Rota Grid Drift Wheels?
04-30-2011, 12:14 PM
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Rota Grid Drift Wheels?
Can anyone please give me some advice on whether to get these wheels? They look fantastic but do I need to modify my '06 RX8 to get these to fit?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
04-30-2011, 01:53 PM
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Wrong section. Check the wheel and tire part your answer is probably in there. Also try searching.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=rota+grid
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=rota+grid
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=rota+grid
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ight=rota+grid
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05-01-2011, 08:08 AM
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the real deal... lol
There is a reason there is such a huge knock off market. Most people cant afford to pay 3200$ for wheels when they cant get something thats "good enough" for 700$.
Its NOT a small difference. Its a 450% difference.
Real deal... pfft.
There is a limit to how many wheel designs there can actually be out there anyways. So then the difference only comes to Forged or Cast.
And you pay what you can afford.
There is nothing wrong with Cast wheels, like there is nothing wrong with buying Falken Ziex tires instead of Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec.
You buy what you makes you happy and fits your own needs.
There is a reason there is such a huge knock off market. Most people cant afford to pay 3200$ for wheels when they cant get something thats "good enough" for 700$.
Its NOT a small difference. Its a 450% difference.
Real deal... pfft.
There is a limit to how many wheel designs there can actually be out there anyways. So then the difference only comes to Forged or Cast.
And you pay what you can afford.
There is nothing wrong with Cast wheels, like there is nothing wrong with buying Falken Ziex tires instead of Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec.
You buy what you makes you happy and fits your own needs.
05-01-2011, 08:28 AM
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The difference does not only come to forged or cast.
Wheel design, quality, weight (different casting and forging technologies, alloys used etc) all contribute to the high price difference.
There was a chart here somewhere showing as much as a 1" difference in a medium course just for the use of "better" wheels.
Wheel design, quality, weight (different casting and forging technologies, alloys used etc) all contribute to the high price difference.
There was a chart here somewhere showing as much as a 1" difference in a medium course just for the use of "better" wheels.
05-01-2011, 08:38 AM
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after I wrecked my car and busted my 5zigens I had to go even cheaper than those and get a set quick to replace them as they are discontinued. Ended up going from 17x10 +25 5zigens to 17x9.5 +35. They can fit on a lowered car without a roll (actually they are a little to sunk for my likings and I have been thinking about spacing out the rears a good 10-15mm)
Either way from my 4 months or so of ownership they seem very durable, have accidentally hit pot holes on the highway and higher speeds and have not dented/damaged them in any way. They however are not the lightest of rims, I'm thinking they were 21lbs or so
Either way from my 4 months or so of ownership they seem very durable, have accidentally hit pot holes on the highway and higher speeds and have not dented/damaged them in any way. They however are not the lightest of rims, I'm thinking they were 21lbs or so
05-01-2011, 09:32 AM
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i drift pretty hard with my 8, and i have rotas. i have a friend with a 350z who has the TE37'S and they weigh the same and have the same quality to them.
http://www.importimageracing.com/mm5...&Store_Code=ii
only dfference is that one TE37 is just as much as my whole set! LMAO, even my friend couldn't agree more.
http://www.importimageracing.com/mm5...&Store_Code=ii
only dfference is that one TE37 is just as much as my whole set! LMAO, even my friend couldn't agree more.
The difference does not only come to forged or cast.
Wheel design, quality, weight (different casting and forging technologies, alloys used etc) all contribute to the high price difference.
There was a chart here somewhere showing as much as a 1" difference in a medium course just for the use of "better" wheels.
Wheel design, quality, weight (different casting and forging technologies, alloys used etc) all contribute to the high price difference.
There was a chart here somewhere showing as much as a 1" difference in a medium course just for the use of "better" wheels.
05-01-2011, 09:46 AM
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i drift pretty hard with my 8, and i have rotas. i have a friend with a 350z who has the TE37'S and they weigh the same and have the same quality to them.
http://www.importimageracing.com/mm5...&Store_Code=ii
only dfference is that one TE37 is just as much as my whole set! LMAO, even my friend couldn't agree more.
http://www.importimageracing.com/mm5...&Store_Code=ii
only dfference is that one TE37 is just as much as my whole set! LMAO, even my friend couldn't agree more.
There's a difference of 1kg between the 2 18x8 models. Volks are forged and Rotas are cast.
If you don't have the money to afford real wheels just don't overtalk the cheap replicas you're using. They will never have the same quality, stiffness and overal performance level of the expensive counterpart.
This may be interesting to watch: http://insidekami.com/2011/03/welcom...plica-vs-real/
05-01-2011, 09:57 AM
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Where's the performance aspect of a wheel in drifting? Did you weight them both?
There's a difference of 1kg between the 2 18x8 models. Volks are forged and Rotas are cast.
If you don't have the money to afford real wheels just don't overtalk the cheap replicas you're using. They will never have the same quality, stiffness and overal performance level of the expensive counterpart.
