DIY: Fog Light Rewire
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thankx alot Omicron your way was the best way cuz not only we can run them alone but with running lights as well :p...... if you run it to the tail lights u can't have them on alone ... thankx man...
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Originally Posted by shawn81
thankx alot Omicron your way was the best way cuz not only we can run them alone but with running lights as well :p...... if you run it to the tail lights u can't have them on alone ... thankx man...
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I just rewired the fogs on my Shinka. Ten years ago I made the same mod to my Probe GT, but this one was so much easier because of this forum, especially due to the awesome photographs!
Thanks, guys.
Thanks, guys.
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Couple of quick questions...Planning on doing this next weekend or so, along with a few other mods if the parts arrive (clear corners, 3rd brake light, etc..)
1) I'm pretty good at connecting things electrically, I build PC's all the time, spliced power supplies to new connectors, etc... but never worked on a car ... did you all disconnect your battery before making your connections? Or is it relatively save so long as the ignition isn't in the ACC or further position and the headlight stalk is all off?
2) Exactly what size were those wiretaps you all used? I didn't catch the actual part number/size anywhere here but someone mentioned to make sure I got the right size... was planning to head to radioshack, so if someone used that brand.. an exact part number would save me a lot of time
Thanks again all for the great DIY!
1) I'm pretty good at connecting things electrically, I build PC's all the time, spliced power supplies to new connectors, etc... but never worked on a car ... did you all disconnect your battery before making your connections? Or is it relatively save so long as the ignition isn't in the ACC or further position and the headlight stalk is all off?
2) Exactly what size were those wiretaps you all used? I didn't catch the actual part number/size anywhere here but someone mentioned to make sure I got the right size... was planning to head to radioshack, so if someone used that brand.. an exact part number would save me a lot of time
Thanks again all for the great DIY!
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I did the Fog Light brown wire to the Tail Light black/red wire and I believe I used a 18-22 ga. tap (Radio Shack part # 64-3053). I also disconnected the battery just to be safe while doing the work because I was not sure whether I was working before or after the switch and also because I disconnected the main power connections for the fuse block to make it easier to get it out.
If you disconnect the battery you will need to follow the procedure on 5-22 of the owners manual to re-enable the DSC (if installed) after re-connecting the battery.
If you disconnect the battery you will need to follow the procedure on 5-22 of the owners manual to re-enable the DSC (if installed) after re-connecting the battery.
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Originally Posted by DaGnome
Couple of quick questions...Planning on doing this next weekend or so, along with a few other mods if the parts arrive (clear corners, 3rd brake light, etc..)
1) I'm pretty good at connecting things electrically, I build PC's all the time, spliced power supplies to new connectors, etc... but never worked on a car ... did you all disconnect your battery before making your connections? Or is it relatively save so long as the ignition isn't in the ACC or further position and the headlight stalk is all off?
1) I'm pretty good at connecting things electrically, I build PC's all the time, spliced power supplies to new connectors, etc... but never worked on a car ... did you all disconnect your battery before making your connections? Or is it relatively save so long as the ignition isn't in the ACC or further position and the headlight stalk is all off?
Originally Posted by DaGnome
2) Exactly what size were those wiretaps you all used? I didn't catch the actual part number/size anywhere here but someone mentioned to make sure I got the right size... was planning to head to radioshack, so if someone used that brand.. an exact part number would save me a lot of time
Thanks again all for the great DIY!
Thanks again all for the great DIY!
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Brilliant? WOW, that's a nice thing to say... nice enough, in fact, that you motivated me to not only go check but also to take a pic of my mod and try to figure out how to post it here. :D
I used a "red" wiretap to tap into the thin white with red stripe wire leading away from the "ACC" relay, which is in the 5th position in the same row as the fog relay, or 2 positions to the right of the fog relay if you look at the fuse box from the right. I picked this wire by removing the relay, then testing with a DMM to find a wire that was "hot" with the ignition key on only.
Hope this helps!
I used a "red" wiretap to tap into the thin white with red stripe wire leading away from the "ACC" relay, which is in the 5th position in the same row as the fog relay, or 2 positions to the right of the fog relay if you look at the fuse box from the right. I picked this wire by removing the relay, then testing with a DMM to find a wire that was "hot" with the ignition key on only.
Hope this helps!
and do this mod....
It took me longer to figure out which version of the mod I wanted to do then the actual time to do it!
All versions are great but I used Omicron's version.
Thanks to ALL of the "Smarter then Me" guys for this!
You are all stellar and I appreciate this (and the other) mods I've taken from this forum!
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Did the fog light mod and works great.
