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Old 01-19-2006, 06:09 PM
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ok ur puleys be in tomorrow then i dyno them next weekend to give u guys a rx8 clum members dyno numbers on them
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I don't know that it means anything, did your PCM readjust to them etc. blah blah blah ...
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The RB single had to come off for daily street driving - way to loud with the RP midpipe. I'm back to the other heavy catback LOL
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
The RB single had to come off for daily street driving - way to loud with the RP midpipe. I'm back to the other heavy catback LOL
what it look like? i havent seen it yet...

**edit** jus checked.. eh.. looks kinda funky..to me

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Old 01-19-2006, 08:12 PM
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You know what? I think a lot of people are way too picky about dyno's. I can understand that there is a little difference in days done etc, but still. It's a good basline. I know the Renesis has incredible output for its size and everything, but still, dynos are pretty self evident.
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I don't really trust vendor dynos. They have too much to gain for putting out higher numbers. A few of the things I bought, the vendor dynos said one thing, and they always registered drastically lower. I trust posters on this board, but when a product gets several dynos by people on the board so much the better. RX Tuner & Polak have much better methods of dynoing product. On several of their tests they literally leave the car in the same position on the dyno vs. some of these other vendor dynos where you notice that the seperate dynos were performed 6 months apart in completely different conditions & were not normalized/standardized.
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interested to see the results here.
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hey Nem your pipes are pretty white--not carboned--you running lean?
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Above 6200 I'm at 13.2 AFR with the CZ

That's an old pic I think. Right now they are dirty as hell. Over 30 days of rain and I can't keep the car clean. The pipes are filthy at the moment.
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been there done that. I did like that side affect (less carbon)with my cz unit. Unfortunaly I didnt know enough about tuning to get the thing to work the way I wanted on the track--so I sold it. I still think in the hands of a knowledgable person it can be made to work well. 13.2 is nice and conservative but will get you some gains--good work
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Well, just got back from the dyno, and with the cz and pulleys, I broke 200 corrected at the wheels. I should have the data log file tonight.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Well, just got back from the dyno, and with the cz and pulleys, I broke 200 corrected at the wheels. I should have the data log file tonight.
Dude, great! cant wait for the graph. So did you happen to do a pre-pulley, post-pulley but pre-cz, then post pulley+post-cz?
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Not exactly...

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-multimedia-photo-gallery-6/northwest-rx8-dyno-day-pics-etc-81240/

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nice, I gotta think the pulleys are responsible for some of that, more than some people here claim
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
nice, I gotta think the pulleys are responsible for some of that, more than some people here claim
This is purely questionable. Until somebody baselines, installs pullies, then dynos again you can't make that assumption. Or runs a dyno that normlizes for condition. Nemesis was already in the 190's from his previous mods. So getting 200+ whp from even just his CZ & tuning would be easyily understandable. With some of the other cars, the CZ was delivering 12-25 whp with just the unit itself.
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Originally Posted by Fanman
This is purely questionable. Until somebody baselines, installs pullies, then dynos again you can't make that assumption. Or runs a dyno that normlizes for condition. Nemesis was already in the 190's from his previous mods. So getting 200+ whp from even just his CZ & tuning would be easyily understandable. With some of the other cars, the CZ was delivering 12-25 whp with just the unit itself.
^^^^Pulley H8er!!!

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I've seen planty of CZ units not make any power, even tuned the supplier has some pretty wild claims IMO

note he said the ignition was zeroed and a base fuel map, so in this case it wasn't tuned at all
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Sorry I could not give a comparison dyno - just did not have the time. But TeamRX8 is right - it was not tuned completely. The ECU was pulling timing, so I need to get my wideband installed and tune this setup with both fuel and ignition maps.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
I've seen planty of CZ units not make any power, even tuned the supplier has some pretty wild claims IMO

note he said the ignition was zeroed and a base fuel map, so in this case it wasn't tuned at all
I agree that CZ's claims were pretty wild. I did question other people when they had a 25 hp gain with stage 1 & a 40 hp claim with stage 2. But 12-25 hp (tuned) seems about the norm (norm being a very wide gap as you can see). And I did get 1-2 hp from my pullies.

Nemesis, good job. Congratulations on getting over the 200 whp hump NA.

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Old 01-22-2006, 10:19 AM
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Thanks - I think I can get better with proper tuning. After this NA setup is complete with the proper header, I'll run it until the blowers are all out, then go Supercharged Renesis

I'll drive down the Coast and look you up for some R&R in the Sun
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FYI, I may offer my RE Amemiya header up for sale soon ...
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