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Clutch, Clutches, Clutches
Thanks to Cesar :rock: for doing all the hard work for me on this one. I had little to do with the start of this thread. I have added some spots though for us to fill in. also added the Racing beat clutches. (I have the solid hub 6 puck in my garage. it was going to be used in my race car. dont see the need in an almost stock H.P. RX-8) I know you all wanted to know that. ;) )
ACT Clutch details brochure - http://www.advancedclutch.com/pr/mazdarx8/mazdarx8.pdf __________________________________________________ _______________ OEM Factory $390 Kit Hub - Sprung Puck - Full http://www.finishlineperformance.com...n&key=RX8M1015 ACT Extreme Street/Strip $399 Kit Torque Capacity: 443 ft/lbs Hub - Sprung Puck - Full http://www.rx7store.net/ProductDetai...=ACTEXTREMERX8 ACT Street/Strip Clutch $375 Kit Hub - Sprung Puck - Full Torque Capacity: 330 ft/lbs http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/actrx8.htm *****Centerforce Clutch Kits***** Info from horsepowerfreaks.com unless otherwise noted. http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pric...ls/Clutch_Kits Centerforce Dual Friction $266 Hub - Sprung Puck - Segmented Holding Capacity = ? Centerforce Stage 1 $220 Hub - Sprung Puck - ? Holding Capacity = 30% over stock Centerforce Stage 2 $220 Hub - ? Puck - ? Holding Capacity = 60% over stock Clutch Masters Stage 1 $336 Kit Hub - ? Puck - ? Holding Capacity = 40%-65% over stock http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/v...7_18_1205_3056 Clutch Masters Stage 2 no such thing. ;) Clutch Masters Stage 3 $506 Kit Hub - ? Puck - ? Holding Capacity = 110% over stock http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/v...7_18_1205_3056 Clutch Masters Stage 4 $506 Kit Hub - ? Puck - ? Holding Capacity = 170% over stock http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/v...7_18_1205_3056 Clutch Masters Stage 5 $336 Kit Hub - ? Puck - ? Holding Capacity = 200%-400% over stock http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/v...7_18_1205_3056 Exedy Twin Plate $1450 Kit http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/v...7_18_1205_3056 *****SPEC Clutch Kits***** Info from horsepowerfreaks.com unless otherwise noted. http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pric...ls/Clutch_Kits SPEC Stage 1 $550 Kit Hub - Sprung Puck - Full Holding Capacity = http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/specclutchrx8.htm SPEC Stage 2 $575 Kit Hub - Sprung Puck - Segmented Holding Capacity = http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/specstage2rx8.htm SPEC Stage 2+ $674.10 Hub - Sprung Puck - Segmented Holding Capacity = ? SPEC Stage 3 $647.10 Hub - Sprung Puck - 4 or 6 puck Holding Capacity = ? SPEC Stage 3+ $782.10 Hub - Sprung Puck - Full Holding Capacity = ? SPEC Stage 4 - - - - 3,4,6 Pad $647.10 Hub - Solid Puck - 3, 4 or 6 puck Holding Capacity = ? SPEC Stage 5 $755.10 Hub - Solid Puck - ? Holding Capacity = ? SR Motorsports Heavy Duty $549 Kit Hub - ? Puck - ? Holding Capacity = 55% Stronger than stock clutch http://www.shaneracing.com/RX8_Clutch_Flywheels.html Racing Beat Sport/Race $163 disk only Hub - Sprung Puck - 6 Holding Capacity = http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm Racing Beat Race $113 disk only Hub - Solid Puck - 6 Holding Capacity = http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm *****Unorthodox Clutch Kits***** Info from horsepowerfreaks.com unless otherwise noted. http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pric...ls/Clutch_Kits Unorthodox Ultra Grip - Stage 1 Segmented Ceramic Sprung Hub $661.98 Hub - Sprung Puck - Segmented Holding Capacity = ? Unorthodox Ultra Grip - Stage 1 Segmented Solid Hub Bronze $590.58 Hub - Solid Puck - Segmented Holding Capacity = ? Unorthodox Ultra Grip - Stage 1 Solid Hub Full Face Kevlar $457.98 Hub - Solid Puck - Full Holding Capacity = ? Unorthodox Ultra Grip - Stage 1 Solid Hub Windowed Kevlar $457.98 Hub - Solid Puck - Windowed Holding Capacity = ? Unorthodox Ultra Grip - Stage 1 Sprung Hub Full Face Kevlar $539.58 Hub - Sprung Puck - Full Holding Capacity = ? Unorthodox Ultra Grip - Stage 1 Sprung Hub Windowed Kevlar $539.58 Hub - Sprung Puck - Windowed Holding Capacity = ? UnorthodoxUltra Grip - Stage 2 Solid Hub 4 Paddle Ceramic $386.58 Hub - Solid Puck - 4 paddle Holding Capacity = ? Unorthodox Ultra Grip - Stage 2 Solid Hub 6 Paddle Ceramic $417.18 Hub - Solid Puck - 6 paddle Holding Capacity = ? |
