Xyntax

Is it just me or does it look like a quick-job? No research or test going on, just grab an existing model and modify the tubes to fit the RX-8. Sorta like what K&N did with their first idiotic filter (Short-ram-hot-air-intake).

Moostafa29

I know AEM normally puts out quality products. They do a lot of testing before they put stuff out. I can't see them half assing it with cai. As long as it took them to release it, I doubt they'd want their reputation with us to be any worse than it is.

TeamRX8

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I'm surprised that nobody has tried the AEM computer, I keep waiting for a writeup

lurch519

designing an intake is a very complex process. anyone can take a couple of tubes and make an "intake".

what really takes time is designing an intake that will actually yield the most gains. what length tubing, what diameter, what bends, etc. lots of trial and error. a matter of an inch can be the difference between making 5 hp or losing 5 hp.

as to the aem ems, i was speaking with a tech over at aem about it, and even though they dont make a direct plug and play and arent looking to do one anytime soon (we all know that the computer in the 8 is very complex), the universal ems would be more than capable of doing the job. it would be a matter of integrating it with the 8 and creating a good map. i am actually looking at the possibilities, but there is a lot that has to be looked at. it would be a pretty big investment just for the unit, even for me being an aem dealer, then there would be the time to integrate it and create map.

ZoomZoomH

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man that filter is way exposed to the outside, running over a large puddle definitely poses a high risk of soaking that filter!

ddub

Why would you need a bypass valve for a rotary? It doesn't hydro-lock like a piston engine! I've heard that it IS possible to hydro-lock a rotary, but never seen or heard of it before personally. A common thing to do for 2nd gen rx7 owners is to unplug a vac line and have it injest water straight into the engine to clean the carbon, called the "water trick." This is WAY more water than the AEM intake would ever injest, and people do this without any issues at all except for a rough idle until all the water/steam is gone.

Besides, for any CAI to injest anywhere close to the amount of water it'd need to hydro-lock a rotary it would have to be completely submerged under water for an extended period of time with the engine still running, if it could even stay running. If that happens, you already have some problems anyways.

lurch519

driving in rain poses a high risk of soaking the stock filter in the stock intake box.

ZoomZoomH

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righto

Xyntax

I wouldn't be surprised if AEM (if they're serious about the RX-8 market) would redesign something better in the near future and scrap this one. AEM does have good reputation with their products, especially for Hondas. But that's what I've been stressing in the past, they're serious about the Honda market and therefore create better products for them. For the RX-8? They're about as serious as the $20 CAI chip found on ebay. I really hope they turn around someday.

For now, I'll stay away and stick with Racing Beat.

Moostafa29

What are you basing this on? The way the pipe looks?

crossbow

Why? They did with the mazda 6's. First they openly bashed Injen on the forum, saying how they properly engineered their intake, and it won't throw a check engine light like injen's did.

What happend? Check engine lights up the wazzo. Suddenly all the AEM reps disppear off the board, and we never hear from them again.

I'd consider aem's testing to be as in-depth as buying stamps at the post office...

"oooh there's more then one color????"

I don't think i need to bring up the 3si.org forums, where the AEM EMS updates are responsible for a good amount of destroyed engines due to lack of testing the updates prior to them being released. EA anyone?

lurch519

not taking any sides on that one, as i dont know the whole story, but were those maps ones that aem posted, or ones that users posted on aem's forum?

TeamRX8

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Modacar is advertising it as plug & play specifically for the RX-8

lurch519

thats funny. i checked out the modacar website, and it seems that the unit is listed for the rx-8, but if you look at the year, it is 00-02. if you check aem's website, you will see that there is no application for the PnP ems. aem also said that they weren't looking at developing a unit anytime soon.

spictacula

i would like to see what the intake produces as soon as someone gets a dyno

lurch519

well, went to order mine today, and my distributor says aem is all out of em till the 22nd. argh.

crossbow

lurch,

It was an AEM EMS update that AEM released. There was a major issue in the upper rev range with the software update suddenly pulling the fuel back...They released an update soon after...but it was one of those "oops" jobs, and if you read the fine print, they aren't responsible for engine destruction. (My father owns a 91 dodge stealth heavily modified with an AEM EMS...luckily he caught what was going on in time).

Jon

I dont understand this post..... AEM would never release a half-assed product for any reason. Why do you think it took them 1 year to design it? They redesigned it many many times to build an intake to make power and look good. To my knowledge there intake makes the most horsepower. I even asked AEM just to make sure and they said it took longer to design the rx8 intake than it did for almost any other car they have made intakes for. Just thought I'd let you know.

Jon
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davefzr

Try and upload those videos.. I would love to hear how it sounds.

Mikelikes2drive

AEM did a lot of research and if i remember correctly they kept us updated pretty well, but they did go missing for quite a while. BUT if they were gonna release a half *** product, they wouldn't have waited a full year to do so. They already had one fitted on an 8 long ago, but decided to hold off.

And after driving in a car with an AEM intake on the 8, it did have a smooth idol and there was no cell

crossbow

Just because it takes a product a year to come out, doesn't mean they spent an entire year on its development.

DC Sports worked on the headers for the mazda 6 for about 2-3 weeks...but it won't be out for many more months...doesn't mean they're still working on the headers, they are just working on setting up the production/CARB cert, etc etc. The R+D process is pretty quick and short. Its the marketing, certifications, production, and advertising that takes up the bulk of the time.

eclps0

i want to hear a vido and sound clips if ya got it

kw1k

so do we have any dyno results?

swoope

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why not k&n did. so far if it anything like a tube and a filter it does not work.

beers

IZoomZoomI

Kn is pretty new to the import market. Aem has been here for a while supporting the import industry. Not saying anything about this intake only but in general they make pretty good products. But I would probably still lean more on rb since they devote solely to rotary engines.