you keep bringing that up yet you offer no data. Easy and Flashwing have verfied their IAT's via an AccessPort.


oh, and get over what section the thread is in. We can agree to disagree on that.

 

Not according to your OP....

hahaahh well I would expect no less a statement.
It excellent to see that you take perfectly valid criticism and turn it inot a convoluted personal slug fest, after all deflection is the best tactic,,,

Like I said take it or leave I didnt read that this was a protoype at all, in fact what I heard were order already being touted from the fanfair,,,

Im sure that if I didnt share constructive critiques at all that none of the forementioned thing would be realized in any shape or fashion,,,

"not a curved/bent misalingned leaning towards the back on one side, top" thats a funny and pretty ignorant way to look at it I guess you can only cut completely square cuts,,, heres what Im trying to say,,,


Damn dude no need to get all fussy about it,,, I mean really how hard would that be,,,

"Now I want you to go and play critic on all the other products that every other company makes"
I do, just last week I expressed my discontent with Brice about falsly advertising his replica Kie Office eylids, dont think your too unique that I follow you guys around waiting for oppurtunities to pounce,,, lol,,,

 

Jedi, its people like you that ruin forums... forums are here to provide insight and knowledge. You provide opinion and useless banter. You try and take a functional comment and make it so ludicrius to try and disarm the functional critism. I am not trying to argue with anyone I am trying to shed light on the functional or in this case non functional features of the product. I do not hate aginst anyones products in particular. I find that this particular product is more of an anti functional mod then a functional one. I don't want some of our younger and inexperienced members to fall into the trap of buying something thinking its a perfromance modification.

 

I can't tell what your trying to say due to the misspelled words.


Forgive me for thinking your just picking on BHR. My bad. lol right.
Read my post,, these little fine tuning issues that you have brought to my attention are already being done. So your telling me nothing I don't know already. I'm impressed that your so observant though.
But, your wasting your time trying to make improvements that are being done already.
Anymore discussion on these mute points is done until I see something constructive from you.

 

How about a new upper intake manifold with lower extension?

 

Rotr8. How about you stop thread crapping and move along.

 

Now theres a discussion,,,, How Awesome would that be,,,,
yeah I guess thats all any of the fanbios read, no one ever looks at criticism objectively anymore,,, thanks for proving my point,,,
I have nothing more to say I await the pics of the non-protoype-prototype version, aww man now Im all mixed up again,,,

 

if you really feel what you've posted in this thread is constructive then I feel badly for every teacher you ever had.

 

REALLY?
I guess I should stop offering tech advice, creating threads that get sticky'd, helping members work on their cars, planning meets, helping out with SevenStock, etc.
You're right, I do NO good here and should pack up and leave before I ruin this place.
Your comment is so pathetic and unsubstantiated that I honestly can't help but laugh. What have you done for this forum? You can PM me if you like since that conversation has nothing to do with this thread but if you feel like continuing it, I'd gladly entertain the idea.


I completely agree

the only useless banter I see here is you continuing to beat a dead horse by criticizing which subforum this is placed in. If it's in the wrong section, a Moderator will move it. Get over it, seriously.

so PLEASE, shed light!
If you find it to be an anti functional mod, then please provide us with something to help back up your theory. Easy and Flashwing have tried to do that by monitoring IAT's but you have nothing else to bring to the table but your opinion.
I always welcome a healthy debate.

I thank you for your concern of our 'younger and inexperienced' members but this has been addressed. This 'mod' is NOT marketed as a performance mod.
I will say this again: anyone who buys this thinking it's a Performance mod based solely on the fact of where the thread is, is an idiot. I have no nice way or Politically Correct way of putting that.

 

I always enjoy "theorists" debating data.

Radiant heat? Really?

Its a BOX! Its only function is to improve the look of the engine bay and block CONVECTED heat from the radiator fan. It works. We have the data.
Really, what is there to talk about?
Wanna discuss the function of the engine cover?

 

you call this criticism?
This must be some kind of joke...

whoneedspistons: I found that worthless banter you were talking about. See below.

