Aluminum Oil Pan
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Aluminum Oil Pan
Hi guys, i'm new to this forum. a friend of mine gave it to me. i just got a turbo kit for my rx-8. however i wasn't too happy with the greddy kit because unlike there other kits for the 350z or other cars, this one didn't come with an oil pan. i did a shearch on the internet. for any one that has an aluminum oil pan. i came up a company in Nj call Acosta Motorsports.com they have one. They send me a picture, and wanted to know if you guys think it's worth it.
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Nice but it looks like you may need to put heavier springs in the front.
They can make those walls a lot thinner. Espesially the baffles. They can do this easy enough by changing the tool offset. If you buy one ask them for an option, costs them nothing.
Once the original program is made they can do anything they want to it. Even on a custom basis. It's not going to be a high volume item. That's alot of chip making and it's not cheap. Just the peice of aluminum is more than you pay for a stock pan. Then the expensive part, making chips.
They can make those walls a lot thinner. Espesially the baffles. They can do this easy enough by changing the tool offset. If you buy one ask them for an option, costs them nothing.
Once the original program is made they can do anything they want to it. Even on a custom basis. It's not going to be a high volume item. That's alot of chip making and it's not cheap. Just the peice of aluminum is more than you pay for a stock pan. Then the expensive part, making chips.
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i ask them that same question. However even though the walls are thicker. the oil pan is all 6061 aluminum. it take one more quart of oil and it's lighter than the factory on
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Where can we source the original Greddy Oil Pan?
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=40674
From shwarf1's post: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...postcount=1282
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...chmentid=40674
From shwarf1's post: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...postcount=1282
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I am about to call my contact at Greddy to order my turbo kit. I, too, would like the GReddy oil pan so I'll get a part number and price for you guys.
BTW, Acosta was the shop that was telling people a year ago that the Renesis couldn't handle more than 300 h.p. but, for $5,000, they could prep it for you. I wonder what their opinion is now that we have several turbos and a few nitrous kits going?
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BTW, Acosta was the shop that was telling people a year ago that the Renesis couldn't handle more than 300 h.p. but, for $5,000, they could prep it for you. I wonder what their opinion is now that we have several turbos and a few nitrous kits going?
CRH
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Yea. I'm not planning on goin over 6 psi. i dont think my engine would make 300hp to the wheels at that psi. I still haven't seen a stock renesis go over that much power yet. have u? Couple of guys here in Australia have try to go cracy with the boost and power and all have failed. However after they go in the motor, i have seen good power.
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I can only give you speculative horsepower figures based on G-Tech measurements and net h.p. readings but I may be over 300 h.p. at the fly with a 55 shot of nitrous. My G is reading 280 "net' h.p. Net h.p. is the power which actually moves the car after wheelspin is experienced. I figure since I am smoking the tires through first gear and halfway through second and still running 12.7's the 280 h.p. is very conservative. I also have an SR 9.75 lb. flywheel so my drivetrain loss is probably around 25 h.p. as opposed to the factory loss of 40+/- h.p. With those figures in mind I would say thay I may be in the 305+ h.p. range at the flywheel. More specific numbers will be published in the next few weeks when I install my turbo kit and dyno-tune it using a Dynapack wheel dyno. I'll be shooting for 7 psi and a 100 shot. I'm crossing my fingers.
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I'm sorry Charles I thought I had answered that PM. It's an interesting option if there were absolutly no way you could do a standard drive. And of course there was the money for the extra hardware.
Now this could get interesting if there were some way of electronicly controling the speed based on some of those famous "maps". There is in this instance usable real estate for the compressor. It could be easier though.
The real promising drive would be a OEM type thing as only they can afford the development. Several years ago there was some scuttle about a CVT drive from ZF in Germany. It was of a size that would work for me. The crowning facet of this would be to improve it with electronics. Instead of giving a constant volosity it would give a variable drive speed based on inputs from the ECU.
I have no idea of the cost of this thing but in OEM numbers prices come down. This could give my supercharger the luxury of an adjustable boost curve. Loading at low RPM, lifting at peak torque, then upping boost again as engine eff goes down. That would be the best of all worlds for the OEM. Complete control as they are trying to do now.
If you have the power to do that, then ask them to fund my homoginization research. These are usable and practical theorys. When you consider the stuff that gets funded now, by not just them but worse, the GOVmit.
I want to finish my research, do you hear me George W? Tell thiose guys at Energy Related Devices to call me.
Now this could get interesting if there were some way of electronicly controling the speed based on some of those famous "maps". There is in this instance usable real estate for the compressor. It could be easier though.
The real promising drive would be a OEM type thing as only they can afford the development. Several years ago there was some scuttle about a CVT drive from ZF in Germany. It was of a size that would work for me. The crowning facet of this would be to improve it with electronics. Instead of giving a constant volosity it would give a variable drive speed based on inputs from the ECU.
I have no idea of the cost of this thing but in OEM numbers prices come down. This could give my supercharger the luxury of an adjustable boost curve. Loading at low RPM, lifting at peak torque, then upping boost again as engine eff goes down. That would be the best of all worlds for the OEM. Complete control as they are trying to do now.
If you have the power to do that, then ask them to fund my homoginization research. These are usable and practical theorys. When you consider the stuff that gets funded now, by not just them but worse, the GOVmit.
I want to finish my research, do you hear me George W? Tell thiose guys at Energy Related Devices to call me.
