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Old 03-25-2005, 06:30 AM
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racingbeat update...

well i got this in my email and didnt see anyone else post it so yah

Mazda Performance Specialists For Over 34 YearsMarch 24, 2005




RX-8 Product Update
Spring is here and things are really starting to heat up! Work continues on several
new items, while several other exciting projects are now completed. Read on for more
information
Racing Beat Body Kit
We are excited to announce the introduction of the Racing Beat body kit for the
2004-2005 RX-8. Designed in Japan under the guidance of Racing Beat, this modestly
styled body kit imparts an aggressive new look to the RX-8. From the Nose Kit, Side
Skirts, Bumper Fairings, to the Rear Wing, this kit looks great on any RX-8!

All components are available separately, or as a package set. As an introductory
promotion, we will be offering a 10% discount on the purchase of the complete
package!
For product photos & package pricing, follow this link...
REVi Air Intake Kit
Yes, we know... this project has seemed to take forever to complete! We finally have
some good news; this kit is nearing completion and will be available in
approximately 2 weeks. Although this process took a bit longer than expected due to
some unique challenges with several suppliers, we are very pleased with the
resulting product.
Here are some details of the REVi Air Intake Kit. The Variable Fresh Air Duct (VFAD)
located under the nose is not required and is removed prior to the installation of
our intake kit. The custom-designed K&N filter element is completely encased in a
sound-deadening enclosure to reduce intake noise to a tolerable level. Extending
into the air filter element is a tuned-length air horn that directs air past the
Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor. The Racing Beat design retains one of the OEM intake
duct screens in order to reduce turbulence across the MAF sensor in order to
maintain "smooth" idle characteristics.
Unlike several of the available intake kits on the market, the Racing Beat REVi Air
Intake Kit provides measurable performance improvements, a tolerable sound level
output, non-compromised idle characteristics, and true "cold air" benefits. Watch
for news of our "ram-air" duct that will transform this system into the ultimate
"cold-air" intake system for the RX-8! (Available Summer 2005)

Pricing and availability will be posted on the site by March 31, 2005.
Clutch Components
A quick review of our available clutch components indicated that several 1993-95
RX-7 clutch components we offer are compatible with the RX-8 application. We have
updated the parts descriptions and now offer these components for the RX-8:
Sport/Strip Heavy Duty Clutch Disc
Sport/Race Clutch Disc (6-puck)
Race Disc (6-puck)
Street/Strip Pressure Plate
RX-8 Lightweight Aluminum Flywheel
Racing Beat Exclusive!
Metering Oil Pump Modification
Racing Beat offers a service to increase the oil flow capacity of the RX-8 metering
oil pump for use in turbocharged or supercharged engine applications. Adequate oil
supply to the engine is critical, especially with the higher demands of a forced
induction application. We will modify your stock MOP to produce 31% greater oil flow
at higher RPM's, follow this link for more information and pricing....
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I for one will wait for one of the guinea pigs here to buy the RB intake before I trust their claims!
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Originally Posted by Peakster
I for one will wait for one of the guinea pigs here to buy the RB intake before I trust their claims!

'Measurable gains' is not a very high level of claim to prove.


.5hp is 'measurable'

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I was very pleased with their exhaust. None of the exhaust companies produced anything exciting with regards to performance increase, so buyers were left making decisions between a company namebrand, the styling, and/or the sound. I felt the Racing Beat exhaust provided the styling and sound that I wanted. Pricing was competitive.

I think the same will go for intakes. Looking at the available products reveals the same dilemna, not much of a performance increase. So, you are left making a decision on whether you want a name brand (for those of you who likes to put decals on your door panels ), one that is "loud", or something more subtle. I've seen many people selling their K&N typhoon systems because they get tired of the noise it creates...others really like it. I've heard the SR motorsports intake..it sounds great, and the styling is great. I was really considering the SR intake in red (now that it is available)...but am waiting to see the styling of the Racing Beat. Pricing is another factor I'm waiting on....the K&N is the cheapest of the bunch right now.....with SR and HKS being a little more pricey. I'm wondering where Racing Beat will fall.....
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Racing Beat will prolly be in the K&N range... doubt it could reach the 400+ range of the HKS.

