tell em about it...after i found that price i stoped looking into it...way to high for my blood.

Probably all could afford that price, but why would we pay that price if it's not any better
then the REVI, we can use the extra money on something else.

like saving for a turbo......or you can get nitrous for the difference.

I'm not saying the re-amemiya intake is value for money; I was just pointing out RB seems to have left out the last part of the equation. maybe they will do a duct later.

untill then I reckon the RB intake and the odula duct would be a great combination for the full performance benefit. then again the RB intake + the odula pipe probably cost similar to the Re-amemiya to start with.

Guys,
I knew I had seen that type filter before. Weapon r Secret filter also has a velocity stack built in it. Now its not the entire package like RB's and just the filter is over $100. I just remembered that there was another filter(only) with the built in velocity stack. No issue with RB being the best package for us out there.
OD

Hey Rotarenvy, I'am glad you brought up the fact that REVI is very close to RE-Amemiya intake. It would be nice to know if one out performs the other, then at that time we can put a real value on these ...

Yes, you silly girl you can have it for your auto 8.

You will be surprised by the increase at the low end.

Ah....... didn't mention this before, but if you don't like a little noise a full throttle never mod your car.

Opinions are like assholes ...everyones got one...
So lets see the results already RB!
I am behind Rb 110%btw Have been for some time just hope they make the ram intake addition availably for the type 1 nose kit I just bought : /

On a seperate note anyone want to adopt an Army soldier to do horrible rotory testing on? I would love to be a guenie pig!!! :D

I doubt you will ever see a good comparison of the RB and the re-amamiya intakes. just like you rarely see a bad review after someone has spent X hundreds dollars on something that decreases performance.

I doubt I will ever buy ether of these intakes as they use a K&N filter. On my last car I didn't notice any gain with a K&N nor did think it was doing a good job stopping dirt entering the engine. if you could adapt a foam filter to them then I would buy one as I have see great dirt stopping power from a foam filter.

Thanks for answering that w/o a "should have got manual" answer, I was also wondering as their website specifies MT, if it really is ok for both they might lose out on some potential customers (like it matters, everyone and their dog wants one anyway) since they specify MT. I'm going to get one someday, along with an exhaust. ;) I had held off on doing anything to my car but now that it's been hailed on I might as well have fun with it :)

Judging by the description of how well the RB intake works I guess my R.E. intake is working just as well too since mine reacted with the engine in precisely the same way. I modified it by cutting the intake pipe down a bit, building a velocity stack for it, and replacing the K+N with a Blitz SUS steel mesh filter. The intake is just as quiet as stock until WOT above 4K. Besides, I would hate to drill holes in the RB box just to mount my nitrous module on the back like I did with the RE box.

CRH

I drove Brillo's car today with the RB intake... It is quiet as stock until you get on it, the throttle responce seams better. I want one... Group Buy anyone...

i ono if you should install it since the website says for manual transmissions only :/ you would pay 320 dollars even if it made you lose hp or gave u a worse idle? i say play it safe until official word from racingbeat but thats just my opinion.

hell yes, group buy group buy :D

charles can you post some pics of your modified intake?

lol it's so true... I still consider myself a "kid" at 28 hahahahaha :D

Well I have seen with my own eyes this intake. The car did not have a bad idle, it idles the same as my car without the intake. Everything I have seen coming from RB has been quality workmanship. I don't think they would pull a K&N and jepardize their reputation in the Rotary world.

Just my 2 cents

There are a bunch of pics I posted from my nitrous thread and they have the R.E. intake featured in it. I currently have three problems. 1) I have no digital camera with which to take more pictures. 2) I have no scanner to post the analog photos I could take with my other camera. 3) I have no computer skills, whatsoever, to know how to save the photo files and post them. That's what I get for relying on a girlfriend to do it for me. Now that she's moved out I am totally neutered, technically speaking.:) Maybe I'll ask my kids to do my secretarial work from now on.

Even so, the mods I have made would require me to take apart the system to show you what I have done. It would be easier to just note that I cut about an inch off of the pipe supplied by R.E. and home-made an adapter to fit the SUS 4.5" filter on the 3.5" inlet pipe. In making the filter fit I discovered that the "funnel" created by the adapter was THE KEY in getting the car to run right. I also experimented with making my own screen to install on the factory R.E. set up and that helped enormously, too. The RX-8 MAF sensor hates turbulence and that's what both the screens and radius horn/velocity stack eliminate. That's why RB has a horn on their piece, too. Between the radius horn I made and the SUS being steel screen I have the turbulence well under control. There is a local company who are supposed to be making aluminum adapters patterned after my own adapter so I'll call them to see if they are done. BTW, the filter base and adapter are quite similar to that which RB has done. Hmmm...... No wonder why mine works so well.

IMO, that's what we are paying for with the better intake system; a company that is willing to spend the time eliminating turbulence will be the one whose product is worth buying. It is the turbulence that makes all that noise and causes all of the problems. As far as the noise my intake makes, or not, ask the guys from Atlanta(Olddragger, legokcen, RXeighter, silverEIGHT) who took rides in my car to see what nitrous is all about. Not one complained about intake howling and we have the runs on video.

CRH

I can witness to that. His intake is 1st rate, course I wasnt looking at the guts of it. I was drooling over the nos! he has a sweet car and it pulls somewhat like a muscle car. I still swear he had chassis lift in 1st and 2nd gear!
olddragger

I do not get how you can say that because you bought your car (august 2004 im assuming is when you bought it) well before mazda had poster their horsepower issues. So you personally did not get cheated and mazda was great about it they offered free maintence for life or a complete buy back at the price you paid. So yah i do not really get what you are trying to prove either!

