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Only thing about the 4.77 is that it is already available. I'd prefer to ask Pettit to make things off our collective wish list that someone isn't already doing.
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i am in agreeance with the two pod on the steering colum liek the e-pods. also i agree with NA ecus reflash. and btw i contacted Rmagic and they said they COULD do their upgrade to my ecu but personally i don;t wanna send it to japan and not have a car for....ever
hmmm
how bout a nice looking leather shift ****,
ah descently priced set of oem sized slotted rotors
hmmm
how bout a nice looking leather shift ****,
ah descently priced set of oem sized slotted rotors
#55
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I like the ida of looking at Gauge Pods.....
a twin pod for an oil pressure and temperature guages would be good (and sensors)
OR even cooler, a way to digidisplay the readouts of various gauge sensors onto the built in SATNAV centre screen and switch between SATNAV and Gauge readouts...
That cant be too impossible can it? and then its ultra stealth.....
a twin pod for an oil pressure and temperature guages would be good (and sensors)
OR even cooler, a way to digidisplay the readouts of various gauge sensors onto the built in SATNAV centre screen and switch between SATNAV and Gauge readouts...
That cant be too impossible can it? and then its ultra stealth.....
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
Only thing about the 4.77 is that it is already available. I'd prefer to ask Pettit to make things off our collective wish list that someone isn't already doing.
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Seems to me that the top three most important modifications are
1. 4.777 final drive
2. Stronger 6spd gearset
3. Ignition (Ignition module and new coils)
Thats what seems yo be the best bet so far!
Any other ideas?
1. 4.777 final drive
2. Stronger 6spd gearset
3. Ignition (Ignition module and new coils)
Thats what seems yo be the best bet so far!
Any other ideas?
#58
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As far as strengthing the tranny, can't you just cryo treat your gears?
I still think the best things Pettit can do that would be relatively simple to develope and have alot of sales potential would be:
1. Strong ignition coils
2. Better engine mounts
3. Less expensive gauge pods
all of these would be affordable (less than $500) and greatly help out the growing FI crowd.
Nothing against the tranny and gearing folks, but the true market for that stuff is rather small. Not to mention, its not as easy to change rear end ratio's as just cracking the diff open and swaping one part.
I still think the best things Pettit can do that would be relatively simple to develope and have alot of sales potential would be:
1. Strong ignition coils
2. Better engine mounts
3. Less expensive gauge pods
all of these would be affordable (less than $500) and greatly help out the growing FI crowd.
Nothing against the tranny and gearing folks, but the true market for that stuff is rather small. Not to mention, its not as easy to change rear end ratio's as just cracking the diff open and swaping one part.
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I think the market for strengthening the transmissions will grow pretty rapidly once the warranties begin to expire. Based on the ages of the cars I think that's coming just around the corner. And I think it would be more than just cryo treating the gears, maybe we'd need stronger synchros, the Puerto Ricans have mentioned needing a new input shaft, etc...
I would agree and put Ignition at the top of the list and have gauge pods close behind.
I would agree and put Ignition at the top of the list and have gauge pods close behind.
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- Hand Held ECU tuner device that lets you change A/F, timing, Redline, Idle RPM, and turn off funtion testing your cat (CEL for midpipes).
- Lower compression rotors (like 9.0:1)
- Lower compression rotors (like 9.0:1)
#65
Bummed, but bring on OU!
If you're at the point where your tranny isn't strong enough anymore, why not just do a T56 swap and get the gear ratios you want, plenty of places will do them custom.
Spending ridiculous amounts of money making the stock tranny stronger just doesn't make much sense to me.
Spending ridiculous amounts of money making the stock tranny stronger just doesn't make much sense to me.
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I'm not sure, really. What is the cost of the T56 and can it be mated to the stock driveshaft? If that's the more cost effective alternative, that works for me.
But if we're talking about just adding a new input shaft and few misc parts to get the RX-8 transmission to handle say 300lbs of torque, would that not be cheaper? I'm really not thinking of someone that needs to handle a 3 rotor, or something like a highly boosted REW.
I don't think our tranny is made of glass, but I question how long it can endure track sessions over time, or a boosted street engine over time.
But if we're talking about just adding a new input shaft and few misc parts to get the RX-8 transmission to handle say 300lbs of torque, would that not be cheaper? I'm really not thinking of someone that needs to handle a 3 rotor, or something like a highly boosted REW.