Sins my rear fog light is incoming, I was wondering if it was possible to hook up the positive wire from the rear fog to the cut brown wire.
I would like to be able to control the rear fog when main lights and fog light switch is on.
This is what I would like to have:
Ignition "on" fog lights work when fog switch is on. (No rear fog)
Ignition "on" main lights on, fog light switch on (front & rear fog on)
Is this possible?
Sins my rear fog light is incoming, I was wondering if it was possible to hook up the positive wire from the rear fog to the cut brown wire.
I would like to be able to control the rear fog when main lights and fog light switch is on.
This is what I would like to have:
Ignition "on" fog lights work when fog switch is on. (No rear fog)
Ignition "on" main lights on, fog light switch on (front & rear fog on)
Is this possible?
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Further Fine Tuning....
It was raining here yesterday as well..... I could not make up my mind between the Magnesium and Omicron alternatives. Following an adult beverage and some thought; I wanted to cut only one wire, maintain the ability to return to the stock configuration easily/quickly, and change between fog lights on w/ tail lights or w/o tail lights with the ignition on.
I found the thin brown wire but moved below the first tape wrap to make the cut. This allows enough wire extending from the fuse panel to attach to the tail light relay or the acc relay. I attached a male blade connector, filed slightly to narrow the width and bingo....the connector slides easily next to the thin red/white wire on the acc relay or the thick green/white wire on the tail light relay for maximum flexibility.
Oh yes, on the other piece of thin brown wire leading away from the fuse block, I attached an insulated female blade connector. I can return to the stock configuration quickly by attaching the two brown wires.
This was probably an obvious variation but I wanted to post it anyway. Thanks again to the pioneers in figuring this out. My RX8 now has the same foglight configuration as my Durango and 540!
Joe :D
I found the thin brown wire but moved below the first tape wrap to make the cut. This allows enough wire extending from the fuse panel to attach to the tail light relay or the acc relay. I attached a male blade connector, filed slightly to narrow the width and bingo....the connector slides easily next to the thin red/white wire on the acc relay or the thick green/white wire on the tail light relay for maximum flexibility.
Oh yes, on the other piece of thin brown wire leading away from the fuse block, I attached an insulated female blade connector. I can return to the stock configuration quickly by attaching the two brown wires.
This was probably an obvious variation but I wanted to post it anyway. Thanks again to the pioneers in figuring this out. My RX8 now has the same foglight configuration as my Durango and 540!
Joe :D
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Just hooked up my rear fog light,
Temporary it’s hooked up to the running lights...
Took it out for a spin and when you turn the rear fog on....
People stay way back!
Kind of cool!
Temporary it’s hooked up to the running lights...
Took it out for a spin and when you turn the rear fog on....
People stay way back!
Kind of cool!
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Originally Posted by modena
Just hooked up my rear fog light,
Temporary it’s hooked up to the running lights...
Took it out for a spin and when you turn the rear fog on....
People stay way back!
Kind of cool!
Temporary it’s hooked up to the running lights...
Took it out for a spin and when you turn the rear fog on....
People stay way back!
Kind of cool!
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Originally Posted by Omicron
Yeah, it's REAL bright...
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Originally Posted by Omicron
Yeah, it's REAL bright. I have mine installed but not currently wired in. You might want to put a resistor in the circuit if you're going to leave it wired in as you currently have it, otherwise it's only a matter of time until you get a cop behind you and get a ticket. Just a thought.
It's way too bright, but summer is upon us FINALY!
And don't need the main lights for a couple of months.
(The bright fog might give me a ticket, as long as they don't complain about my none mounted front license plate....)
Got mine from a Belgian dealer, made me a good deal sins he thought of "his"
Fog on a US car sounded great.
Installing was not that bad, but it takes some nerve to us a Dremel to your bumper...
As for focusing downward, no you can’t move or change the "beam"
Sorry....
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u do have a switch for that read fog dont u? i hate when people drive with rear fogs on all the time, the point of them is to be able to see the car infront of u during bad weather, while ur not steppiong on ur brakes. the can see ur rear end jsut fine in clear weather, its jstu a HUGE distraction for other drivers that are behind u... i know when i see those olds auroras with the DUAL read fogs (ya, make sense out of that.. now they look like they are stepping on brakes 24/7.. again defeating the purpose...) and those things are very irritating and distracting.
btw- its not regulation to have fogs on only when driving lights are one.. right? bmws dont do it that way, same with transams, gtos, etc.
btw- its not regulation to have fogs on only when driving lights are one.. right? bmws dont do it that way, same with transams, gtos, etc.
