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I have had my best luck using OEM parts set to blueprint clearance specs, even with the decommissioned Star Series engines I have been building lately.
Yeah, no more aftermarket seals for me unless I'm 100% sure they're up to the job, learnt that lesson...
I purchased my RX-8 to be my irresponsible toy, so I'm definitely interested in buying one of these. I'm totally OK with it being loud. I can't imagine it being worse than my old 2001 13psi supercharged Focus with no proper mufflers and a 4-2-1 header. It's just going to take some time for me. I've got some other toys I'm saving up for first, like my first guitar (an acoustic), then on to exhaust and anti-roll bars for my 2014 Mazda3 daily driver. After that, I'm hoping to get back to saving for RX-8 parts.
You are free to offer a competing product, Douchy, and you are correct; until then you are offering yada-yada-yada BS.
That's Mr Douche to you
Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Allow me to add that, since you clearly have no idea what entails the design/manufacturing/retail process, you also fail to recognize that if your suspicion is correct, the end result will still cost the same to produce and will require everything I provide with my version of a header for the RX-8. To simply switch to a 3" exit with short primaries will take the same amount of fabrication labor and will require one to include a header-specific midpipe. Removing 54" of primary tubing will lower the production cost by a mere few dollars.
But, as usual, you really do not think things through.
While your getting small quantities of custom parts build for you to sell out of your garage I done the same on a larger scale for $Mega Million businesses. Coming from Ford yourself I would not expect you to know better than to make such a silly statement, but also do a better job at it yourself.
I built my first RX8 header back in 2006 and it made same or better power than you are claiming. Further, it has little to do with cost. I have stated since then, there is no purpose to having long tubes except for "marketing fluff". OK, you never bothered to test it out. I get it. That was my point.
I think plenty through. I can see several easy improvements to your system and also a big pitfall that will only likely be realized in time. I thought about suggesting them over in Carbon8's thread, but you always make it clear that your product is beyond reproach. Speaking of that thread, nice QC job BTW. The tube misalignment issue was so obvious in the photograph it almost makes you wonder if anyone bothered to open the box and look at it before sending it off to the buyer.
I could critique the overall fab work quality in general, but I suppose you'll also try to say that I also have no understanding of metal fabrication either. I'm baffled that you will always claim I have no idea about you or anything in general, but you always have me and everything else under the sun pegged to a tee. Go figure ...
So I just want to make sure I have this right. Your supporting evidence that the header works is a dyno of an RX8 with a completely stock exhaust system making 99 rwhp and then replacing the OE manifold and cat pipe with your header let it jump up to 155 rwhp? That's simply amazing ... but maybe not starting with a weak engine and plugged OE cat might have been a more accurate representation.
There is no war. That's why I never understand why the responses always seem to go so nuclear. I just finally figured if that's where you want to go then I'll go along in the post you're referring to. I'd rather not go there actually.
I'll put my fab & welding skill up against anyone, any day. Same for racing. Instead of touting off about your sponsored drivers just slap a helmet on, pick your car, and let's have at it mano a mano. Then maybe we can have a rational discussion about whether the results are due to driver skill, car, products, etc.
Or you could just stop viewing my every discussion post as a virulent attack against BHR. For the record, I don't bad-mouth *you* to anyone. I regularly recommend BHR to people, or provide it as an option among several vendors I might suggest.
12-13-2014, 12:30 PM
