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07-31-2008, 03:39 PM
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you don't really upgrade ignition unless you are going onto major power upgrades or you want better throttle response. i dont think you can actually gain any power of a ignition ugrade just better throttle response.
07-31-2008, 04:41 PM
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No and heres a rule most racers go by if it goes past 375hp then its time for a ignition upgrade or if you want better throttle response then upgrade it could shave a second or of your track time but for actual power under 375hp i dont think so.
and that car had more then ignition done to it trust me
and that car had more then ignition done to it trust me
07-31-2008, 04:47 PM
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No and heres a rule most racers go by if it goes past 375hp then its time for a ignition upgrade or if you want better throttle response then upgrade it could shave a second or of your track time but for actual power under 375hp i dont think so.
and that car had more then ignition done to it trust me
and that car had more then ignition done to it trust me
even at stock power levels the ignition is only adequate at best
07-31-2008, 05:49 PM
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my corolla, s13 and 1.8 didnt need it till they hit 375hp. Honda needs it at 400hp or more. and i guess its 330hp on this one hmmmm thats kinda low dont you think?
07-31-2008, 06:10 PM
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The stock coils don't stand up to the heat well. They degrade over time.
Assuming your stock coils are functional and not wearing down, you can expect no gain by switching to different coils unless you're well over 300 whp. So anyone who isn't FI, don't expect much.
However, if you switch, your car can run temporarily lean causing your car to gain a bit of power till the PCM learns and readjusts. After that, you can expect the car to perform normally again.
Basically, if you're 330+ whp, you would need to upgrade.
If you're not over 330 whp, then upgrade if you want to escape from upgrading coils once every 1-3 years.
The BHR coils don't need an ignition box and don't need tuning to make work, unlike the Mazsport ones.
Assuming your stock coils are functional and not wearing down, you can expect no gain by switching to different coils unless you're well over 300 whp. So anyone who isn't FI, don't expect much.
However, if you switch, your car can run temporarily lean causing your car to gain a bit of power till the PCM learns and readjusts. After that, you can expect the car to perform normally again.
Basically, if you're 330+ whp, you would need to upgrade.
If you're not over 330 whp, then upgrade if you want to escape from upgrading coils once every 1-3 years.
The BHR coils don't need an ignition box and don't need tuning to make work, unlike the Mazsport ones.
07-31-2008, 06:26 PM
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07-31-2008, 06:28 PM
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everyone says everything increases throttle response.
new intake? more throttle response.
throttle body bypass? more throttle response.
ignition coils? more throttle response.
new catback? more throttle response.
catless midpipe? more throttle response.
v-tec sticker? more throttle response.
getting punched in the neck? more throttle response.
new intake? more throttle response.
throttle body bypass? more throttle response.
ignition coils? more throttle response.
new catback? more throttle response.
catless midpipe? more throttle response.
v-tec sticker? more throttle response.
getting punched in the neck? more throttle response.
07-31-2008, 06:35 PM
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would this not provide more complete combustion of the fuel charge, since it is suppose to create a larger spark and hopfully a larger flame front
I may be making assumtions here but I was hoping it would provide a little better overall combustion of the fuel that is being added and maybe a 1-2 Mpg increase
I may be making assumtions here but I was hoping it would provide a little better overall combustion of the fuel that is being added and maybe a 1-2 Mpg increase
07-31-2008, 06:38 PM
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[QUOTE=mysql;2576599]everyone says everything increases throttle response.
ignition coils? more throttle response.
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thats the only one i saw that'll actually increase throttle response.
if you want more throttle response jus upgrade throttle body, ignition components, clutch/flywheel.. thats basically it
if you want a bit more power then go with intake, mid-pipe, cat delete or hi-flow cat and exhaust.
ignition coils? more throttle response.
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thats the only one i saw that'll actually increase throttle response.
if you want more throttle response jus upgrade throttle body, ignition components, clutch/flywheel.. thats basically it
if you want a bit more power then go with intake, mid-pipe, cat delete or hi-flow cat and exhaust.
07-31-2008, 06:40 PM
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Don't take this as gospel, but I just filled up today after 250 miles on a tank, my previous record was only about 230 miles or so. No driving habit or mod changes, so it's not real scientific and I'm not really sure yet.
One other thing I've noticed besides just a little throttle response is that my exhaust tips don't have nearly the oily deposits on them as they used to. I'll bet I wipe them off maybe once a week where I used to do it every single day.
One other thing I've noticed besides just a little throttle response is that my exhaust tips don't have nearly the oily deposits on them as they used to. I'll bet I wipe them off maybe once a week where I used to do it every single day.
07-31-2008, 07:12 PM
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I have yet to see a plausible reason for paying more for a system that may need tweaking to get working properly. You're dropping $599 for what exactly?
07-31-2008, 07:53 PM
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the intake and cat-back are practically useless for power as you cant consistently get the same results for anything more than 1-3hp from any combination
07-31-2008, 08:26 PM
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that was the whole point of me saying abit more power not that much and i was talking about a catalytic converter not a cat-back my bad. OR YOU CAN DO MY FAVORITE NO CAT OR NO MUFFLER JUST A STRAIGHT PIPE BACK! it sounds cool but it illegal 