Daemos

So, I'm trying to figure out why a lot of people are waiting for the cobb reflashes, I'm not saying cobb tuning is bad in anyway, as I've seen their products used on subarus and they are amazing. Other than the fact you can (or hopefully be able to use) the access port to flash directly from the car, what advantages would cobb offer over Racing Beat and Promaz?

The reason I'm saying Promaz can do ecu reflashes is because of this page:
http://www.promaz.com.au/rx8.php

As well as https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/axial-flow-supercharger-29778/ <-- certain companies are waiting for cobb to finish their product, so they can release their own.

So any advantages to the cobb?

Charles R. Hill

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We performance car enthusiasts, and rotary geeks particularly, are "tweakers" who would prefer to do most of this stuff ourselves rather than pay someone each time we think we can get closer to the "perfect tune".

Daemos

But to my knowledge...you can only tune if you have the proper hardware, just the access port it self doesn't allow you to tune, don't you need the street tuner software?

Every subaru I've seen that has the AP, just uses the reflashes on the user end, and some cobb dealers have the street tuning software/hardware to go and build maps provided you pay them to do so.

TeamRX8

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I had RB and now have Cobb, you figure it out ....

mdw1000

wow, a turbo without a piggyback ECU, and 5 years of warranty and roadside assistance? I'd be thinking about beating down their door if they were somewhere near where I lived....

mdw1000

Oh wait - it says it is a custom ECU - I don't see anything about a reflash?

Daemos

I would assume it would be similar =/ As I don't think I can interpret ECU as 'piggy back' so unless if they converted to a full standalone, the only thing I can think of is flashing the pcm. But Apparently the North American ECUs and the ecus everywhere else are very different.

I never contacted them to find out though.

mysql101

because with racing beat's flash, you're stuck with a tune that has to be one-size-fits-all.

with the cobb reflasher and software, you can design a map that works best for your car. you can also erase specific CELs - so if you're catless, you can remove the O2 sensor warning.

and of course, you can design the flash to work with FI without using a piggyback for fuel management.

Cody Red

any word on it? what about pricing and such? this is the second time i've heard of cobb so now i'm interested..

mysql101

the old ones were around $700 for the handheld, and a few hundred for the software, not sure what the new ones will cost, they're fancier and have build in LCD screens.

Cody Red

so around 8-900? hm.

rotarygod

With Cobb you'll get the advantages of a standalone ecu with the convenience of doing nothing more than plugging into your OBD port. No need to wire anything else up. It's the best of both worlds. For a nonturbo car, there is only so much you can do so if someone develops a flash that increases performance across the board, chances are it'll be easier to just use it rather than create your own that may or may not do any better. For forced induction use however each system is different. You need to retune. One tune does not do good for another car unless they have the exact same setup. The advantage isn't that great unless you have forced induction.

Daemos

Alright guys thanks That's what I thought.

I wasn't aware cobb's street tuner software was available to the public (although I've never looked into it too heavily before)

sosonic

Would advise others to pay attention to the man that has it and races his RX-8.

SoloMazda8

http://www.unichip.us/search_results...odel=453055263

What about this chip?

NgoRX8

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uhhh

alnielsen

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A member here, takahashi, had some success with it. He is in Australia. He also had written a report of it's usage. With a little digging, on his personal website, you can find what he has to say about it.
I'm waiting for Cobb.

rotarenvy

can the cob tune in real time? or is it flash, see what effect the change had, then modify and re-flash?

Jedi54

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hoping the Cobb unit gets finished up some time soon. (mainly because I want to see if the AFSC is actually going to come out...)

r0tor

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how about... with cobb you don't have to mail your ecu to them and you won't be screwed if the dealer decides to reflash your car

zoom44

promaz sells mircotech ecu's- so guess what their "custom ecu " is.

Keef

I was a big supporter for Cobb, in other words, I was pretty much waiting for there ECU modification too come out. Too me, it really doesn't matter. As a daily driver I don't really want too pay attention to having too deal with tuning because I don't plan on FI, and would rather waste the money too have a laptop software too read the OBD port since I all ready have a laptop. So I decided too stop waiting and change my idea of a ECU modification too that other Racing Beat Flash.

I'm not disappointed at all. Although I haven't tried the Accesport, I haven't seen a single thing that either ECU modification's can't do only in a NA engine.

Of course if you plan a turbo than don't be an idiot and get the Cobb.

olddragger

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do whatever you can to get the fans turned on earlier, aftermarket flash vs standalone doesnt matter. doesnt matter if you are fi'ed or not
olddragger

SoloMazda8

will cobb have a tune that you dont have to tune yourself?

mysql101

If you check the website, they supply downloadable flashes. I would assume they're going to offer flashes for NA on the website.