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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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Searching thru threads, reading AP manual and looking to AP Manager software i have not found way to raise idle (besides getting already made map with raised idle from you or somewhere else).

Is that correct? Or can i use AP Tuner Race for that?
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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yes, in accesstuner race its as simple as editing a cell.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
yes, in accesstuner race its as simple as editing a cell.
If you want your idle to dip or be irregular or not properly compensated for the A/C, decel, changes in temperature, etc.

Otherwise, it's as simple as editing 45 cells.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
If you want your idle to dip or be irregular or not properly compensated for the A/C, decel, changes in temperature, etc.

Otherwise, it's as simple as editing 45 cells.
a cell or two...
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
a cell or two...
lol
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:47 AM
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mazdaEdit can log & read & flash RX-8 ECU

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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:49 AM
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/\ where can one purchase that from ?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:55 AM
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/\ where can one purchase that from ?
http://www.epifansoft.com/phpBB3/index.php

looks like we need more info about that :D
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:04 AM
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mazdaEdit (ecuEdit) is software with universal Logger, LogViewer, MapEditor. Software have open XML-defs structure, so customer can create map defs and logger defs by your own using built-in defs editors. mazdaEdit have implemented RX8 and other CAN-bus mazdas protocols for logging and flashing. Also map description package included to software pack for quick start. Description of RX-8 ECU contains more than 500 3d and 2d maps with proper Axises. Purpose of most of them is unknown... But, Ignition, Fuel, MAF, Throttle, Idle and etc is known.

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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by epifan
mazdaEdit (ecuEdit) is software with universal Logger, LogViewer, MapEditor. Software have open XML-defs structure, so customer can create map defs and logger defs by your own using built-in defs editors. mazdaEdit have implemented RX8 and other CAN-bus mazdas protocols for logging and flashing. Also map description package included to software pack for quick start.
Personal version (one ViN only) price?
Pro version (VIN policy? price?)
Hardware supplied? If not, which is supported?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:18 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:40 AM
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Does it read and start from the existing ROM in the PCM?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Does it read and start from the existing ROM in the PCM?
Yes. But may be you can't download/flash ROM with AP installed (it can lock ECU from reading/flashing). I didn't test this because we are haven't AP on our market
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Didn't we already have a discussion about the EpiEdit software a few months back?

{edit} - I know I've had a discussion about this package before, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Anyway, according to your site, the RX-8 version still isn't available, and the software is "read-only", anyway. I'm not sure what you are getting at with this offering.

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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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For EU guys (Like me) there is no other option (that I know about) then Hymee ProTuner that lets you do what you want. sort off atleast.

Let your customer buy Scantool or a scantool+protuner brick depending on what they want.

Selling tunes via a Token VIN basis will probably spell disaster in the long run, easier to help your customer if they can logg and send you the loggs (your customer dont need to show up at your shop all the time)
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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The AP works on European cars, as long as you have the AccessTUNER PRO.
Works on JDM vehicles as well.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Anyway, according to your site, the RX-8 version still isn't available, and the software is "read-only", anyway. I'm not sure what you are getting at with this offering.
I'll release version with RX8 flash support at this week. Currently, I'm in direct testing software with rx8 owner. And we haven't any problems with disabling DTC, changing limiters and logging. At a next day we are start to tune fuel and ignition.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The AP works on European cars, as long as you have the AccessTUNER PRO.
Works on JDM vehicles as well.
Obtaining the AccessTUNER PRO is the only problem for the DIY user though :D
This is not necessarily a downside though, Cobb is unknowingly saving a lot of engines given the average user's capabilities here.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The AP works on European cars, as long as you have the AccessTUNER PRO.
AccessTUNER provide only those maps that recognize by AP developers. You'll didn't have access to all maps which operates ECU. In more complex tune projects that may be not enough.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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AccessTUNER PRO is a bit costly.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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highly interested in mazdaEdit (ecuEdit) software. will it work with my elm 327interface that i use on my laptop

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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The AP works on European cars, as long as you have the AccessTUNER PRO.
Works on JDM vehicles as well.
Does this mean AP and AccessTuner Race will not work on EU/JDM?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by epifan
AccessTUNER provide only those maps that recognize by AP developers. You'll didn't have access to all maps which operates ECU. In more complex tune projects that may be not enough.

Assuming you can figure out what they are/do. The Cobb engineers are no dummies. What they provided is fairly complete WRT practicality. I've yet to see anything to the contrary.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hIGGI
Does this mean AP and AccessTuner Race will not work on EU/JDM?
Race gives you the Pro tuning tools, but it was only provided for the US market. You'll need Pro for any significant JDM & Euro tuning as previously stated.

Pro is $1500. Neither Hymee or Cobb can access an original/unknown ROM.

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 05:19 AM
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If you see a big market going with AccessTUNER PRO and Cobb will be an excellent solution.

If you only are going to have a few customers now and then go with the Hymee Pro Tuner.

If you only want to scan for CELs go with a Scantool.

ecuEdit maybe interesting but I wouldnt go down the road ones more with an untested software.

Just my 2 cents..
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