I don't think our tranny is made of glass, but I question how long it can endure track sessions over time, or a boosted street engine over time.
#67
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Originally Posted by therm8
If you're at the point where your tranny isn't strong enough anymore, why not just do a T56 swap and get the gear ratios you want, plenty of places will do them custom.
Spending ridiculous amounts of money making the stock tranny stronger just doesn't make much sense to me.
Spending ridiculous amounts of money making the stock tranny stronger just doesn't make much sense to me.
because a custom set of gears in a built tranny is cheap of course.
Not to mention maybe more people would go to that point if they could rely on the other components in the car to handle it.
Originally Posted by brillo
As far as strengthing the tranny, can't you just cryo treat your gears?
I still think the best things Pettit can do that would be relatively simple to develope and have alot of sales potential would be:
1. Strong ignition coils
2. Better engine mounts
3. Less expensive gauge pods
all of these would be affordable (less than $500) and greatly help out the growing FI crowd.
Nothing against the tranny and gearing folks, but the true market for that stuff is rather small. Not to mention, its not as easy to change rear end ratio's as just cracking the diff open and swaping one part.
I still think the best things Pettit can do that would be relatively simple to develope and have alot of sales potential would be:
1. Strong ignition coils
2. Better engine mounts
3. Less expensive gauge pods
all of these would be affordable (less than $500) and greatly help out the growing FI crowd.
Nothing against the tranny and gearing folks, but the true market for that stuff is rather small. Not to mention, its not as easy to change rear end ratio's as just cracking the diff open and swaping one part.
You could cryo treat gears but then you are starting with worn used possibly damaged or weakend components. Then you are putting them through a process that gives somewhat inconsistant results. The money you are going to spend in dropping the trans, cracking the case disasembling the gearset cryotreating and the reversing all that process you may as well start with a fresh set of components that has has been engineered better from the beginning.
As far as less expensive X part, yea to ask for less expensive thinsg is all well and nice but in all honesty why would they take the time to devlope a part and then sell it below market value. Market value is what it is...the vale a product has in the market place. If it were too expensive by and large the price would come down. And yes the part may only have cost 5$ in materials and 5$ in labor to make the part but a lot of time and expense goes into the devlopment of the part and thats usually where the most of the cost comes from. so how are you going to tell someone to make something for you and not recoup the moeny they spent devloping it?
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I don't see enough of a demand for a stronger transmission. I know many people would like one but they all want it for farily cheap and that just isn't going to happen. The people that need a stronger transmission will probably already go out of their way to get a stronger one retrofitted. There is no market for one at the price it would take to make it happen.
Since Mazmart sells a 4.10 rear end and it costs about $650, and still requires work to install it, don't expect a 4.77 to be any cheaper. If you need to pay someone else labor to install it, plan on a total bill hitting around $1000 as well as the guaranteed associated higher fuel consumption rates/costs on top of that. If you are racing your car on a track, you may need this. It too isn't terribly useful on a public road. Not saying that there isn't at least demand for it. There is more so than for a stronger tranny. For street use, I'd take a 4.10 over it anyday but that's just personal. The 4.44 it comes with is already too high and should be lowered from the factory.
Since Mazmart sells a 4.10 rear end and it costs about $650, and still requires work to install it, don't expect a 4.77 to be any cheaper. If you need to pay someone else labor to install it, plan on a total bill hitting around $1000 as well as the guaranteed associated higher fuel consumption rates/costs on top of that. If you are racing your car on a track, you may need this. It too isn't terribly useful on a public road. Not saying that there isn't at least demand for it. There is more so than for a stronger tranny. For street use, I'd take a 4.10 over it anyday but that's just personal. The 4.44 it comes with is already too high and should be lowered from the factory.
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I would also like to see more options for gauge pods. My preference is a 3 pod on the center dash like PTP's. Also, a true 3" titanium exhaust would be nice. And headers if you can find 10hp+ like Hymee's
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how ar eyou going to control these individual throttle bodies with the drive by wire throttle? you'd need a new UIM as well at least. what do you hope to accomplish by adding this complexity?
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As for the gauge pods... why not a 2 gauge pod that mounts in the ashtray location... ala RMagic (and I think Racing Beat has been mentioned as possibly working on one too)...
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I was thinking one that replaces the steering column cover, with 2 pods offset so they dont block anything.
That way you dont have to look away!
That way you dont have to look away!