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9krpmrx8 08-12-2010 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3671520)
Not at all. There just isn't any time right now.


Gotcha, I think it could be a great resource for us to have, even post seminar.

9krpmrx8 10-17-2011 11:30 PM

Should this really be stickied still?

Andwise 12-22-2012 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by BigOLundh (Post 1582789)
MM,
I finally got a chance to read over the material... AND HOLY SH*T!!! I can't believe how valuable it was. I have a few questions I'll post up later, which you may want to see as questions coming from someone who knew nothing about tuning. Might help with your video.

and yes... let me know when the video is available... i'll be first in line with payment waiting.

-hS

yes you could post whatever questions you want i am always present here to answers these questions.....

4DRcoupe 01-11-2015 08:28 AM

sorry to bring up an old thread but I had a couple of questions.
to reduce the ignition timing split, do you retard the leading or advance the trailing? and why?

logalinipoo 01-11-2015 12:17 PM

I think you'd be better off finding kanes tuning thread, but I've been really interested in this topic the past few weeks.

I would say it depends on what your goals are along with what you've already done with timing. You're n/a right? Have you bumped up any of your timing?

Reducing split is going to start a second flamefront in the engine and the 2 working toward each other will quickly increase combustion pressure. So just increasing trailing 1deg might be the equivalent of increasing leading several deg. And that could get dangerous quick. But i think theres a lot of power to be had by decreasing advance and decreasing split. That way you don't have as much pressure acting backward on the rotor before passing tdc. Then you would be able to get more of that pressure working toward your power stroke.

Ive found a post by Steve kan that says. The lower you set split the more power you'll get, with more split advance timing, with less split reduce timing.

4DRcoupe 01-11-2015 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by logalinipoo (Post 4655430)
I think you'd be better off finding kanes tuning thread, but I've been really interested in this topic the past few weeks.

I would say it depends on what your goals are along with what you've already done with timing. You're n/a right? Have you bumped up any of your timing?

Reducing split is going to start a second flamefront in the engine and the 2 working toward each other will quickly increase combustion pressure. So just increasing trailing 1deg might be the equivalent of increasing leading several deg. And that could get dangerous quick. But i think theres a lot of power to be had by decreasing advance and decreasing split. That way you don't have as much pressure acting backward on the rotor before passing tdc. Then you would be able to get more of that pressure working toward your power stroke.

Ive found a post by Steve kan that says. The lower you set split the more power you'll get, with more split advance timing, with less split reduce timing.

so rather than inceasing the trailing timing to reduce the split, it's better to reduce the leading timing instead...hmm...
by the way did anyone tried the max possible advance in timing for the trailing?

logalinipoo 01-11-2015 10:56 PM

I would find what i think is the max leading, then reduce 2 deg leading for every 1 deg of split.

Just a guess at a starting point. Have a egt or det phones.

4DRcoupe 01-12-2015 07:53 AM

I'm still on the stock timing maps, thinking to adjust the timings to try but not sure where to start.
I would like to reduce my split as first try. will it be fine if I reduce all the stock 15 splits to 10 or less by reducing the leading advance?

logalinipoo 01-12-2015 12:17 PM

Well first off remember i don't really know anything about timing at all.

Id probably adjust from 7500 rpm to redline and 80pct load to max. Then just change it 1-2 deg at a time.

To me timing is the most important and dangerous aspect of tuning. It does directly vary with afr. So more fuel the more timing you can run. Generally the more timing you run, the more power you can produce. Although i personally think You will get more power in the 12.1-13.2 afr range. But at a greater risk of detonation.

boans305 09-01-2015 11:39 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 1559023)
Nah, I've been accumulating this stuff over the last few months as I produce the tuning video.

How do we get the video

TeamRX8 09-02-2015 12:51 AM

you don't, nobody else does either ...

boans305 09-02-2015 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 4715097)
you don't, nobody else does either ...

Ya looked that way after reading through every page. What happen with it? Im new on the site

Kane 09-02-2015 04:11 PM

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-eng...urther-253444/

jkinard 10-11-2017 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 1559362)
Go check what Fred said in the ignition discussion thread.

The OEM PCM goes for up to 40° off-load and 23° to 30° on load with the split going from 15° to 8° in the same conditions.
Idle is -3° and 5° L/T.
At peak torque (and the most knock-prone RPM range around 6k), it goes as low as 19° with an 8° split.


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Ignition timing is normally locked with the lead rotor being like piston 1 as far as what really makes sense to me, but I was bewildered by the timing light flashing when the engine is revved while looking at timing marks. It seems like an advance of -15 degrees might be something.


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