zoom44

well i dont know why the image tags didn't work but here is a link to the original thread about cleaning the oil off your maf. the pic is on the second page. the iat is the little bulb on the right mislabeled as the MAFs in that post.

Fanman

I had a K&N on my previous car (911) and it burned through 2 MAS' in my car in about 18K miles. The first time my ABS light came on (Porsche's way of telling you your MAS is messed up). Apparently many of the P-car owner's had this issue as the oil would get on the sensor and foul it up, and burn it up. Porsche covered it both times (though the 2nd time they took out my K&N, and replaced it with a OEM air filter. Many of the owners were told to take out the K&N from the box (before you install it, and put it on top of newspaper overnight so as to let the excess oil seep out. Try that.

thew

its about the oil.. the Oil on the K&N can get on the Maf. Buy a Green.. it has almost no oil on it at all . and is a much better product.

D MENAC 7

I am not the only one who has experienced this here on the forum but, when I went to the Chicago Mazda Rev It Up event, G8Rboy asked to look in my stock filter box to check it for oil. Sure enough, there was evidence by a nice oil stain on the stock filter and the box actually had a bit of standing oil in the bottom. This was the STOCK air box and filter we are talking about and it came this way from the factory. So, if Mazda wants to claim that you should not install a filter that has been oiled, they need to clean up their act, first. The K&N CAI I did eventually install a week later, did not feel all that oily to me. Secondly, when I put the stock air box in my back seat for transport home, it leaked oil that I had to clean up.

thew

your 8 must have been over filled with oil.. my stock filter was dry as paper. no oil on it or in the box at all.. but if you over fill the 8 with oil it will over flow into the air box.
still like the green filter much better.

D MENAC 7

That was nice of the dealership to do that since it had not changed because it was not at 5000 miles yet. When I did add oil before, I never put that much in at all.

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

I have had oil issues in the past when the car was stock. When I got the "L" flash, much of the oil problem went away. I just cleaned my accordion tube today while I was installing my nitrous and the only oil in the tube was from long ago. Seems there could be some MAF sensor issues, even while stock.

Charles

thew

Go Green

ans wheres the pics of the NOS ???

mikeb

the dealership also told me the nav plays DVD's

thew

hahaha

Kel Rx8

my dealer never said anything about my RE intake
try another dealer
some like when you hook up the rx8
my dealer service guys love the look of my 8
i cant wait to show them new stuff everytime i go in for oil changes.

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Follow my nitrous thread for current updates.

Charles

Norseman

If dealers had their way, we'd all be buying our tires, oil changes, and probably even air fresheners from them!

Maybe this info from the K&N web site will be of use. (Of course, you can always swap out the 3rd party filter for the OEM before taking it in for service!)

7. Will a K&N filter cause my vehicle’s mass air sensor to fail?

At this time, K&N is unaware of any evidence that K&N air filter oil from a K&N air filter can damage or cause the malfunction of a MAF sensor, regardless of the make of the vehicle involved. K&N takes seriously any claim that one of its products is incompatible with its designated application or can damage or cause the malfunction of any automotive component. Such claims are thoroughly investigated and, when appropriate, testing is undertaken to determine their merit. In the case of MAF sensors, ongoing tests have shown that contamination from K&N air filter oil has not caused any failures or malfunctions of the MAF sensors in the test vehicles. K&N is aware that MAF sensors can become contaminated for a variety of reasons, unrelated to a K&N air filter (such as backfiring, blowby, leaking airbox or leaking intake duct) and that various methods have been used by some service departments and repair shops to clean a dirty or contaminated MAF sensor, such as spraying with an appropriate cleaner. K&N has not completed any tests as to the efficacy of such a process and, therefore, does not officially endorse or recommend any cleaning process. However, if given the choice of either replacing a MAF sensor or cleaning it, K&N recommends that the consumer ask his or her automotive dealer to attempt cleaning, before replacement. It should be noted that the presence of contamination does not mean the contamination was the cause of the MAF sensor failure. Sensors can fail for electrical or mechanical reasons, unrelated to any visible contamination.


16. Will the use of a K&N filter void my factory warranty?

It is against the law for a manufacturer to require the use of a specific brand of air filter unless it provides a replacement air filter, free of charge, under the terms of the warranty. For a more thorough discussion of this law known as the Magnuson-Moss Warranty, see our Vehicle Warranty Section (http://knfilters.com/facts.htm#NEWVEHICLES) of our Air Filter Facts page. Also see our Letter Regarding Vehicle Warranty and K&N Replacement Filters (http://knfilters.com/warrantyletter.htm).

Check out all the FAQ on the K&N site at http://knfilters.com/faq.htm#6.

mtpot1

I took my 8 in for the 'M' flash and got the same shake down. I thought this might be an issue, so I came in with the above listed K&N document. The tech ran away, and I was left with the service manager. He said that it is true that the manufacturer can not force the customer to one brand of expendable product over another. However, the K&N Typhoon represented a modification to the OEM air intake. This combined with Mazda's claim that there is historical data to support these types of filters contaminating the MAF with oil voids THAT part of the warranty. The service manager said that all other parts of the warranty would remain intact. This occurred less than one month ago in South Carolina.

zoom44

well no.7 above is there way of saying "plausible deniabilty" and "prove it".

mtpot1 in his post above has stated it correctly.