes, or:

Intercepter X
Microtech
Canzoomer (obsolete)
Racing Beat (fixed flash, can't tune)

and now there are two more that also have a fixed flash.
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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Until you get around to it.....

The factory ECU will adapt to your mods - they will cause no harm to the engine (other than throwing a CEL for the missing cat).

AccessPort or Hymee will get rid of the cel, and optimize your A/F ratios with your mods.

If you can't find a tuner local to you that will dyno or street-tune your car, then I'd recommend a MazdaManiac tune on the AccessPort.
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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As I read on the AccessPort post for MazdaManiac, ANY HP increase is going to reduce engine or cat life.

Tuning involves many variables, many of which are inversely proportional to each other.

Kind of like, "Fast, easy, or cheap. Choose two".
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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racing beat flash

pettit na service
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Old Mar 12, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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merged 2 concurrent threads
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