WTF no turbo

New flash has hit the street.My dealer got it yesterday and i was the first to get it this morning.On one of the section changes it says a code then"to restore lost power in high rev band".I can tell you this what a difference it made. mod edit: do NOT post street racing stories on this forum.

ranger4277

I hope so. If they put a new flash sticker under your hood, could you post a photo of that too? I'm not gonna get too excited yet.. but I sure want to.

WTF no turbo

No sticker i know tech @dealer very well.I really went up there to use the lift in shop to do wheels springs and brakes.Then when i was leaving he said oh yea new flash came in.

JimW

Is this flash going to be offered to everyone, it's not the "N" flash is it?

xXcfeboXx

awwwww Shiiiiiizzzle
any write ups about it

guy321

I just got the M flash yesterday!

mysql101

I read in a car mag (sorry, I forgot the name) yesterday that had a short paragraph that mentioned that the publishers of the mag heard from reliable sources that mazda had found a way to solve the power issues of the rx-8 by modifying the ECU.

Since I don't know much about that mag, and they didn't provide details, I don't know how reliable their info is, but it does have me hoping to see my car going up to 260+ hp

Dookie_Rx-8

are u serious?If you are holy crap! Is this new flash someone with an rx-8 can just ask for

Dookie_Rx-8

oh yea anyone know whats the name of the flash

JeRKy 8 Owner

Theres lost powerin the high rev band? Since when?? Alsodo you think this willonly be for the manual or willit be available for automatic as well?

ranger4277

So when will you be at the strip next to verify the increase? You said you've done low 14s before (at cost of tranny).. how does this feel compared to before? Still linear or do you feel a kick at some point? I'm just dying for details.

EatMyBanana

I have had my 8 for a week and have a appointment for monday morn to get the m flash (for some reason they cant tell me if i do so there just going to do it again) but after reading this i will ask about the newest one. after one week and 1000 miles i have had none of the issues that are disscused on here, air is great , power is great once we bounded , no hot cup holder , no flooding . in fact i have never driven a car like this . i was told that all the rx8 on the lot where put back through service about a week before . But i will have and answer about a new flash before i leave monday. LOVE THIS CAR

BoxerGT2.5

hmmmm....I may have to pay my mazda dealer a visit... Would it be unwise to get the reflash with a midpipe and O2 Sim in place????

JeRKy 8 Owner

I thinkwe need more proof that another new flash exists thatdoes the things you claim beforewe start going back to service reps hassling them about installing some new flash all over again. I havent seen anything new added to Rosenthal Mazdas bulletin page yet

WTF no turbo

Well as far as proof dont know what to tell ya.Im just going by what the tech said.I was hoping to make it to MIR this weekend but looks like rain today.Hasseling service techs??Please.. dont they get paid?I think someone needs to get on better terms with there dealer.

olddragger

iTrader: (3)

I just got mine M flashed on 5/27. The latest available and I have the cz 1.1 The upgrade to m really helped and with all the work canzoomer is doing on the maps etc he has only broken the 14 sec barrier ONE time in the 1/4 mile (with the 1.1 unit). Now all of a sudden there is a NEW flash that gives this much boost? I hope it is but I'll believe it when I see it.
olddragger

mysql101

Also, any chance you can scan the invoice for the work done?

BoxerGT2.5

I'm still at the "L" flash....so I'm just lookin for something more current. Right now I think a hummer gets better MPG than I do. I know I know....none of these flashes are geared to help MPG, but I 'm hoping they might lean things out and indirectly help MPG.

timisw

Reading through the flash threads...

What is the easiest way to tell what level flash you are? I am taking that there is a sticker under the hood? I havent looked yet, but what is the easiest way to tell?

WTF no turbo

How am i gonna scan an invoice?It was done a saturday when service was closed.I really was just there to use the lift.I know the techs there real well.Andy the lead guy there has a 10 anniversary turbo II.Like i stated before we just hooked up to turn off tpms light.I thought i had the latest flash in "m".

JimW

It will be called the "N" as in no more flashes needed after this one?

Omicron

Yes, this is theoretically possible.

Think about it: Mazda rates the car at 238 HP, which we'll call 240 for the sake of simplicity.

