Looking for a real performance chip
05-26-2008, 10:39 AM
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Looking for a real performance chip
I was just wondering if there is a real performance chip, and not that crap on ebay. All my friends bought serious performance chips for their cars( audi A4, s2000, BMW 3 Series) and it really does seem to work, just wondering if there are legit chips for the 8.
05-26-2008, 10:47 AM
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Most people just call MazdaManiac and buy a COBB Accessport, but I've heard that they actually take away 1.785 hp, and 0.03 lb/ft of Torque.
I recommend to all who ask that instead, you install one of THESE
Happy Motoring!
I recommend to all who ask that instead, you install one of THESE
Happy Motoring!
05-26-2008, 10:53 AM
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Sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet. That is what he was trying to convey. He may have also been trying to tell the OP to read more and search before posting.
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05-26-2008, 10:54 AM
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05-26-2008, 12:02 PM
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I mean I already have the Pettit SC and the Interceptor X, but I was just looking for another way to put some more power into my beauty... thanks anyway for the feedback.
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06-19-2008, 12:25 PM
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Most people just call MazdaManiac and buy a COBB Accessport, but I've heard that they actually take away 1.785 hp, and 0.03 lb/ft of Torque.
I recommend to all who ask that instead, you install one of THESE
Happy Motoring!
I recommend to all who ask that instead, you install one of THESE
Happy Motoring!
haha, their superior ones are superior to the inferior ones, I love the description in that link.
06-19-2008, 01:06 PM
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Alright, lets recap here...
You've been on this board since March 2006
You have a Supercharger
You run the Int-x
Yet you STILL don't know that there is NOT a 'chip' for our car?!
You've been on this board since March 2006
You have a Supercharger
You run the Int-x
Yet you STILL don't know that there is NOT a 'chip' for our car?!
02-26-2010, 08:44 AM
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I know that there are a lot of people in the pockets of a select few vendors and hate on every thing that seems to take money from their pockets(such as my exhaust) and if there is a good chip out their this could put a pain in the side of thous that sell certain programmers around here. These chips could just as well be junk and I know there has to at least one member here that rolled the dice on one I am just trying to find an unbiased review
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02-26-2010, 08:48 AM
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I know that there are a lot of people in the pockets of a select few vendors and hate on every thing that seems to take money from their pockets(such as my exhaust) and if there is a good chip out their this could put a pain in the side of thous that sell certain programmers around here. These chips could just as well be junk and I know there has to at least one member here that rolled the dice on one I am just trying to find an unbiased review
02-26-2010, 08:52 AM
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There will never be a "chip" for the 8. The vendors on the boards here are basically the only vendors in the world that are willing to do serious R+D for the 8. Lots of people can make some assumptions that Chip A will work for a certain range of vehicles, Chip B for another range, etc... The 8 is unique. ECU wise, it isn't even like the RX-7s. Anything made for the 8 will only be applicable for the 8, and that REALLY drives up research and development costs. Alot. And there isn't a broad market for it even among 8s.
IF by some chance hell freezes over, and a chip is produced, it will probably be $700+ and likely be inferior to your factory tune. You can't just "trick the sensor" on 8s like you can on piston cars. It's already close enough to the edge from the factory that you can easily trick it into critical failure.
Race teams spend $30,000 or so for an ECU replacement and usually can still only get into the 225whp range, though a few have claimed 230 or so.
Get THAT 'chip' if you really want it.
IF by some chance hell freezes over, and a chip is produced, it will probably be $700+ and likely be inferior to your factory tune. You can't just "trick the sensor" on 8s like you can on piston cars. It's already close enough to the edge from the factory that you can easily trick it into critical failure.
Race teams spend $30,000 or so for an ECU replacement and usually can still only get into the 225whp range, though a few have claimed 230 or so.
Get THAT 'chip' if you really want it.
02-26-2010, 09:10 AM
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Another clarification. The ECU reprogramming devices out there (COBB namely), have to hack the ECU, unscramble it, and figure out how to change it as needed. That took quite a while for the 8. Long enough, with a low enough return on investment, that they have decided not to even try for the 2009+, since they have to go back through all of that again.
And that is manually adjusting the ECU specific to that car.
A 'chip' is a universal change which would be made to any car under any condition that it is applied to. There simply isn't enough room for improvement in the 8's ECU for a universal adjustment to work for everyone. Alot of people run too lean, alot run too rich, very few run just right. As an example, my friend got the AP, and got his 8 tuned, and it brought his 8 up to the point mine was running at from the factory. And it was faint ECU variations to do it.
A universal chip will never happen for the same reason a bolt-on intake or exhaust will never produce real power. The 8 is tuned that good from the factory. Not perfect granted, and some purist will call the factory tune terrible, but we are a few small hp% off the optimum, rather than 20-30% off the optimum like manufacturers do for piston cars.
And that is manually adjusting the ECU specific to that car.
A 'chip' is a universal change which would be made to any car under any condition that it is applied to. There simply isn't enough room for improvement in the 8's ECU for a universal adjustment to work for everyone. Alot of people run too lean, alot run too rich, very few run just right. As an example, my friend got the AP, and got his 8 tuned, and it brought his 8 up to the point mine was running at from the factory. And it was faint ECU variations to do it.
A universal chip will never happen for the same reason a bolt-on intake or exhaust will never produce real power. The 8 is tuned that good from the factory. Not perfect granted, and some purist will call the factory tune terrible, but we are a few small hp% off the optimum, rather than 20-30% off the optimum like manufacturers do for piston cars.