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SE3P 11-18-2003 02:01 AM

JIC Magic Full Titanium muffler !!!
 
I got JIC DE T-2 Full Titanium weight is 18lbs!(stock was 39lbs)
got extra 5hp gain.

Brian Goodwin 11-18-2003 02:32 AM

Nice weight savings! Saw that exhaust at the SEMA show. Do you have a dyno print out to post?

Brian Goodwin
www.good-win-racing.com

compaddict 11-18-2003 06:59 AM

How do you like it?

Can you make a sound clip?

Price?

Saving twenty pounds that far back must make a huge difference!


Thanks,

Vince

Turborex 11-18-2003 07:21 AM

SE3P is that the stock suspension system?

Brian Goodwin 11-18-2003 09:28 AM


Originally posted by Turborex
SE3P is that the stock suspension system?
Nope, from the picture that looks like Racing Beat sways and JIC Coilovers...


Brian Goodwin
www.good-win-racing.com

XeRo 11-18-2003 10:51 AM

Exactly what i was thinking....but I thought JIC wasn't production complete yet....SE3P, are you lucky enough to run with the prototypes...you dog!!...

huhsler 11-18-2003 11:08 AM

An extra 5HP across the board or top end?

Turborex 11-18-2003 02:04 PM

Coilovers on the 8 sounds awesome! I don't mean to hijack, but maybe you can post another thread about the coilovers.
Let us know your feelings about the titanium exhaust.

mikeb 11-18-2003 02:47 PM

very nice
is this just a prototype for you

Brian Goodwin 11-18-2003 02:50 PM


Originally posted by Turborex
Coilovers on the 8 sounds awesome! I don't mean to hijack, but maybe you can post another thread about the coilovers.
Let us know your feelings about the titanium exhaust.

Actually, that thread is indeed already pending elsewhere in the forum with recent comments on install by MazdaTrix folks.

Brian Goodwin
www.good-win-racing.com

mikeb 11-18-2003 03:05 PM

where???

Brian Goodwin 11-18-2003 03:52 PM


Originally posted by mikeb
where???

Hopefully this works: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=14066

Brian Goodwin
www.good-win-racing.com

Superfan 11-18-2003 04:37 PM

Let's talk $'s How much for that bad boy?

djmano 11-18-2003 06:26 PM


Originally posted by Superfan
Let's talk $'s How much for that bad boy?

better start saving your lunch money.....JIC website lists it at about $1800. they have a stainless steel version for around $900.

Superfan 11-18-2003 08:01 PM

Yikes.. I like the weight savings but I don't think $1800 is worth 5hp and -21lbs.

mikeb 11-18-2003 08:19 PM

I want the amuse exhaust but its like 1700

djmano 11-19-2003 01:45 AM

amuse and jic titanium are both beautiful......i feel they are worth their asking prices for the craftsmanship put into them. however, i myself cannot really afford a $1700 exhaust system and will probably wait for hks, blitz or racing beats offerings,

No Pistons 11-19-2003 02:52 PM


Originally posted by Superfan
Yikes.. I like the weight savings but I don't think $1800 is worth 5hp and -21lbs.
You lose 21lbs from and after market exhaust?:eek: :eek: :eek:

Thats terrible, why spend that kind of money to lose that kind of torque.

Are all systems like this, or just the JIC?

Thanks
Drew

huhsler 11-19-2003 03:07 PM

That's 21 lbs of actual weight savings, not torque.

No Pistons 11-19-2003 06:02 PM

Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me. I was confused.
-Drew

Dookie_Rx-8 11-19-2003 06:47 PM

does it sound rice rockety cuz i dont like that annoying noise ,they should have a sound forum so we can listen to sounds if someone post it

mikeb 11-19-2003 08:17 PM

sound forum
good idea

No Pistons 11-19-2003 11:53 PM

I also would love to here how it sounds.
-Drew

SE3P 11-20-2003 01:21 AM

Titanium muffler piping size is same with stock size (60mm) they said they did test with 65mm,70mm, 75mm in Japan. then stock size made best result. 2 weeks before mid night (3am)at Fwy 15 drove my car and made 160mile. real speed maybe 145mile... RX8 has OK HP. before I had 350Z but I like now RX8 better than Z33.
good car. Car idle is very quiet. they said idle is 63 db and when rpm is 5000rpm 80db. high rpm sound is very high good sound. they list price is $1698- for full titanium. full stainless steel they said $898-. and weight is 28lbs. I have JIC coil over kit. my car SCCmagazine done performance test. car made skid pad 1.01G !slarom test 78mile ( new record ) ! braking tst 60mile to 0 mile 102ft! ( I have stop tech 14 inch rotors and 4 pistons) stock data they told me skid pad 0.9G slarom 70mile, braking 114ft. my car has racing beet sway bar. but non adjustable. hokikiss company will make 3 way adjustable sway bar kit soon. I thinking change w\sway bar .

syntrix 11-20-2003 02:10 AM

Good info SE3P!!!!