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thread has been updated, thanks again Cesar.
man we sure have a lot of blanks to fill in. none the less, this is a lot of info in one place. WAY to many clutches for a car that has a decent clutch in it from the factory. unless you are pushing MAJOR power, I dont see the point in moving up to some of those solid hubs like I have sitting in my garage.. they just wont make a differance in a stock H.P. street driven car. I think a nice sprung hub stage 1 or 2 would be more then enough on your car Cesar. |
oh yeah, and yes I know that the links are not working, I will get these fixed ASAP, just not enought ime right now at work.
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This is what happens when you have too much torque on the stock clutch. I wasn't even pushing it when it happened.
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damn.... not a single spring survived
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he he, your clutch blowed up!
I have had a lot of clutch related failures, but not one clutch disk failure yet. many pilot bearing, throwout bearing, problems in my last RX-7. even a bunch of destroyed trannys.... but never a clutch disk failure yet (knock on wood) |
excuse my inexperience, but what part is in Moostafa's third pic? Moostafa, which company/product did you end up going with when you replaced the destroyed stock clutch?
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I went with the ACT Heavy Duty. I'm not really sure how a clutch really functions either, but I know those are all the springs aren't supposed to be detached.
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that is the hub part of a clutch disk. (sprung hub) the reason it looks so odd is because it is missing the rest of the clutch disk.(the friction half) as seen in picture 2.
pictures 2 goes with picture 3. |
Originally Posted by Moostafa29
I went with the ACT Heavy Duty. I'm not really sure how a clutch really functions either, but I know those are all the springs aren't supposed to be detached.
Am I correct in this poor explanation Speed? From your pictures, it looks like there was too much force applied to the clutch, and one of the springs broke...this probably lead to the rest of them failing. With your turbo setup, you definately need one that can take more torque. The ACT Heavy duty will be good for a turbo setup I would think. |
not bad Kwescott.
the solid hub is not the ONLY determining factor in how rough a clutch is engaged... the friction material, puck design, and driving style all play a part. but naturally the solid hub is much more harsh then a solid hub. and yes you were correct about the function of a srung hub. |
hey guys, i think i might need to change my clutch and i think i am going to change my flywheel at the same time. see the reason i am going to change my clutch is that everytime i launch severely on those very high rpms i tend to smell this burning smell. i always thought it would be my tires but a few days ago i was trying to learn how to slow down my car witout using the breaks so i went into lower gears so it can slow down my car. yet, for some reason it was makin that similar burning smell as wen i launch my car. im not sure, but is that my clutch thats makin the smell or wat is it?
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yes that is your clutch frying, keep up the same driving habbits with your new clutch and you'll always have to be replacing it every so often.