This may be interesting to watch: http://insidekami.com/2011/03/welcom...plica-vs-real/
There's a difference of 1kg between the 2 18x8 models. Volks are forged and Rotas are cast.
If you don't have the money to afford real wheels just don't overtalk the cheap replicas you're using. They will never have the same quality, stiffness and overal performance level of the expensive counterpart.
This may be interesting to watch: http://insidekami.com/2011/03/welcom...plica-vs-real/
HAHAHA, get a grip.
No one is overtalking their wheels. But you need to understand that people buy what does the job.
sarcasm/
How about you put your money where your mouth is and buy a real car. I mean, seriously an RX8 as a sports car? You should feel like a cheap guy from the ghetto. Why dont you save up like a REAL man and buy a Porsche or a Lambo. I mean dont overtalk your cheap excuse for a sports car... right? right?
/sarcasm
Replica Cast wheels do a great job for the price. If you compete at a level where EVERYTHING COUNTS and have the sponsors and money to back it up, then buy all means, spend the money to WIN.
But goals are different for everyone and price is a factor in the journey. Whats the point in paying 4000$ for wheels if you cant afford the entry fees afterwards?
I'm just fed up of people being arrogant about wheels of all things... phaw!
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05-01-2011, 10:06 AM
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Real wheels?
HAHAHA, get a grip.
No one is overtalking their wheels. But you need to understand that people buy what does the job.
How about you put your money where your mouth is and buy a real car. I mean, seriously an RX8 as a sports car? You should feel like a cheap guy from the ghetto. Why dont you save up like a REAL man and buy a Porsche or a Lambo. I mean dont overtalk your cheap excuse for a sports car... right? right?
Replica Cast wheels do a great job for the price. If you compete at a level where EVERYTHING COUNTS and have the sponsors and money to back it up, then buy all means, spend the money to WIN.
But goals are different for everyone and price is a factor in the journey. Whats the point in paying 4000$ for wheels if you can afford the entry fees afterwards?
I'm just fed up of people being arrogant about wheels of all things... phaw!
HAHAHA, get a grip.
No one is overtalking their wheels. But you need to understand that people buy what does the job.
How about you put your money where your mouth is and buy a real car. I mean, seriously an RX8 as a sports car? You should feel like a cheap guy from the ghetto. Why dont you save up like a REAL man and buy a Porsche or a Lambo. I mean dont overtalk your cheap excuse for a sports car... right? right?
Replica Cast wheels do a great job for the price. If you compete at a level where EVERYTHING COUNTS and have the sponsors and money to back it up, then buy all means, spend the money to WIN.
But goals are different for everyone and price is a factor in the journey. Whats the point in paying 4000$ for wheels if you can afford the entry fees afterwards?
I'm just fed up of people being arrogant about wheels of all things... phaw!
Wanna know if I put my money where my mouth is?
less than 320 models produced like this, only 230 or so are still going.
05-01-2011, 10:11 AM
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Whooosh!!!
The point flew right above your head!
I see that you are one of ... those people.
Because you can afford to spend to your hearts content everyone should.
p.s. I'll fix my post so people know I'm being sarcastic, though it should have been obvious.
The point flew right above your head!
I see that you are one of ... those people.
Because you can afford to spend to your hearts content everyone should.
p.s. I'll fix my post so people know I'm being sarcastic, though it should have been obvious.
05-01-2011, 10:16 AM
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Nope, i'm not one of "those" people...
I just gave my worst in explaining myself lol.
Saying that Rotas and Volk are the same, except for the price, is plainly stupid. At First i just told to the OP to check the real deal because that's what I would buy given my needs.
If somebody is honest and says "All I need are wheels to go to work and the occasional backyard drifting" i won't argue, what gets me mad is when people start saying that replica wheels have the same characteristics of their forged counterparts... -4kg for 4 wheels means an easy 1.2secs off of a 2min track...
Again, the rx8 is nothing more than a disposable track toy for me so that's why i put performance first and price last when chosing products. It's a matter of priorities I guess.
Anyway, please forgive my rudeness
I just gave my worst in explaining myself lol.
Saying that Rotas and Volk are the same, except for the price, is plainly stupid. At First i just told to the OP to check the real deal because that's what I would buy given my needs.
If somebody is honest and says "All I need are wheels to go to work and the occasional backyard drifting" i won't argue, what gets me mad is when people start saying that replica wheels have the same characteristics of their forged counterparts... -4kg for 4 wheels means an easy 1.2secs off of a 2min track...
Again, the rx8 is nothing more than a disposable track toy for me so that's why i put performance first and price last when chosing products. It's a matter of priorities I guess.
Anyway, please forgive my rudeness
05-01-2011, 10:31 AM
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there was a race team that used rotas....cant remember which team it was but their 8 was sporting rotas.
Either way it all comes down to cost and yes the 3-4k "real"wheels will always be better than the cheaper knock offs and for someone with a somewhat limited income, such as myself, will find it ridiculous to pay that much for rims. Since most people dont track or use the car to its full potential and do not have an unlimited income then knock offs or cheaper brands such as enkie are a better more realistic choice.
you can talk up your trailer home all you want and it may be great and good for what you can afford and for what you need it for but that doesnt mean that the trailer home is "better" than a house, in terms of overall quality, longevity, and even resale value.