Part of the reason I didn't post the e-mail was that it didn't say anything new we haven't heard about... no pricing, no data, nothing. And the other reason being that I thought a bunch of people that like RB stuff already got their e-mail.
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Originally Posted by Peakster
I for one will wait for one of the guinea pigs here to buy the RB intake before I trust their claims!
Racing Beat doesn't make claims. They make results. They have proven themselves in the rotary world for over 30 years and everything they make works exactly as advertised. Other companines make claims and are proven wrong everyday. No one does near the amount of research and development as Racing Beat. If they did, we wouldn't see so many generic copycat products out there that all do nothing.
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Originally Posted by Outlaws eXtreme
Racing Beat will prolly be in the K&N range... doubt it could reach the 400+ range of the HKS.

Part of the reason I didn't post the e-mail was that it didn't say anything new we haven't heard about... no pricing, no data, nothing. And the other reason being that I thought a bunch of people that like RB stuff already got their e-mail.
I have been checking the web site weekly to see if there are any updates on the intake..but it seems to have the same update from 1/05. Sounds like I need to get on their mailing list as the emails sound more updated...
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
Racing Beat doesn't make claims. They make results. They have proven themselves in the rotary world for over 30 years and everything they make works exactly as advertised. Other companines make claims and are proven wrong everyday. No one does near the amount of research and development as Racing Beat. If they did, we wouldn't see so many generic copycat products out there that all do nothing.
While very true. the fact that they don't say what their results are, leads me to believe that the results are not going to be very significant. Which is what I expect given the nature of the stock intake system. Since I have no intention of purchasing an aftermarket intake in the near future, independent results verification would interest me. If people buy it and show worthwhile gains, I may change my mind.
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Over the past few years I have purchased several Racingbeat products - both for the Miata and now for my 8. They produce quality products, have great customer service, and have more than proven themselves to me. I, for one, will purchase the intake, and enjoy it until at lease the summer of 06, when I hope a quality, proven supercharger will be available. I have no doubt that selling the intake at that point will be easy to do.
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Originally Posted by therm8
While very true. the fact that they don't say what their results are, leads me to believe that the results are not going to be very significant. Which is what I expect given the nature of the stock intake system. Since I have no intention of purchasing an aftermarket intake in the near future, independent results verification would interest me. If people buy it and show worthwhile gains, I may change my mind.
Why should they produce results when it isn't even on the market yet? Who do you think they are, everyone else? Do you think they want to mess up like K&N? They'll tell you what it does when it is available. If they keep delaying the project because they keep improving it, there isn't much sense it telling you a number when it changes is there? How are you going to get independent test results from a product that hasn't been released yet? Get realistic.
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hey now, i'm just saying that I'm not buying it as soon as it hits the market. and when it does hit the market, there will be plenty of independent verification of whatever results they get, to possibly change my mind. I still don't expect fantastic horsepower gains, not to justify 2 or 300 dollars (or whatever it's going to cost). But if people show differently, I'll eat my socks and open my wallet. I'm not bashing RB in any way. They're a top quality company in a world saturated with those out to make a quick buck.
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Originally Posted by Outlaws eXtreme
Part of the reason I didn't post the e-mail was that it didn't say anything new we haven't heard about... no pricing, no data, nothing. And the other reason being that I thought a bunch of people that like RB stuff already got their e-mail.
yah i guess its not THAT postworthy but i just thought that people would want the "official" word since im guessing most people arent on the mailing list.
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Just a few more days. I hope this latest promise is kept. I'm anxious to get this intake.
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Originally Posted by dmp
'Measurable gains' is not a very high level of claim to prove.


.5hp is 'measurable'


0.5 HP is not measureable. It falls well under the statistical variablity of the measurement device (the dyno). These guys were honest about the modest gains from their exhaust. I doubt they would say that anything less than 3.5HP was measureable. I suppose time will tell, though. I could be eating crow! :p

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