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Judge Ito 08-21-2004 04:18 PM

I just dynoed 240 rear wheel HP! Bye,Bye, 14.3 seconds
 
I'm on a mission to make my Rx8 run faster and faster. I just dynoed 239.7 rwhp. I would have made more power. My spark plugs are shot and I didn't get a chance to change them. Tomorrow I'll be test and tunning and looking to destroy my previous 14.3 E.T. I'll have somebody help me post the dyno sheet.

(Please do not ask me how I achieved this power. I am not at liberty to say) The Rx8 is still bone stock... If I land a perfect launch 13.? we will soon find out...

Lufa 08-21-2004 04:29 PM

Bone stock 239.7 rwhp... hmmm, sounds like you have a really skewed dyno, or you were on some very heavy drugs. Or Bone stock is the name of your mod...

either way, cheers!

No offense, I realize you have the best 1/4 mile times so far, but do you really expect anyone to believe this?

Tony Orlando 08-21-2004 04:30 PM

Still bone stock, 237 RWHP? Eh? :confused:

To make a statement like that, then tell people not to ask, that's expecting the impossible. Are you part of a CIA HP project? Come on, man.... :cool:

Judge Ito 08-21-2004 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Lufa
Bone stock 239.7 rwhp... hmmm, sounds like you have a really skewed dyno, or you were on some very heavy drugs. Or Bone stock is the name of your mod...

either way, cheers!

No offense, I realize you have the best 1/4 mile times so far, but do you really expect anyone to believe this?

No offense taking. If all goes well tomorrow I'll have a better time slip..Believe the better time slip I should have tomorrow if it doesn't rain..

Judge Ito 08-21-2004 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Tony Orlando
Still bone stock, 237 RWHP? Eh? :confused:

To make a statement like that, then tell people not to ask, that's expecting the impossible. Are you part of a CIA HP project? Come on, man.... :cool:

Be a happy Rx8 owner and understand the your Rx8 has loads of potential..

Lufa 08-21-2004 04:48 PM

OK, count me in the interested yet skeptical column.

So, if you open up a 13.xx 1/4 mile can you share the secret then? or will it be a trade secret? and if so where do I sign up for the NDA? :)

RussellP 08-21-2004 05:28 PM

this is total BS. The car does have that kind of power.

Lock & Load 08-21-2004 05:33 PM

This sounds like American propaganda , and more BS . :rolleyes:

cheers
michael

Judge Ito 08-21-2004 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by RussellP
this is total BS. The car does have that kind of power.

240rwhp on a 3230lbs Rx8 should put me in the 13.40 to 13.60 range. Let the time slip speak for itself.

Judge Ito 08-21-2004 05:43 PM

no aftermarket intake, no aftermarket exhaust, no aftermarket ecu... zoom...zoom...zoom...

Omicron 08-21-2004 06:15 PM

Folks, if Judge Ito says he dyno'd 240 WHP, you can bet your ass he did.

I think "Bone Stock" is the name of the mod... or perhaps, he had his Renesis street ported. We'll see.

Lock & Load 08-21-2004 06:22 PM

In GOD we trust all others pay cash :D .need proof .

cheers
michael

jowettw 08-21-2004 06:50 PM

nice. will you be telling us 'how?' eventually?

Kel Rx8 08-21-2004 07:11 PM

the word in the street is your 8 has NOS ?
is it true or no comment ?
good luck Ito @ track.

alex 08-21-2004 07:15 PM

'chkconfig morehorsepower on'

perhaps its a linux config option :)

mysql101 08-21-2004 07:16 PM

reliable sources have told me he's using bottle rockets in order to propel his car to break neck speeds.

titaniumgrey 08-21-2004 08:07 PM

hmmz .. still stock ... hmmz I am guessing you took off the whole exhaust and took off the whole intake , thats still stock to me ... and then hmmmz .... 16" lightweight rims.

Ok .. I give up , I have no idea how da hell you got 240 WHP ... you didn't take off the exhaust and intake did you ? No reflashes ? hmmmz maybe you got a jap ecu and plugged it in ? Are the tires stock ? Rims stock ? exhaust and intake still on ? Traction control on ?

titaniumgrey 08-21-2004 08:08 PM

oops forgot that you said don't ask how lol, anyways, when you gonna be at the drag ? I'll come down and witness this myself....

mysql101 08-21-2004 08:12 PM

If it's not bottle rockets, it's $50 to bribe the dyno guy

If he's made any changes, even to stock parts, it's really not stock anymore.


stock - regularly and widely used or sold; "a standard size"; "a stock item"

titaniumgrey 08-21-2004 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by JasonHamilton
If it's not bottle rockets, it's $50 to bribe the dyno guy

If he's made any changes, even to stock parts, it's really not stock anymore.

Hmm .. I know ... some type of high octane gasoline or something .. and royal purple oil ... and errr .... some special mix of transmission oil ... errr maybe some other stuff too .... :rolleyes:

shelleys_man_06 08-21-2004 09:04 PM

Let's see a dyno sheet Judge Ito. :)

Omicron 08-21-2004 10:14 PM

Screw the dyno, I'd be happy with time slips showing mid to low 13s. :D

Patience folks. Ito will tell all when he's ready. I'm just hoping in all his R&D work that he's figured out a way to strengthen the tranny...