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Tap-In Connectors
I am very interested in doing the fog light re-wire as shown by Bob Clevenger on page 5 of this thread.
Unfortunately, it appears that Radio Shack no longer sells the female Tap-in tab connectors he has shown on wires #3 and #4.
If anyone has any idea as to where I can specifically obtain these type of connectors I would greatly appreciate it. Please don't just recommend going to the local auto parts store.
Thank you.
Unfortunately, it appears that Radio Shack no longer sells the female Tap-in tab connectors he has shown on wires #3 and #4.
If anyone has any idea as to where I can specifically obtain these type of connectors I would greatly appreciate it. Please don't just recommend going to the local auto parts store.
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by davinci74
I am very interested in doing the fog light re-wire as shown by Bob Clevenger on page 5 of this thread.
Unfortunately, it appears that Radio Shack no longer sells the female Tap-in tab connectors he has shown on wires #3 and #4.
If anyone has any idea as to where I can specifically obtain these type of connectors I would greatly appreciate it. Please don't just recommend going to the local auto parts store.
Thank you.
Unfortunately, it appears that Radio Shack no longer sells the female Tap-in tab connectors he has shown on wires #3 and #4.
If anyone has any idea as to where I can specifically obtain these type of connectors I would greatly appreciate it. Please don't just recommend going to the local auto parts store.
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by davinci74
I am very interested in doing the fog light re-wire as shown by Bob Clevenger on page 5 of this thread.
Unfortunately, it appears that Radio Shack no longer sells the female Tap-in tab connectors he has shown on wires #3 and #4.
If anyone has any idea as to where I can specifically obtain these type of connectors I would greatly appreciate it. Please don't just recommend going to the local auto parts store.
Thank you.
Unfortunately, it appears that Radio Shack no longer sells the female Tap-in tab connectors he has shown on wires #3 and #4.
If anyone has any idea as to where I can specifically obtain these type of connectors I would greatly appreciate it. Please don't just recommend going to the local auto parts store.
Thank you.
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Well, I'll just add my name to the list of satisfied customers. Did the fog light rewire this afternoon in about a half hour (I took my good sweet time) and it works like a charm. I did the version connecting to the accessory wire. Also used the connectors shown by bobclevenger, a great find ( I have never seen these before - a super quick disconnect format). btw - I had a hard time finding them. Neither Radio Shack, the local hardware, or Autozone had them. I finally found them at a Farm & Fleet store (a local Wisconsin store) and they only had one size, luckily the right one.
Anyway, works great. I noticed that with this hookup, you can have the headlights, tail lights, and the parking lights off and still have the fogs on. Somewhere along the way I seem to remember this as the "moonshiners option" That is, if you have a full load you're running away from the Feds at night, you can turn off all of your running lights execpt forward driving lights so your pursuers can't see tail lights (as long as you don't hit the brakes) but you can still see ahead and you get away. Not that I advocate such an activity, but historically speaking, it IS interesting.
Nice! Zoom, Zoom
Anyway, works great. I noticed that with this hookup, you can have the headlights, tail lights, and the parking lights off and still have the fogs on. Somewhere along the way I seem to remember this as the "moonshiners option" That is, if you have a full load you're running away from the Feds at night, you can turn off all of your running lights execpt forward driving lights so your pursuers can't see tail lights (as long as you don't hit the brakes) but you can still see ahead and you get away. Not that I advocate such an activity, but historically speaking, it IS interesting.
Nice! Zoom, Zoom
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Tap-in Connector
I have still been looking everywhere to find the tap-in connector Bob Clevenger used, but at least I now have something to go by....
I found the connector on the 3M website: 3M Scotchlok 951
I wrote Glassetcher asking him to pick a few up for me, but rather than bother him, does anyone know of a place close to Wilmington, Delaware where I can pick up one of these little bastards?
I found the connector on the 3M website: 3M Scotchlok 951
I wrote Glassetcher asking him to pick a few up for me, but rather than bother him, does anyone know of a place close to Wilmington, Delaware where I can pick up one of these little bastards?
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<<snipped>>does anyone know of a place close to Wilmington, Delaware where I can pick up one of these little bastards?
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Well it was a busy weekend working on the 8. On Saturday I removed the front bumper/nose to install RB oil and radiator grills, it was easier then I had thought. Next, I replaced the front running bulb with an amber LED bulb. The amber looks good with the velocity red color. Finally I rewired the fog lamps based on Omicron's instructions, this was the easiest task (thanks to all who have contributed to this thread).
Now my 8 looks great with the fog and running lights minus the driving lights.
Now my 8 looks great with the fog and running lights minus the driving lights.
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