AlexCisneros

Wow Savington your first post and you didn't even bother to read the thread.


Can't people read? Only a couple of responses that are relevant to the question asked.

zoom44

Just because you ask for no responses from a certain group does not mean they wont respond. for some it is almost impossible to not comment when asked not to. his response was polite and had a point. argue his point if you like but don't insult him.

AlexCisneros

Where's the insult? And why should I not ask for specific responses? If I wanted an opinion on Nitrous I would have made a thread saying "What are the pros or cons of nitrous?" Last I checked...It didn't ask for opinions.

People, Nitrous is a Power Adder. PERIOD.

I know the pros, I know the cons... Ultimately IT'S MY CHOICE. All I want is to follow a path that others with THIS car have taken successfully.

I will NOT Turbo or Supercharge the car because it will take me out of SCCA Stock class. The Car is slower than my previous car and I want something for when I just want to get a kick for the day. It really PISSES me off that I have to defend myself for not wanting to have to sift through the bullshit to find the answers I want.

BLACKWOLF

if you cant wait for a turbo, talk to some one who can fabricate the manifold and piping. people in japan are turbocharging them now-look in some of the options magazines-i have a friend who can read japanese so that helps.

Brando

I agree, I've sprayed multiple other cars with no problems both wet and dry, and they weren't $1500 computerized kits either. N20 can be safe and extremely effective. I am curious as well to see what has worked on 8's so far. Personally, I just don't have the ***** to be the guniea pig with my brand new car.

XDEEDUBBX

close this thread now pleez mod...

XDEEDUBBX

can everyone stop calling it NOOOSSSSSS.....thats a fuggin company....its Nitrous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lay off on the F&F..

AlexCisneros

Why XDEEDUBBX?

TiTaniumRX8

Sonik- thanks man

why everyone really gotta bitch about people calling nitrous "nos"? It's a company yea, but wetha people like it or not, it has become a common term. As long as you know what the person is getting at why complain? Fast and the Furious w/e... N2O, Nitrous, nos, spray, ect.

Jhouse

i like to call it The fast and delerious and 2fast 2delerious

-=Zeqs=-

I'd install nitrous on my 8...but my GF and step-dad will kick my ***, ever since what has happened to my Civic. The nitrous did what it was suppose to...it made my car damn fast...my brain didn't do what it was suppose to though, and that was to take into consideration that I didn't have a full tank of race fuel for the jetting I was suppose to be using.

Anyways...I'm sure it'll be a matter of time before nitrous somehow magically makes it's way into my 8...bound to happen since I help out at a performance tuning shop with a chassis dyno and nitrous on tap. I'll be sure to respond if and when that happens.

On a side note though...in theory the RX8 would respond rather well to the dry kits. My theory now, but educated to a degree none the less...

The reason why I think the Renesis should respond rather well, so long as the user doesn't over do it on the jetting is that the RX8, unlike the FD utilizes WIDEBAND O2's with a far more reliable air intake monitoring system. So long as both aspects worth properly, the system should adjust to climate changes rather well...or in this case, nitrous being added into the intake charge.

NskGenakuDuckie

I personally don't think you guys should be acting that way you are. I've seen far more rice on this forum than I have anywhere else so I don't know why some of you are freakin out over this guy wanting to use nitrous.

He even politely explained it stating the reason why he's opting for nitrous.

At least he didn't say NOS, and actually correctly referred to it as nitrous. On a turbo car I could see why people would flame...considering for that measily 50hp - 75hp gain you can just upgrade to a slightly bigger turbo and have permanant hp. However on your N/A cars as long as he uses it in moderation it won't harm anything. And he's on here making sure what to use.

I wish I could help but honestly I know nothing about nitrous, because I never once thought about using it. But as long as you upgrade the fuel or as somebody said use race gas you should be fine.

zoom44

The replies to his post were as follows- WTF no turbo - Savington your first post sucks. and AlexCisneros - Wow Savington your first post and you didn't even bother to read the thread.

Can't people read? ...
those are the insults i was talking about.

i didn't say you couldn't. i said that just because you asked for people to not give opinions, doesn't mean they won't and don't be surprised when they do. live with it and ignore them.

[QUOTE] you didn't need to defend yourself you could have simply done what i asked and turned the heat down. instead you chose to rant. just cool off and we'll see if you can get the answers you are looking for.

now everyone if you can't answer his questions leave it alone. if you have some ideas lets hear them, but please make them knowledged based and not just what you've heard.

-=Zeqs=-

Even on a turbo car...especially one that already has a larger turbo, nitrous can still be beneficial. If not used to help the turbo spool during launch, it can help daily drivers by cooling the intercooler. Those of you that live in hot spots like Nevada, Arizona, Los Angeles...know what I'm talking about...turbo cars run like crud in those enviornments.