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■グレッディ 大容量オイルパンキット/MAZDA RX-8
車輌型式 年式 E/G型式 税込価格 税抜価格 CODE
LA-SE3P 03.4~ 13B-MSP(RENESIS) \34,125 \32,500 13543501
• アルミ鋳物 オイル容量約600ccアップ
• オイルドレーン2ヶ付き(内1ヶT/Kオイルリターンに使用可)
• オイル容量アップによりエンジンオイルの安定化,T/K装着時オイル交換メンテナンス性向上
http://www.trust-power.com/02greddy/...grade_kit.html
■グレッディ Bulk oil pan kit/MAZDA RX-8
Car 輌 type Year system E/GType Price including tax Tax removal price CODE
LA-SE3P 03.4~ 13B-MSP (RENESIS) \34,125 \32,500 13543501
Aluminum molding Oil capacity approximately600ccRise
Oil drain2Attachment(Inside1T/KIn oil return use yes)
With oil capacity rise stabilization of the motor oilT/KWhen installing with respect to oil exchange maintenance propensity
Whatever that means
車輌型式 年式 E/G型式 税込価格 税抜価格 CODE
LA-SE3P 03.4~ 13B-MSP(RENESIS) \34,125 \32,500 13543501
• アルミ鋳物 オイル容量約600ccアップ
• オイルドレーン2ヶ付き(内1ヶT/Kオイルリターンに使用可)
• オイル容量アップによりエンジンオイルの安定化,T/K装着時オイル交換メンテナンス性向上
http://www.trust-power.com/02greddy/...grade_kit.html
■グレッディ Bulk oil pan kit/MAZDA RX-8
Car 輌 type Year system E/GType Price including tax Tax removal price CODE
LA-SE3P 03.4~ 13B-MSP (RENESIS) \34,125 \32,500 13543501
Aluminum molding Oil capacity approximately600ccRise
Oil drain2Attachment(Inside1T/KIn oil return use yes)
With oil capacity rise stabilization of the motor oilT/KWhen installing with respect to oil exchange maintenance propensity
Whatever that means
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How many of you guys want this thing? It's not a hard part to make, it's just a big chunk of ali. Hate to think of scraping any while developing the program.
It's only a two operation part.
Give me the overall size of the thing so we can get a material price. Boy, this might be carrying the billet craze a little far.
I could make a pattern but I don't think the volume is there.
One more thing, what are they selling for? If there is no profit in it you're on your own. This is a for profit company. At least we hope so.
It's only a two operation part.
Give me the overall size of the thing so we can get a material price. Boy, this might be carrying the billet craze a little far.
I could make a pattern but I don't think the volume is there.
One more thing, what are they selling for? If there is no profit in it you're on your own. This is a for profit company. At least we hope so.
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Originally Posted by youngpit
■グレッディ 大容量オイルパンキット/MAZDA RX-8
車輌型式 年式 E/G型式 税込価格 税抜価格 CODE
LA-SE3P 03.4~ 13B-MSP(RENESIS) \34,125 \32,500 13543501
• アルミ鋳物 オイル容量約600ccアップ
• オイルドレーン2ヶ付き(内1ヶT/Kオイルリターンに使用可)
• オイル容量アップによりエンジンオイルの安定化,T/K装着時オイル交換メンテナンス性向上
http://www.trust-power.com/02greddy/...grade_kit.html
■グレッディ Bulk oil pan kit/MAZDA RX-8
Car 輌 type Year system E/GType Price including tax Tax removal price CODE
LA-SE3P 03.4~ 13B-MSP (RENESIS) \34,125 \32,500 13543501
Aluminum molding Oil capacity approximately600ccRise
Oil drain2Attachment(Inside1T/KIn oil return use yes)
With oil capacity rise stabilization of the motor oilT/KWhen installing with respect to oil exchange maintenance propensity
Whatever that means
車輌型式 年式 E/G型式 税込価格 税抜価格 CODE
LA-SE3P 03.4~ 13B-MSP(RENESIS) \34,125 \32,500 13543501
• アルミ鋳物 オイル容量約600ccアップ
• オイルドレーン2ヶ付き(内1ヶT/Kオイルリターンに使用可)
• オイル容量アップによりエンジンオイルの安定化,T/K装着時オイル交換メンテナンス性向上
http://www.trust-power.com/02greddy/...grade_kit.html
■グレッディ Bulk oil pan kit/MAZDA RX-8
Car 輌 type Year system E/GType Price including tax Tax removal price CODE
LA-SE3P 03.4~ 13B-MSP (RENESIS) \34,125 \32,500 13543501
Aluminum molding Oil capacity approximately600ccRise
Oil drain2Attachment(Inside1T/KIn oil return use yes)
With oil capacity rise stabilization of the motor oilT/KWhen installing with respect to oil exchange maintenance propensity
Whatever that means
- 2 Oil drains (1 can be used as the oil return for the turbo kit)
- When installing the turbo kits, the increase in oil volume improves engine oil maintenance.
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Waitng for weight results.
How much are we going to save in weight?
Need to know my return on investment.
So now your increaing the weight of the car cause your carrying two more quarts of oil.
So what's the net net?
Can you make a stamped RX 8 logo?
How much are we going to save in weight?
Need to know my return on investment.
So now your increaing the weight of the car cause your carrying two more quarts of oil.
So what's the net net?
Can you make a stamped RX 8 logo?
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Originally Posted by Japan8
- 2 Oil drains (1 can be used as the oil return for the turbo kit)
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I think that is just plain ghetto, aside from the engineering implications. But where else can we put the return line?
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
I can't believe they tell people this. You should never have an oil return below the oil level in the pan. This will kill your turbo.
The pics of the pan in the article/test on the final GReddy kit looks like it has two holes on one side near the bottom and one hole on the other side near the top. You draw your own conclusions.
Price was listed in the Japanese posting... it said something like 34,000 yen.