I can't wait to pull over a G in the skidpad with my JIC's on order!!!

Which jic exhaust did I take a pic of here at sema:

http://www.swankmonkey.com/mig/album...2/IMGP1543.JPG

djmano 11-20-2003 02:48 AM

thats the stainless. the titanium has scorched tips.

compaddict 11-20-2003 08:32 AM

<beg mode on>

Could you make a sound clip for us?

Please, please, please?

Vince

Lawerence 11-20-2003 10:18 AM


Originally posted by SE3P
Titanium muffler piping size is same with stock size (60mm) they said they did test with 65mm,70mm, 75mm in Japan. then stock size made best result. 2 weeks before mid night (3am)at Fwy 15 drove my car and made 160mile. real speed maybe 145mile... RX8 has OK HP. before I had 350Z but I like now RX8 better than Z33.
good car. Car idle is very quiet. they said idle is 63 db and when rpm is 5000rpm 80db. high rpm sound is very high good sound. they list price is $1698- for full titanium. full stainless steel they said $898-. and weight is 28lbs. I have JIC coil over kit. my car SCCmagazine done performance test. car made skid pad 1.01G !slarom test 78mile ( new record ) ! braking tst 60mile to 0 mile 102ft! ( I have stop tech 14 inch rotors and 4 pistons) stock data they told me skid pad 0.9G slarom 70mile, braking 114ft. my car has racing beet sway bar. but non adjustable. hokikiss company will make 3 way adjustable sway bar kit soon. I thinking change w\sway bar .

Wow, that really didnt make sense. Try periods and full sentences, it helps when other ppl are reading your post.

Now I dont mean to be an ass, but could you elaborate on how you got those specs? What tests were done etc.

I mean 102 ft 60-0 is better than any production car ever...I have a hard time believing it, along with 78mph slalom...

Im not saying its not possible...Im just one of those people who need concrete evidene to believe something.

SE3P 11-20-2003 01:45 PM

we made it. if you don't think call SCC magazine talk with Dave C.

Lawerence 11-20-2003 02:14 PM

Sorry thats not good enough for me.

its not like it matters because my car pulls 1.2gs, stops from 60 in 97ft, does the slalom at 83mph. And will run faster than a 14.5 seccond 1/4 mile (no rx8 in the US without an engine swap or a power adder can beat that)

Want proof? call my mom she works with Dave coleman at SCC.

syntrix 11-20-2003 02:17 PM


Originally posted by Lawerence
Sorry thats not good enough for me.

its not like it matters because my car pulls 1.2gs, stops from 60 in 97ft, does the slalom at 83mph. And will run faster than a 14.5 seccond 1/4 mile (no rx8 in the US without an engine swap or a power adder can beat that)

Want proof? call my mom she works with Dave coleman at SCC.

how is this related and productive to the community at this point?

What's the number? I'll call.

islandsoon 11-20-2003 02:46 PM

I'm with you Synrix... Excellent pictures and great info SE3P!!

Some guys aren't happy unless you go so far as to install the mod on their car yourself. Believe what you like, don't believe what you like, but don't ride a guy for not submitting all the info you would like before dropping $ on a project. Call this Dave C dude if you need more info.
Tom

SE3P 11-20-2003 03:52 PM

Thanks islandsoon.

Efini 8 11-25-2003 10:24 PM

SE3P - do you have the dyno graph to show us the 5hp you gained? I am considering this exhaust, but its quite expensive for a mesly 5hp... $330 for 1hp gain if the exhaust is $1650 retail.

syntrix 11-25-2003 10:33 PM


Originally posted by Efini 8
SE3P - do you have the dyno graph to show us the 5hp you gained? I am considering this exhaust, but its quite expensive for a mesly 5hp... $330 for 1hp gain if the exhaust is $1650 retail.
Well, TI is expensive, but the main gains are an edge in racing, as the weight is much less!

If you can afford it, go for it! I think the cats are the main restriction!

If you are an average daily driver looking for a little gain and a good sound, then definately get some sort of exhaust!