As far as I can see, RB has been totally honest about their gains regarding their products. Even while the intake was in development, they were totally up front about what it would and wouldn't do. Sure they could lie, but it would be out of character considering that they seem bent on telling the truth.

I ordered my RB intake on Friday. I have faith that it's a good product from a good company. I am not expecting huge gains. rather a product that has been specifically designed for our cars.

group buy!

^i second that...group buy group buy:D

I talked with RB this morning, and was told that the first run of 30 intakes is almost gone...

I ordered mine as well this morning... seem to be selling quickly.

I placed my order first thing today so I hope that I'm in on the frist run !!!

I just noticed an excellent explanation of the intake on RB's website. Look for the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) under the intake section.

they said i could pick mine up on wedsnday or thursday at the latest (waiting on some racingbeat emblems) GAHH CANT WAIT :D

http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm
the link to the faq

Actually I bought the car before I registered but still after the buy back....I was going to buy the car regardless because I had 3 rx7's in the past and my heart is a rotor so I was just disappointed but still bought the car....All I ment is that you cant believe anything until proof is provided with any claim........ :rolleyes:

racing beat's short ram in summer of 2005
 

when racing beat comes out with the short ram this summer... how much better is that gonna be??

cold air extension you mean? :)

yes! :D

this is gonna sound ignorant on ym part but i'm not a real technical person....anyhow whats the difference between the RB intake they just produced and a CAI...I've read in previous posts they are going to make some short ram this summer and i'm just curious as to what is the difference between them all compared to racing beat's intake. Thanks and please don't bash on me for not knowing...just tryin to learn a thing or two.
thanks-steve

I read all the info on the intake, but RB doesnt state the horsepower gain.


How come?

Well for one, RB put alot of effort into maintaining/changing the resonance tuning of the intake. An airbox or some equivalent is vital to this. Most "CAIs" and "SRIs" do away with the airbox altogether and completely disregard the resonance tuning of the rest of the intake tract. Try a Google for "Helmholtz tuning" or "Helmholtz resonance," lots of good stuff out there.

Hey thanks alot man, I appreciate the info!

So does the intake help or hurt gas mileage?

both- free er flowing intake should help gas milage but whenit sounds like this you spend more time with your foot in it and that hurst gas milage

SO when they run out of there first 30 you think it will take long to get more?

Called this morning and ordered mine. They said they'd sold 29 already so I guess I got the 30th one. The guy I talked to said everything is there except they are waiting on the Racing Beat badges that fit on the top. Soon as those arrive they'll be shipping. Since I live about 45 minutes away I'm picking mine up the moment they call. He said the intakes have been selling fast and RB has already ordered a second production run, so I don't imagine it would be all that much longer before more are ready. They are delivering on a first-come-first-serve basis so if you want one get your order in soon.

I can't wait to get mine! I already have the RB exhaust and I had a feeling the combo would be a very nice improvement, and so far those who've tested that combo are confirming that. For those of you concerned about the performance, quality or reliability of RB's products....have no fear. I've been down there several times and toured the factory, talked with both Jim Langer and Jim Mederer and these guys are first class. They know what they are doing and are very honest about it. They won't hesitate to take you on a tour and let you see and talk to the guys in the factory. They're very up-front about what they're doing, what's involved and what to expect from it. If you ever get to talk to either of them they are not the slick, marketing-hype type of guys. They are hands-on "actually do the work and know what they're talking about" kind. They don't produce cheap junk either; their products are extremely solid, well-made and work as advertised. They do it right and if that takes more time and costs a bit more on the final product, so be it. Personally I wouldn't have it any other way.

conversation in another thread that i thought could bear repeating here:

my reply

two questions,
1-will mazda void a warranty with this mod?
2-Justice, Our Foundation, :confused:

1) Mazda will not void your warrarenty for the air intake

Well, for what its worth, there *were* a number of people (of the more respected variety) who were thinking the VFAD was tuning for power at different points in the rev range and that removing it or wiring it open would hurt power lower in the revs. I don't think anyone every proved that with a dyno though.

jds

will they release any dyno sheets for this intake???

Here is an email response I got from them regarding the application to the automatic tranny and horsepower claims.

"We have yet to take a look at the auto version, we need to evaluate one to determine the differences between the models. Until then, we can only make a fitting recommendation for the manual cars. On the higher power engines, we are seeing 3-6 HP gains, with most of this at the top end." and

" I am working on preparing the performance data for display on the website. Our dyno computer provides numerical data, not the graphical style that you normally associate with a Dyno Jet chassis dyno."

I ran some tests (not on a dyno) on the stock intake and did find a difference leaving the VFAD open full time. The car is a little more sluggish at lower rpms and throttle levels. With the VFAD closed full time the car obviously makes less top end. the Racing Beat system doesn't seem to suffer these problems even though the VFAD duct isn't there. I don't know why but it's true.

Complete 360 degree horn inlet, no baffles, higher flowing filter media, etc.. maybe?

more respected than me?!?!;) its okay i was one of them but now i have a better undrestanding.

it would hurt if you left the stock air box in or didnt have some way of increasing the flow while retaining maf stability. see without the VFAD the car would make less power- with the stock air box. but the stock airbox / intake has some compromises to fitler choice/loudness etc. including the bell radius and a smaller air inlet at the front of the airbox. the racing beat airbox is designed to eliminate those compromises while still limiting the noise increase.