SEVENplus1 08-21-2004 10:54 PM

tell us the secret! haha cant wait for the track time

Nemesis8 08-21-2004 11:07 PM

Hmmm... Rotary Engine Shop Owner by day, secret ACME RWHP rubber bands by night. Good luck at the track!

SHOWOFF 08-22-2004 12:24 AM

Ok this is one of my pet peeves. Why would even get on here to tell people this kind of thing if you have no intentions on proving yourself or letting anyone else know how you did it. I have seen people do this all the time on different forums.

It's like saying... Hey I found an unlimited supply of free cash. I had it all yesterday when no one was around, but it's gone now and don't ask me where it is because I can't tell you right now. I promise you I'll tell you one of these days where to go to get it.

Post dyno sheets and tell us how you have "magically made 239.7 HP" when no one else could. :rolleyes: I know that if I had the resources at a shop and that shop knew how anyone and everyone was trying to get more power out of an engine it would be a good and not to mention profitable business decision to let everyone know that this shop could be a repeat performer.

Until you give hard proof I am steadily waving the BS flag high in the air over this post.

Please prove it. I'd love to go faster. :D

Xyntax 08-22-2004 01:25 AM

I get it! You are running stock but running Diesel

:D

B-Nez 08-22-2004 02:36 AM

From what I've seen the past 11 months, Ito is a pretty serious chap. He hasn't been one to make superfluous claims. I do understand everyone's point, but I'm sure he has a good reason to keep his knowledge close hold - for the time being, anyway. I'll certainly be interested to hear what has to say when he choses to do so.

Ralph Brown 08-22-2004 03:30 AM

I'am happy for you Ito, Hope you put the info on this forum for all to see

Dookie_Rx-8 08-22-2004 04:15 AM

so im guessing ITO messed with the computer maybe?

Judge Ito 08-22-2004 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by SHOWOFF
Ok this is one of my pet peeves. Why would even get on here to tell people this kind of thing if you have no intentions on proving yourself or letting anyone else know how you did it. I have seen people do this all the time on different forums.

It's like saying... Hey I found an unlimited supply of free cash. I had it all yesterday when no one was around, but it's gone now and don't ask me where it is because I can't tell you right now. I promise you I'll tell you one of these days where to go to get it.

Post dyno sheets and tell us how you have "magically made 239.7 HP" when no one else could. :rolleyes: I know that if I had the resources at a shop and that shop knew how anyone and everyone was trying to get more power out of an engine it would be a good and not to mention profitable business decision to let everyone know that this shop could be a repeat performer.

Until you give hard proof I am steadily waving the BS flag high in the air over this post.

Please prove it. I'd love to go faster. :D

I understand your point and I also understand every forum members point. All I could say is: Ito is a very well known name around my neck of the woods. So is J.R.'s Rotary Performance(my rotary shop) a modification has been done to the car, but the car looks and is in a bone stock form. For my own protection the Rx8 is bone stock.

Judge Ito 08-22-2004 06:37 AM

Well it's a beautiful morning. The sun is out and I'm off to the drag strip..

Genom 08-22-2004 06:50 AM

I beleive Ito has what he says, but think for a sec. Bone stock means it has all the stock parts. It doesnt mean they havent been modified. He'll say when he wants to, but I think it's ported.

Judge Ito 08-22-2004 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by SHOWOFF

Post dyno sheets and tell us how you have "magically made 239.7 HP" when no one else could. :rolleyes: I know that if I had the resources at a shop and that shop knew how anyone and everyone was trying to get more power out of an engine it would be a good and not to mention profitable business decision to let everyone know that this shop could be a repeat performer.

:D

First and foremost I am not interested at ALL in generating extra work at my shop.(I barely could handle the demand for my work right now) I just come to this forum once in a while to show other Rx8 owners the potential this awesome car has.. with no interest for personal gain.

Japan8 08-22-2004 06:58 AM

Come on man! I doubt you are BS'ing... I've read plenty of your posts on your 1/4 mile times. But come on... you can't just toss out shit like that and not at least give a hint. "No piggyback, but the answer is in the ecu" or "stock, but it IS modded" or something... no need to give away secrets, but a hint at least will help to sate everyone's appetite.

Genom 08-22-2004 07:32 AM

Ito, you cant be surprised people are skeptical. You dont post often here after all. A lot of people dont take kindly to being teased either. I just hope whatever the mod was I can do it, cause something like porting the engine aint gonna happen for me for a while at least.

JmurphRx8 08-22-2004 09:55 AM

come on wheres the proof...the suspense is killing me

shelleys_man_06 08-22-2004 09:59 AM

Well, I believe something has been done to it. It really doesn't matter. I respect Judge Ito's unwillingness to reveal what he's done; I personally wouldn't want to reveal my own modifications, just the results. :)

dannobre 08-22-2004 10:41 AM

Hopefully we will see his results from the track today :D

IZoomZoomI 08-22-2004 10:43 AM

do i smell three rotor? :p

Mugatu 08-22-2004 05:30 PM

well, it's the end of the day - where are the results? and the timeslips? and the video? we ALL expect to see you into the 13s from what you've been saying.