I agree, dyno posts would be nice, but not every person has those at hand to put on the net... not everyone has a scanner, or a digi-cam!!!

Efini 8 11-25-2003 11:06 PM


Originally posted by syntrix
Well, TI is expensive, but the main gains are an edge in racing, as the weight is much less!

If you can afford it, go for it! I think the cats are the main restriction!

If you are an average daily driver looking for a little gain and a good sound, then definately get some sort of exhaust!

I agree, dyno posts would be nice, but not every person has those at hand to put on the net... not everyone has a scanner, or a digi-cam!!!

I know man lol, Ti is cool looking and lightweight, but with $1650 I certainly expect a considerable amount of performance gain per dollar ratio.

syntrix 11-25-2003 11:10 PM

Yeah, it is pricey, but if you have good sponsors, then not a problem!

Unfortunately, I'm a privateer, so all racing funds come out of my own pocket!!!

compaddict 12-09-2003 10:41 AM

Any sound clips yet?

Vince

RX-8 friend 12-09-2003 11:38 AM

From other threads, we are finding that there is only 5 HP available, and that's with an open exhaust. Cat-backs are getting about 3 HP, so the only benefits will be "better" sound and lighter weight. This Ti system gives both. Very nice. Yes, very expensive. Hey, it's a Mazda. Parts have to be expensive.

The new laws make any tinkering with the cat totally illegal (except for "offroad use"). This is in any state (and Canada, sigh). Luckly, in some juristictions, no-one tests, and some have no fine for this (us). Keep your old parts, though, cause they can still force you to switch back.

NskGenakuDuckie 12-10-2003 02:16 AM

Just because it's titanium doesn't mean it's going to give you extra HP. The reason for the price is because the whole exhaust is titanium, the performance gain is in weight savings, not power.

The car is N/A.... you'd be lucky to get 5-8hp gains. If you want the most HP gains de-cat and run straight through exhaust piping. But your low-end will suck even more than it already does. Top-end will gain dramatically i'd believe.

rotarygod 12-10-2003 02:31 AM

Here you guys go. Rotary Performance in Dallas is extremely reputable. Here's their system (Greddy) and their results.

http://www.rx7.com/RPGReddyRX8exhaust/dynocharts.html

mikeb 12-10-2003 02:34 PM

nice link
but they are asking too much for the greddy

syntrix 12-10-2003 09:54 PM


Originally posted by rotarygod
Here you guys go. Rotary Performance in Dallas is extremely reputable. Here's their system (Greddy) and their results.

http://www.rx7.com/RPGReddyRX8exhaust/dynocharts.html

22 hp gain from just an exhaust? Although they might be extremely reputable.... 22 does sound like a lot!

OverLOAD 12-12-2003 04:20 PM

Did you see that boost in the line that comes in at 6000 rpm? Id want to see validation of that data by someone else too.. Anyone else who has the exhaust care to comment?

Efini 8 12-14-2003 07:33 PM


Originally posted by OverLOAD
Did you see that boost in the line that comes in at 6000 rpm? Id want to see validation of that data by someone else too.. Anyone else who has the exhaust care to comment?
that "boost" in power could be several things, above 4500 rpms, the renesis engine in the high powered version, opens another intake tract as well as several other features such as the other intake ports to produce additional power.

tommy12g 12-14-2003 07:43 PM

Im doing 9 sec 1/4 mile if you dont believe me call my mom she works as a hotdog vendor at the track!!

OverLOAD 12-15-2003 11:25 AM


Originally posted by Efini 8
that "boost" in power could be several things, above 4500 rpms, the renesis engine in the high powered version, opens another intake tract as well as several other features such as the other intake ports to produce additional power.
Why would that be so pronounced with a cat-back as opposed to stock form?

mikeb 12-29-2003 02:41 PM

JIC exhaust
 
looking for a sound clip or any pics of stainless exhaust on the 8

VividRacing.com 12-29-2003 03:59 PM

Here you go mike. The full pic is the Ti but the design is the same in stainless. These are the best pics we got from the dudes over at JIC. We compleatly forgot to get a sound clip of the exhaust while we went out to the track with them. I can tell you this, It's quiet, even at WOT. THe B&B definatley louder.

http://vividracing.securesites.net/c.../jicrx8exh.jpg
http://vividracing.securesites.net/c...crx8sstipa.jpg

mikeb 12-29-2003 04:34 PM

thanks

but the stainless steel doesn't have color on the tips right?


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