I remember searching on google when the ZEX first came out as to how to install it. I was trying to find instructions for my Civic. The only step-by-step instructions I found with pictures were for an RX-7. Most things applied none-the-less. I checked back a year after I had already installed my ZEX kit and the guy had done a follow up. Said the kit still ran great on his RX-7. His TURBO RX-7...

-=Zeqs=-

http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobi...us_install.htm

One thing I just remember though...the RX-8 to my knowledge is suppose to be a returnless fuel system. Most 2000+ cars are, IE: RSX, Celica, G35, 350Z...

Incases of RETURNLESS FUEL SYSTEMS...One MUST use a wet kit if there isn't a dry kit specifically designed for your car. Universal dry kits work by injecting pressure on the fuel pressure regulator's diaphram, that in turn causes the fuel pressure to rise, thus supplying the extra fuel needed to SAFELY produce the power figures that nitrous is known for. If you don't have a FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR that works off of vaccuum because you have a returnless fuel system, then that doesn't very well work, now does it?

NskGenakuDuckie

Yes it CAN be beneficial, but not necessary. Using nitrous to spool laggy turbos and to cool intercoolers are rare cases... most people don't have t-88's on their honda civics or drive in 120 degree weather. Water injection is more popular rather than n20 btw.

Another reason to use nitrous on a turbo car from what I've seen are people that are just having difficulty going sub-12's or sub 11's after they've already maxed out on their turbos, just needing that extra umph.

But besides that spending $500-700 on a nitrous kit just to gain 50-100hp isn't worth it on a turbo car, especially since the power is only there temporarily. Gaining 50-100hp isn't hard for a turbo car, but for an N/A it's a diff story.

Reason running nitrous is especially risky on a rotory is because of it's ease of detonation i'm sure you all know. Engine knocks once and you'll hear KABOOM. Motors going from nitrous are due to the car running lean when not properly tuned, and running lean = heat &/or knock, which are two of rotory engines worse enemies. So yea you could put nitrous on an FD....but why would you want to.

Genom

Hey Alex, you might want to contact Acosta Racing. They where the first to say they had nitrous on the 8 many moons ago. Havent seen him online much but they do have a web page with some contacts.

WTF no turbo

Looking into a small wet shot this weekend since turbos look to be a long way out.Soon as i come up with something ill post results.Im going to try to avoid the shotput.Oh i didnt insult Savington i insulted his post.Dont believe i got personal did i?

AlexCisneros

Ok, somehow the thread was now hijacked... Maybe we should delete this one and try again...

I did NOT insult the guy. I also made reference to the post he made. Had I said you are an A$$ Hole... Then I could see an insult.

And since this thread was Hijacked... My previous car was a 2000 Audi S4 and the Wet Nitrous Express Kit (50HP jetting) came out of that car. Again, I like to run in SCCA Stock class so no Upgraded Turbo and that new M3 did a number on me on the turnpike..err I mean track (should've seen his face after nitrous..it was sooo small in the rear view mirror).

The Mitsu GSX I owned previous to the Audi (Drag car) had a 16G upgrade and later a T3/T4 with a 50HP shot to get it spooled faster. 1/4 racing gets old and expensive. Stock class lets you compete cheaply and it's a new track every time.

Nitrous is a Power Adder. PERIOD.
But as was said by someone else... I won't be the guineapig, this is my daily driver.

-=Zeqs=-

Alex...the wet kit you pulled out of your Audi should be pretty much all you need to get started. Most of the newer cars like the 2000+ Celica's, 2001+ Civic's, RSX's, G35's & 350Z's all have to go with the wet kit because of the returnless fuel system I mentioned earlier.

www.bottleblownracing.com

In SoCal, they do installs. When it comes to 350Z's, G35's and soon to be RX-8's, it costs about 1200 dollars for the kit, installed, and tuned. Basically you'll leave there with a setup tuned to run safely.

WTF no turbo

I got 1160 from my local tuner here so that price sounds about right.Going up today to check availiblilty and times.

-=Zeqs=-

Oh...1200 is what he charges other people...I think he'd do it for me for around 300, seeing as I already have a wet kit I could throw in there, and he gives me dyno time in exchange for doing bitch work around his shop.

TiTaniumRX8

haha, well w/e...

either way its nuthen to be so bitchy bout

WhoDiddy

runnin NX's Kit...

runnin dry untill i tap the FUEL line. spraying a 75 SHOT!

SPD-FC

I have used nitrous on all 3 of my rx7's without any problem on any of them i tend not go above a 75hp shot (wet), most of the problems come from inexperinced tuners who don't know what they doing.