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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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Any infromation on removing what looks like a chamber on the left (driver) side of the intake. (Its a 4"x4"x2" estimate looking plastic chamber connecting to the intake between the MAF and the TB. Looks like a brake fluid cap sized hole if i removed it) I capped the VFAD line right in front of this "chamber", before the check valve and TB. Plan on removing the whole system this saturday and just was wondering what removing this "chamber" would do?? My VFAD lines dont run like in the previous schematic post but functionally I believe its the same.

EDIT: air pulse damper is what i think that chamber im talking about is called. From a fluid dynamics point of view I can;t see why they would put a empty chamber on the side of the intake?????

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Old Jul 30, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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^If its the chamber on the flexible intake tube, that's a resonance chamber.
Removing that will only make your car louder.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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<---- rotary noobie
What is advantage of capping off VFAD?
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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By not introducing vacuum back into the VFAD line, the valve stays open at all times.
It is really used to reduce engine noise below 5500rpm.
At 5500rpm the valve opens to allow a 2nd air inlet into the intake.
Some people claim to feel a difference, but I believe that the increase sound makes it appear that the car is moving faster.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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lol yep... actually the other day I utilized the removed vfad area to construct a cold air duct into the stock airbox from the front bumper grill
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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I capped my VFAD after work yesterday and i can tell a little different in loudness and just a hint of better throttle response. It's a nice little tweak i guess to put on the roster yaaa meannn
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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I'll cap it after work today. What do I do with the hanging hose? just tie wrap it?
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ninjatrader
I'll cap it after work today. What do I do with the hanging hose? just tie wrap it?
With the vacuum line disconnected from the nipple, if you don't zip-tie it out of the way the hose can get caught in the belt or pulley.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Finally did this today...no lag as it opens anymore. Seems like better throttle response, and a little faster rev. I dont think it got any louder, but the tone definatly changed for the better.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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I joined the club, my car "feels" faster.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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i think it made a little difference with throttle response but damn its louder
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Will not having the solenoid conected thow a code? Thats the main reason i kept mine.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tonedef
Jon
Will not having the solenoid conected thow a code? Thats the main reason i kept mine.
No.
The VFAD valve doesn't have a position switch like the SSV and VDI.
Same reason why people who have aftermarket intakes like the AEM and MS don't receive a CEL since they completely remove the whole VFAD assembly.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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Jon, I removed the valve behind the tb and caped it. what do I do with all the other wires and what do I do with the plastic electircal thing? just disconnect it and remove all that?
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by @!!narotordo
Jon, I removed the valve behind the tb and caped it.
There is no valve behind the throttle body.
But as long as you capped the nipple behind the TB, you're all good.

Originally Posted by @!!narotordo
what do I do with all the other wires and what do I do with the plastic electircal thing? just disconnect it and remove all that?
The hoses can be removed along with the vacuum chamber and solenoid if you want.
Zip-tie the wire harness for the solenoid somewhere off to the side.

Or you can just remove the hoses between the vacuum chamber and the upper intake manifold (has a own-way valve on it).

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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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did you get my pm?
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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did you get my pm?
Yes... just responded.
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
No.
The VFAD valve doesn't have a position switch like the SSV and VDI.
Same reason why people who have aftermarket intakes like the AEM and MS don't receive a CEL since they completely remove the whole VFAD assembly.
Thanks, ripped the hole thing out with confidence now. I also connected the solenoid wires to an empty terminal or prong (what ever you would call that) that sits right above where the solenoid was.

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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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Thought I'd chime in. This wasn't as easy a DIY as I thought it would be, but then again I'm fairly new to working on my car. Anyways, I believe I did everything right, but I didn't give maximum effort like some of you seem to have. Is the plugging of the hole by the throttle body for those who took out all the wiring/hoses and stuff? I simply disconnected as close to the Vfad thing, leaving me with a rubber hose that I plugged.

Anyways, I only took a short drive with the vfad removed so far, and it's alright. About a week ago I took out the baffles inside the air intake box and noticed that off the line it seemed I could get going quicker without bogging down. This seems to have reversed that. But on the upside, it does make the engine a bit louder. I took it on the freeway and floored it in sixth, and was surprised to hear a deeper, louder growl from the Renesis. It was still painfully slow, but atleast it sounded like I was going fast. Those with an exhaust, intake, or other powertrain mods probably wouldn't notice much of a difference, but for someone like me who is otherwise stock, I'd recommend it.
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 06:29 AM
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It's fine to leave the vacuum hosing and yes plugging it at the throttle body is only if you removed it all. Actually, leaving the lines makes it easier to return to stock. You don't have to plug the line at the former VFAD actuator locale, but I did to keep the line clean.

I wouldn't modify the stock airbox. Rather get a K&N flat filter element.

The major benefit to removing the VFAD is that it eliminates the hesitiation that was felt when the damper was transitioning to full airflow. With it removed it's only a little bit louder and only below 4500 rpm (low end noise abatement is why the VFAD was designed in the first place).

Originally Posted by Chronisseur
Thought I'd chime in. This wasn't as easy a DIY as I thought it would be, but then again I'm fairly new to working on my car. Anyways, I believe I did everything right, but I didn't give maximum effort like some of you seem to have. Is the plugging of the hole by the throttle body for those who took out all the wiring/hoses and stuff? I simply disconnected as close to the Vfad thing, leaving me with a rubber hose that I plugged.

Anyways, I only took a short drive with the vfad removed so far, and it's alright. About a week ago I took out the baffles inside the air intake box and noticed that off the line it seemed I could get going quicker without bogging down. This seems to have reversed that. But on the upside, it does make the engine a bit louder. I took it on the freeway and floored it in sixth, and was surprised to hear a deeper, louder growl from the Renesis. It was still painfully slow, but atleast it sounded like I was going fast. Those with an exhaust, intake, or other powertrain mods probably wouldn't notice much of a difference, but for someone like me who is otherwise stock, I'd recommend it.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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i de-walled the airbox, dropped in a K&N highflow filter, and removed the VFAD this weekend. It was a breeze. I think actually the first time I worked on my car and nothing went wrong! Im sure i jinxed myself....
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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where can i buy the cap to cap the throttle bypass nipple?
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Youwonder
where can i buy the cap to cap the throttle bypass nipple?
Autozone sells a variety pack of vacuum caps for a couple dollars.
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon316G
Autozone sells a variety pack of vacuum caps for a couple dollars.
did you get a certain size or verity pack
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Old Mar 10, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by the1jesster
did you get a certain size or verity pack
I just got the variety pack because I didn't know the size of the nipple, plus it was only a couple dollars so no big deal.
I don't recall which size I ended up using.
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