 

hahahah dont make me laugh ,, oh wait,,, I do feel that way and it is,,, if this product is released in the form its pictured in I feel sorry for those who get it, hearing that the ones made after this will be much more refined,,
I also feel sorry for you for not seeing them(my critiques) for what they are,,, there were no personal assults waged in them at all,,,

My criticisms werent harsh at all, they were blown out of proportion because they were the only ones in here,,, I would love to see this done with a little bit more attention payed to the details of its construction, also I can only critique on what I see here and now, Easy said the production runs will be more refined, I hope and imagine they will be,,,,

 

I could not aggree more,,, except the arguments you speak, I assume carry the negative connotations, not the constructive idealic one, soo sad,,,,

 

yeah your right again Jedi,,, Editing now,,,

 

Leaping leprechauns!

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

There is certainly no service done to protect the newbs by misapplying pseudo-science.

Its not like this item provides softer boost.

 

have you seen the FAILURE that is Greg's lip spoiler? I never thought it would be possible to make a GTO wing on an RX-8 look uglier.
it looks like someone glued a windshield wiper blade on that hideous wing. here

but whatever, I dont' like it so I wouldn't buy it / do it to my car. At least I didn't go into his thread and crap all over it because I don't like the way it looks.
back on topic. If that's even possible at this point...

 

yeah thats over with,,, Im still not buying your stuff though, but thats something none of us really care about,,

I really dont care what any of you do though, we all have our paths, so I guess my criticisms fell on pretty def ears, they were pretty good though, whatever,,, no one wins from this discussion anyways, people will buy this and when I see it in person, because Im sure soem people in my area will get it too, I will look it over and keep my opinions to myself, because it could be so much more,,,,

 

hahahaah That lip spoiler dimensions came right from Sylvain Trembleys mouth, yeah hes a total failure,,, But thats ok I dont expcet you to really know anything about aero anyway, we each have our stuff that we geek out about,,,,
I invite anyone who wants to lay a critique on my stuff to do so, it will only make it better and make me think in another direction that I previously did not before,,, That almost sounds like something that someone I know used to say

Alright Im hungry fellas time to eat,,,

 

BHR never said that this was a performance mod. I am sure that if anyone posed the questions they would openly say that it is not ment to be performance based and would never misinform their customers.

IMO, BHR has built their company around customer service and producing quaility products. They noticed like many of us with AEM/ MS intakes that their is a big open space and produced a product to fill that space.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and can voice what they think about the product here. If you don't like it fine, don't buy it. On the same token don't mislead their potential customers by making bogus claims that you cannot back up (ie this mod will caus heat soak).

If you have empirical data that says this product will decrease performance, I am sure that BHR would love to see it and would correct the problem immediately. Otherwise quit trying to make this into something that it is not!

 

Now that you mention it....

 

whats the page to order one

 

Actually, I'd like to hear a plausible theory on how a metal with a low specific heat like aluminum is going to cause "heat soak" by converting convective energy into equivalent radiant energy.

Its just there to block the hot wind from the rad fan - just like Mazda's plastic pan does.

Try this:
Grab your MAP gas torch, start it and then point it at the palm of your hand from about 6 inches out.
Once the screaming stops and your neighbor puts down the extinguisher, grab a 1/8 inch piece of aluminum sheet (like that in the BHR Intake Shroud) and repeat the experiment, this time with the aluminum about half-way between your torch and your gimpy appendage.
You will probably notice (if you still have functioning nerves in that hand), that convective does NOT equal radiant at a 1:1 ratio.

 

http://blackhaloracing.com/products-...intake-shroud/

 

Ok so I just drove home from Charles R. Hill's house. About 23 miles.

Ambient temp ranged from 75 - 77 degrees.
Intake temps ranged from 78 -82 degrees.
Range as always is 3-6 degrees above ambient.
This was a 50/50 split of city and freeway.
You can take my word for it or not. If you want me to take a video to prove this I will certainly make the 25 minute video for your viewing pleasure to prove that the alleged heat soak issue does not exist due to this product.

 

Is it safe to post now? Crazy **** goin on in here....the way I see it BHR the thread title says it all "Intake Shroud" nothin more I like the product it cleans up the engine bay