Canzoomer has been making a PCM/ECU piggyback mod that does nothing more than "fix" the air/fuel and ignition timing that Mazda screwed up, and his mod realistically adds 20 HP.

240+20 = 260HP.

It would be BETTER than GREAT if Mazda really did fix things to where they should be, but I'm skeptical.

WTFnoTurbo, do you have any idea of what "flash number" this new flash is?

WTF no turbo

I called my tech today since the replys on the wheel and tire section about my tpms fix.I will try to get the codes for you on tuesday.Oh and im pretty sure this is new because he had the other 2 disc there with L and M.

EatMyBanana

my appointment is tommorow so i guess my dealer is open. i will have a answer buy the afternoon and post on this thread.

Twinturbo2800

im a newb whne it comes to these flash's...

ive had my car for about 2-3 months now... can i just walk in and get them to give me the new flash? will it cost anything?

davefzr

No it wont cost you anything and it looks like Mazda issued a statement saying that all cars must be flashed up to the latest version.

I am going to contact my dealership abou this latest flash on tuesday, but would sure love to know what it's called.. I am assuming N.. but am not sure..

I guess i'll just refer to it as the latest flash and see what the date they received it on.

Ajax

do we have any confirmation that this is an actual new flash and for real?

timisw

I have an appointment to go in on Tuesday at 1100. I will let everyone know if they have heard of the "N Flash" in Georgia.

I have had my RX8 since September 2003... What level flash do you think I am at? L? And is there anyway to tell? I want to be able to compare the difference.

Currently, my overall mileage is 17.62 over all (70 city/30 highway) with my highest being 22.1 and my lowest being 14.8mpg. I keep really good stats on it so I will be able to tell an improved efficiency difference pretty quickly.

shoptb

Sweet - please let me know. I'll be picking up my 8 next weekend, and I want to make sure that they put it on the latest flash, which up 'til now I thought was the "M". Unfortunately my car was produced right before 3/12/04, so I guess it has the "L" instead of the "M" preloaded.

Strider

Is there a guage that shows the current mpg, or is all this just calculations by the user?

SMigneco

Calculations by user.

Japan8

Well according to another post by EatMyBanana there is indeed one more new flash... https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=29979

EatMyBanana

just left mazda to have my new 8 flash updated. and YES there is a new flash as of 5/21/04. he tried to download it but could not and with the holiday no one was at mazda. so he did up date it to the newest one he had.( my car was i week old and did not have the newest one) so i have to return to get the newest newest. and yes flashs are free. also the k,l,m mines nothing to them. he showed me the computer screen and there lots of new updates. i noticed that they did contain either k,l,m but there where several under each letter. so that lead me to belive k was first with serveal updates to k then L started with lots of updates then on to M . so i belive this is still M updated.

MrWigggles

A new flash was issued 5/21/04 and only two people have heard of it?

-Mr. Wigggles

EatMyBanana

all i can say is i was there today and he turned the computer scrren around and it said new pcm update issued 5/21/04. he was not aware of it untill i told him to look.He says they only download updates every two weeks. he also said the RX8 club guys find things out before them.

timisw

Since someone was asking how I calculated my mileage.. thought you guys would like this information. Here are the number... Look at the next post for when I had it serviced (I assume the flashed it at 3000 miles)

timisw

And of the most interest is at the 3000 mileage (I had it first serviced) and at the 5000 mileage where there is a huge increase from it not running so rich! Remember this is a running average. Total Mileage to Total Gallons used over Time so any huge increase is very significant.

timisw

Also interesting is that I got my best mileage on 87 octane. Though it was 100% highway for that trip at 80mph.

MrWigggles

timisw,

Can you guess during what period of times you either had your AC running or your front windo defroster running? (both use the compressor)

Nice chart.

BTW, which stations sell 94 Octane gas?

-Mr. Wigggles

timisw

Up until now, I was stationed in PA and its been so mild out that the AC was never on. Windows would of been down after around April, but 80% of that driving was under 50mph.

I just now started using AC on the last 2 tanks since finding Augusta my home for 6 months. Probably why that 5/23/04 tank got less than 15. Along with the AC on most of the tank, I did have 4 Marines in the car for a night and we did hit 3 figures about 4 or 5 times during the night saying goodbye to 330i (she was cute but couldnt drive to keep up) and a Acura RSX.