Either way it all comes down to cost and yes the 3-4k "real"wheels will always be better than the cheaper knock offs and for someone with a somewhat limited income, such as myself, will find it ridiculous to pay that much for rims. Since most people dont track or use the car to its full potential and do not have an unlimited income then knock offs or cheaper brands such as enkie are a better more realistic choice.
you can talk up your trailer home all you want and it may be great and good for what you can afford and for what you need it for but that doesnt mean that the trailer home is "better" than a house, in terms of overall quality, longevity, and even resale value.
05-01-2011, 11:41 AM
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fixed type wheels / tyres are often used in race cars as the race series they are in will often have a control set of wheels and tyres which all competitors must use.
05-01-2011, 12:46 PM
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you really sound like an arrogant ***, i don't track my 8 due to money restriction, and because i don't have a track to go to. if my plans were to track my car i would have chosen the RPF1'S, but since i don't track it; my ROTAS are fine. please go on the evo forums and wrx forums and read up on em. they Beat the hell on those wheels, and in the end they see no cracks or fatigue in the wheels, not a replicas are crap my friend.
plus the difference in weight is very, but i mean very minimal; and quality? well we would never until we track and abuse the wheels.
plus the difference in weight is very, but i mean very minimal; and quality? well we would never until we track and abuse the wheels.
Nope, i'm not one of "those" people...
I just gave my worst in explaining myself lol.
Saying that Rotas and Volk are the same, except for the price, is plainly stupid. At First i just told to the OP to check the real deal because that's what I would buy given my needs.
If somebody is honest and says "All I need are wheels to go to work and the occasional backyard drifting" i won't argue, what gets me mad is when people start saying that replica wheels have the same characteristics of their forged counterparts... -4kg for 4 wheels means an easy 1.2secs off of a 2min track...
Again, the rx8 is nothing more than a disposable track toy for me so that's why i put performance first and price last when chosing products. It's a matter of priorities I guess.
Anyway, please forgive my rudeness
I just gave my worst in explaining myself lol.
Saying that Rotas and Volk are the same, except for the price, is plainly stupid. At First i just told to the OP to check the real deal because that's what I would buy given my needs.
If somebody is honest and says "All I need are wheels to go to work and the occasional backyard drifting" i won't argue, what gets me mad is when people start saying that replica wheels have the same characteristics of their forged counterparts... -4kg for 4 wheels means an easy 1.2secs off of a 2min track...
Again, the rx8 is nothing more than a disposable track toy for me so that's why i put performance first and price last when chosing products. It's a matter of priorities I guess.
Anyway, please forgive my rudeness
05-01-2011, 12:54 PM
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Lol.
I have personally seen Rotas deforming and cracking after running over kerbs. Actually a friend of mine totalled his car and nearly died in a crash for that reason about a year ago.
1kg of difference is huge when talking about wheels, the possibility of one wheel deforming or cracking is another point to discuss.
Since there are real wheel manufacturers that follow higher quality standards than the philippines if you really have to go cheap buy a set of Rpf-1s. I personally run cast wheels on my car since i may need replacements. They are not rotas though.
I have personally seen Rotas deforming and cracking after running over kerbs. Actually a friend of mine totalled his car and nearly died in a crash for that reason about a year ago.
1kg of difference is huge when talking about wheels, the possibility of one wheel deforming or cracking is another point to discuss.
Since there are real wheel manufacturers that follow higher quality standards than the philippines if you really have to go cheap buy a set of Rpf-1s. I personally run cast wheels on my car since i may need replacements. They are not rotas though.
05-01-2011, 01:04 PM
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those rpf1's are a beauty
Lol.
I have personally seen Rotas deforming and cracking after running over kerbs. Actually a friend of mine totalled his car and nearly died in a crash for that reason about a year ago.
1kg of difference is huge when talking about wheels, the possibility of one wheel deforming or cracking is another point to discuss.
Since there are real wheel manufacturers that follow higher quality standards than the philippines if you really have to go cheap buy a set of Rpf-1s. I personally run cast wheels on my car since i may need replacements. They are not rotas though.
I have personally seen Rotas deforming and cracking after running over kerbs. Actually a friend of mine totalled his car and nearly died in a crash for that reason about a year ago.
1kg of difference is huge when talking about wheels, the possibility of one wheel deforming or cracking is another point to discuss.
Since there are real wheel manufacturers that follow higher quality standards than the philippines if you really have to go cheap buy a set of Rpf-1s. I personally run cast wheels on my car since i may need replacements. They are not rotas though.
05-08-2011, 10:13 PM
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Rotas have to pass the same JWL safety tests as Works, Volks etc. Yes they are lighter and stronger than Rotas but to act like it's a life or death desicion is a bit extreme. If you run ANY wheel into a curb, it's going to bend. Don't act like forged means it's impervious to the hazards of the road.
