hmm... $25 bucks it's not bad...

It might be worth to try it out...

Yea even if he doesnt give the money back its no big loss.
I do know these do work on some cars. Ive used it before and alot of the honda people use them w/o a probelm. Just need to test it on a rx8 now.


I'd test it but my car has 3k miles on it. Im not gonna swap out the cat yet.

I'm working on getting mine. Trying to see if one of the vendors here can give me a better deal on it then Racing Beat, if not I'll order it today.

But it's true. Racing Beat exhaust components are ALWAYS heavy in comparison to other aftermarket exhausts, and even sometimes stock ones.

I bought it based on that it was the quietest of the ones I could afford... :-)

Quieter and cheaper than the OEM one that came with your car? ;)


Sorry, I couldn't resist.

well, with the big tips and all...

but I never stopped to look at it like that...

Lighter isn't always better! It would be desirable to provide less weight with quality, good sound and durability but it isn't always possible to provide all of these things without excessive pricing.

so,anybody have it with RB exhaust? i wonder how it sound like :rolleyes:

Well as far as the midpipe goes.... there's not a whole lot of difference between sound when its STRAIGHT PIPE. Other, lighter and still durable, midpipes that weigh LESS and are also straight through would sound the exact same.

so whats the difference between this hollow tube and the others?

nothing

I have a theory on why they're offering it now. I think they'll be releasing a more aggressive ecu flash that doesn't worry about cat protection. If they offer their own midpipe then it's more likely a customer without a midpipe will order one and the aggressive flash at the same time from the same place. All about marketing in my opinion. :)

My point exactly.

Although I will give them credit for putting a hanger on it.

Everyone serious about keeping their 8, and looking for a solution for power and better gas mileage, should think about a pipe. You will have both setups. I bought a midpipe over 6 months ago to rule out a CAT issue. Figured I could put it back on when I need to. No need. NO CEL. NO ODOR. NOT LOUD. NO DRONE. It may smoke, if you flooded it prior. If you did not let it warm up before shut down. There will be a noticable power increase, depending on your current CAT condition. Mine was bad, so in theory it was more than a 8HP gain. I have the stock exhaust on with Tips extended out past bumper at 3.5 inches. I bet money it would pass inspection. There is another thread I read to support that. Someone passed with a midpipe.

The CAT on this car faces demise due to the nature of the car. To run properly, the car needs to warm up to temp for ECU reasons. Until the temp gauge moves to the normal point, it runs rich. Correct me if I am wrong, but the EGT at idle is easily 800. During the warm up the CAT is basicly an afterburner in reverse. They should have installed a toaster oven. In six months that chrome pipe has turned black. Tell me that aint some heat. All that heat conducts back up into the header and to all the other parts. Getting that heat away has got to add life to the engine.

sarcasm, anyone? :bootyshak

With the stock catback, it's not too loud and there isn't much in the way of droning, but if you have an aftermarket catback, it will be excessive in both. Maybe it'll be better with the RB since theirs isn't as loud.

I don't know how you miss the odor unless you're always upwind from it...


It wouldn't pass visual inspection, and it wouldn't pass if they tested what's coming out of the exhaust. So I wouldn't count on it.


I notice it running really rich for a few seconds (11 afr), then it leans till it's 14-16 afr shortly after. We're talking 10 seconds or so, not minutes.

800 degrees sounds about right, when you're moving it's usually 1500-1700, and drops to ~1200 at stop lights.

Does anyone have any real experience and real numbers to share?

My interest is in mileage - is there a difference and if so how much?

Other then the birds falling from the trees, I'm not too worrried about the aftereffects of running catless.

Interesting theory. I hope it happens.

My response wasn't about the midpipe in particular, it was to your comment about their exhaust systems. Most quality exhausts for rotaries throughout the years have been heavier than the lower quality pieces. Again, I agree that it's desirable to have it lighter also. I think Racing Beat has done a decent job throughout the years of judging their priorities in most items they have ever brought to market.

ordered mine... should be here by the end of this week. I'll post a sound clip. As far as the cel, I'm thinking of trying the www.o2sim.com simulator and see how that goes... Has anyone had any luck with any of these simulators?

You forget .......... If you want the pipe to last 200,000 miles or more through salt and winter conditions you need a good prosuct likes theirs.

Unfortunately the price for this is the weight of the system.

Most people experience salt and snow unlees your in So. Calf. or Soth of the Mason Dixon line.

And I've heard in those once a yeear to three times a year snow conditions they also have a tendancy to use salt.

Update:

Thanks to ernesto UPS didn't deliver today... so I'll have to wait until ernesto goes away and ups starts delivering again...

they dont use salt here in oregon

LOL - that blasted missing hanger story I posted back in the old days! :hahano:

So if you are running a mid-pipe what do you do when you go for emmisions testing take it off? That sounds like a PITA.