nelsonrx8

if so why spend 6000-8000 k

293 sweet

rotorocks

That's mysql's, and he spend prolly over 6K to get there.

nelsonrx8

what did he change?? everything lol

mysql101

not my car. The car that dynoed those numbers had the int-x, greddy and an aftermarket catback. The rest is pretty much stock. So total cost would be $1500 + $3300 + $600. I don't think the catback helped much.

As for why spend more - looking at peak numbers isn't meaningful. Look at the dyno thread to see where the power and torque come on, and if the power levels are acceptable to you or not.

\\Konig\\

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is there supposed to be a link somewhere?

mysql101

yeah, it's in this thread, silly.

sosonic

I will help with the "greddy math". $1500 + $3300 + $600 = $5,400 dollars (at least). However a 293WHP RX-8 is nothing to sneeze at (kick *** and will take names). There is no denying that the greddy kit is the cheapest way to go FI.

Me personally, if I did go turbo, I would probably go "nuts" and drop a 400HP PLUS kit in. Then I would go give rice racers nightmares.... "Iiitttttt wasssss ah RX-8... it disappeared down the road.... my eyes, they are a burning...."

MazdaManiac

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Still way cheaper than the alternatives - especially at that power level.

mysql101

as I mentioned before. This dyno was done in 2005 when the alternative fuel systems could not do similar power levels. We know the ultimate is capable of similar, so while this specific example has a 1500 dollar overhead, it isnt a requirement. Thus your argument is flawed.

If MM's turbo upgrade works as expected, then the 1500 investment can push this kit to power levels far beyond while still costing under 5k or less (especially with a used kit)

whoneedspistons

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just start running with out a cat... that will make there eyes burn...

Bastage

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How much would tuning cost to get it up to 293 though? Seems like a great price, and that torque is impressive.

mysql101

depends on the tuner. When Scott tuned my car, I think an hour is more than enough time for him to get it done right. He knows the int-x so well he could do it blindfolded. It also helps that he's configured so many that the stock map is very close to begin with. So it ends up being a few minor tweaks to adjust for the car's configuration.

With someone unfamiliar (rotaries in general or the fuel management system) it could take longer.

rotorocks

$1500 + $3300 + $600 = $5,400 dollars + The cost of supporting parts that any one with a trace of sanity wants to implement. Boost Control, BOV, Gauges, the cost of install, Tune... AF meter and a boost controller alone will cost in the area of $600-700. You guys are forgetting all the little, but important stuff that always falls through the cracks and ends up costing additional hundreds of bucks...

Get it into your hears there... HP is not cheap no matter how you look at it.

nelsonrx8

http://www.turbo-kits.com/rx-8_turbo_kits.html

once the turbo kit is installed you can pick up these things as you move on right...

or do you need them from the start

mysql101

we arent forgetting.

No matter what kit you get, you always have to add on the cost for tuning, gauges, etc.

When you talk about the price for a kit, you talk about the cost of the kit only. Adding cost for install and what not isnt realistic since some can self install and mechanics dont charge the same rates.

nelsonrx8

i know many people that would do the install for me

so thats not a problem

i just dont wanta make a left instead of a right

tajabaho1

well, seeing as so many threads were created on greddy turbo "fixes" by MM and Mysql theirselves, I would say there are a shitload of stuff you have to do AFTER you get your Greddy kit done and installed, in that sense I would throw in an extra grand or 2 just to get rid of the impending headaches

nelsonrx8

thanks now to find a kit

USED lol

rotorocks

Sure, but people contact me, and most of them don't know the first thing about it.
no offense guys, but many are totally clueless. and in cases like this: 290/245 hp/tq yoohhhooo! And what happens then? Someone is really disappointed.

Telling people that it will only cost this much to get the kit though is correct, but it does not show the entire picture. There is much more to it than getting the parts and dropping them into the car.

Argue all you want, but I just want potential boost junkies to see the entire picture. with greaddy, streetable, drivable and "reliable" 290 at the wheels is way more than the cost of a kit.

nelsonrx8

i really dont wanta spend more then 5k what do you think would be the best way to go for me

whp wize

mysql101

you can do it for the cost of the kit, and a boost controller.

The rest are good to have but not required.

As I said its not a 1 sized fits all deal. That's why I posted this page:

Http://rotaryinsider.com/rx8-9.html

MazdaManiac

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Technically, it can be done with the kit and a boost controller and nothing else.
That would require some skill, but it is possible.
Not particularly plausible, though.

mysql101

ya. I would not recommend it but its possible. The kit itself is capable of this power level, which is all you can claim. Power levels cannot be guaranteed

rotorocks

I know you can, I most probably could (although I prefer bigger turbos), a few more people can, but that is about it. Most turbo kit owners drive the base maps shipped with their kits. many still use emanage blue.

Again, I am no knocking greddy kit. It's ok for what it is. It's just that if people want more, better open their wallets.

tdiddy

I will eventally post up what the costs of my turbo upgrade were. But for now, lets just say I have a LOT more in it than the price of the "kit".