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damn that sucks. i dont even redline my car that often. i've been decreasing the times i redline my car. probably like 3-4 times a week? damn... well now that i KNOW FORSURE that my clutch is fried, i was wondering what clutch you guys would recommend? i am going to later install the zex wet nitrous kit and probably put the 65/75 hp shot. and also i am going to put the clutch with the act prolite flywheel. any recommnedations?? thanks guys:)
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Originally Posted by FABRO
yes that is your clutch frying, keep up the same driving habbits with your new clutch and you'll always have to be replacing it every so often.
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!!! I got my ACT combo package in.
thank you www.rx7store.net i'm sure you've all seen pics, so unless you wanna see a photo other than the advertised ones, i guess ask or something, or I can post them on here if someone wants to see the goods. Until then, I can't wait to install it. :smoker: |
Originally Posted by CohdeyTakahashi
!!! I got my ACT combo package in.
thank you www.rx7store.net i'm sure you've all seen pics, so unless you wanna see a photo other than the advertised ones, i guess ask or something, or I can post them on here if someone wants to see the goods. Until then, I can't wait to install it. :smoker: Any opinions on the ACT Street setup, is it a good aftermarket option, it it worth the $$. I do track the car, so I need something that can stand up to the demands that being on track presents, since I am sure that it had something to do with what I would call a little early wear on my stock clutch. TIA. |
Im wondering the same thing.
I think the Street clutch kit would be fine right ? and whats the diffs between the Xtreme Pressure plate and the Heavy Duty one ? I know the Xtreme one can handle more power but is it going to be harder on the legs as well ? Also I wonder if its ok to use them for F.I ? Cuz Im going to Turbo my car as soon as my warranty is out. |
Originally Posted by L8APEX
Have you installed it yet? I am in the market for a new clutchafter almost 60K miles. It is getting harder to get the car in gear, and when moving in reverse, I now have to come to a complete stop to get it out of reverse, so that I can proceed with moving forward.
Any opinions on the ACT Street setup, is it a good aftermarket option, it it worth the $$. I do track the car, so I need something that can stand up to the demands that being on track presents, since I am sure that it had something to do with what I would call a little early wear on my stock clutch. TIA. I saw a vid on mazdatrix.com where a girl uses a hammer, but the engine is out, and that's a lot of working. Gonna wait for my friends to finish up with their 7's so we can find a puller and do this. The clutch is really great though. Makes some noise for the first 300 miles, then it slightly goes away. But you can feel the difference pretty well, and I love it. I loved it the day I drove out. Couldn't drive it til the next morning though because the car wouldn't go into reverse, we poured the gear oil through the top (shifter), it must of taken a while to get to the back, but it's really smooth now. I recommend it. It's not heavier, I find it easier to engage than the stock clutch. It doesn't fully engine until about half way down (depressed, and disengages about 2-2 1/2 inches from the floor (sorry, dunno the technical terms). I really love it. sorry so late :wiggle: -Cody :smoker: |
Originally Posted by nycgps
Im wondering the same thing.
I think the Street clutch kit would be fine right ? and whats the diffs between the Xtreme Pressure plate and the Heavy Duty one ? I know the Xtreme one can handle more power but is it going to be harder on the legs as well ? Also I wonder if its ok to use them for F.I ? Cuz Im going to Turbo my car as soon as my warranty is out. |
Originally Posted by Moostafa29
This is what happens when you have too much torque on the stock clutch. I wasn't even pushing it when it happened.
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Has anyone run a Centerforce clutch yet?
Curious as to if they utilize the weights on the clutch for the 8. I have heard that they make excellent clutches. "It is what they do." |
well i just ordered in a centerforce clutch "KIT" and it was pressure plate and disk. no throw out bearing, no alignment tool, no pilot bearing nothing. thats bullshit and i'm pissed so i may send back
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Hmm those parts aren't too expensive and can be purchased from the dealer.
How much did you it cost for the kit and which one did you get? |
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