Judge Ito 08-22-2004 05:35 PM

I'll reply later.. just got back home..

LittleDevil 08-22-2004 05:53 PM

alright, let's hear it.

irish8 08-22-2004 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Judge Ito
I'll reply later.. just got back home..

Judge...

We demand justice!! Whats the verdict??

- Irish :cool:

Judge Ito 08-22-2004 06:51 PM

I'm a bit exhausted but here are the results. I changed my back tires.(my original bridgestone rear tires are bold) I basically took the front tires and swapped them to the rear. I could not get the car from seriously slipping traction all day.. My first run I had 17 psi of air pressure(the same psi I have ran the car with latetly and got decent 60 foot marks) but this time the car felt like I was slidding on ice. On that run the engine just kept bouncing off the rev limiter and loosing valuable time. I just aborted the run(every run needs to be flawless for a perfect E.T.) My second run I lower the tire pressure to 12psi.. and got the same scenario as my first run. I was a bit frustrated since I punished the car with some awesome burnouts and the car felt like it was going to hook up. I go for my third and final pass for the day and I lower my tire pressure to 9 psi and do the craziest burnout I have done with my Rx8 up to date, and the same fuc@#%$# thing car felt like it was driving on ice and bouncing off the rev limiter.

With this new power I'm going to have to change to Dot drag radial street tires to get the car to hook up hard and go for a better run. I'll be purchasing tires during the week and test & tune on sunday again.. Basically same car different animal. learning curve all over..

cgrx 08-22-2004 07:53 PM

YOU ARE EVIL ! LOL

Is whatever you did half way affordable ? That is all I want to know.

punishr 08-22-2004 07:59 PM

Something doesn't seem right to me. If you can't hook up with the potenzas' that are on the car or some different tires, with only 9psi, and doing the "craziest burnout you have done", in a 3200lb Rx8 that is supposedly "bone stock", with 240whp, and with all of the so called testing and tuning you have done, and not even give us one E.T. time, HOW DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY??????

I am not trying to call you a liar, but man come on, I think I would at least have one 1/4 mile time whether I spun the FUC@#$#$ing wheels down the whole track or not.

I guess I am just saying that when I take a car that I have spent a lot of time and sweat working on to make faster, and was trying to expell the results to other interested car enthusiasts, then I don't believe I would have even left the track, especially after anouncing the possibility of running a 13 sec 1/4 mile run, until I had something to give the people that have followed my progress up to this point and still expect them to still listen to a word I say..............

A couple of people have spoke up for you, and that is why I stuck around to find out how your "testing and tuning" was progressing. But I think I am starting to have a little trouble believing anything now......................

But maybe you can proove me wrong. (very doubtful)

Respectfully,
Punishr

Judge Ito 08-22-2004 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by RussellP
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

i think you took waaay too much air out, and then kept taking more out....a little bit of hop woulda been better than what ended up happening.

Easier said then done... I think you do not have the minimum idea of how bad the wheel spin was. I rather have some wheel spin and a shitty 60 foot mark then having my rear almost come loose of the car from a wheel hop.. Been there done that.. and I don't like it.

Judge Ito 08-22-2004 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by punishr
Something doesn't seem right to me. If you can't hook up with the potenzas' that are on the car or some different tires, with only 9psi, and doing the "craziest burnout you have done", in a 3200lb Rx8 that is supposedly "bone stock", with 240whp, and with all of the so called testing and tuning you have done, and not even give us one E.T. time, HOW DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY??????

I am not trying to call you a liar, but man come on, I think I would at least have one 1/4 mile time whether I spun the FUC@#$#$ing wheels down the whole track or not.

I guess I am just saying that when I take a car that I have spent a lot of time and sweat working on to make faster, and was trying to expell the results to other interested car enthusiasts, then I don't believe I would have even left the track, especially after anouncing the possibility of running a 13 sec 1/4 mile run, until I had something to give the people that have followed my progress up to this point and still expect them to still listen to a word I say..............

A couple of people have spoke up for you, and that is why I stuck around to find out how your "testing and tuning" was progressing. But I think I am starting to have a little trouble believing anything now......................

But maybe you can proove me wrong. (very doubtful)

Respectfully,
Punishr

Drag racing is a very weird sport. just when you think you have it covered sometimes you don't. I have many years of drag racing and I tried to apply it today to bring home a better E.T. but in 3 runs it just did not happen.
Believe me it wasn't from lack of EFFORT..

punishr 08-22-2004 08:18 PM

I am not doubting your effort at all, I just don't understand how you expect poeple to believe what you say when you don't have one single lick of proof of anything....

I am grateful of your efforts to make this car faster. That is why I was keeping up with your progress myself. I am just having a little trouble with no proof what so ever and no rusults to show anybody...

But like I said hopefully you will proove me wrong.......

SHOW ME SOMETHING TO MAKE ME BELIEVE IN YOUR "EFFORT"

cgrx 08-22-2004 08:19 PM

Is whatever you did half way affordable ? That is all I want to know


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