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Wax Test (Zaino, Zymol, Meguiar's)

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Old 01-08-2006, 09:23 PM
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The gloss enhancer is the Z6, but labop skipped it, so I dunno. I think I'll get it anyway. Thanks for the warning
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I'm ordering the kit it seems to have everything you need...

Zaino Kit

Question for zaino users, is there anything else that you would recommend that does not come with this kit?
Old 01-08-2006, 11:33 PM
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yeah, ZPC, its the next gen Z5, its better. besides that you have everything you need, thats the same one I got. you can do at least a dozen layers with this kit.
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Zaino rocks. It is, by far, the best polish system I've ever used. BUT -- now that Roxy has lost her garage spot to the GTO and gets parked outside, I've given up on Zaino for her -- too expensive. I've switched to Meguiar's Tech Wax; I don't like it as much as Zaino but it's more economical.

The garage queens (GTO and '00 Miata) are still Zaino babies.
Old 01-09-2006, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggerlee
I kinda feel out of place.....I use Liquid Glass.
that makes two of us!
Old 01-09-2006, 05:26 PM
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Old 01-09-2006, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
The gloss enhancer is the Z6, but labop skipped it, so I dunno. I think I'll get it anyway. Thanks for the warning
Yeah, get it. I use Z6 after a good polish to clean off any residue and it makes it shine. I also use it between polishes as a quick shine.

Recently bought the new Z8. Real pricey but is does what Z6 does only better. Sal Zaino said its like "Z6 on steroids". I had some money to burn so WTH.

I use:

ZFX Flash Cure Accelerator Additive

Z-2 PRO Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Car Finishes
Z-6 Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer Spray

Z-7 Show Car Wash
Z-8 Grand Finale Spray Seal

Z-18 ClayBar

Really fine products all of them
Old 01-09-2006, 07:07 PM
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Yea, I ordered the Z6 yesterday, along with the Z-PC (i'm sick of swirls), ZFX and Z-2. I think I'll stick with my current car wash, shouldn't be a big deal.
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Originally Posted by Raptor2k
Yea, I ordered the Z6 yesterday, along with the Z-PC (i'm sick of swirls), ZFX and Z-2. I think I'll stick with my current car wash, shouldn't be a big deal.
Be careful about the car wash - you don't want to remove the zaino that you spent so much time and effort applying the next time you wash.

Zaino is acid resistant (so it protects against acid rain) but is washed off by bases. You don't want to use a wash that has a base ph.

It's been a year and a half since I did the full zaino treatment and I use zaino's wash. Still looks and feels great.
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BTW, I coated my winter wheels with 2 coats of Zaino Z-2 Pro (and Z6 in between and at the end) according to this advice from Sal Zaino and:

1) there's less brake dust and dirt sticking to the wheels. Now, it's winter time so there's still plenty of crap, but it's still nicer.
2) wheel are shiny/nicer when clean and nicer when not as clean
3) all the brake dust, dirt, yellowing crap, etc comes RIGHT OFF with just a wipe with car shampoo! (in my case, QEW) i **** you not. no scrubbing or harsher action, except for road tar. i don't use wheel cleaner (because most are too strong for the wax), but i don't really need to: just wipe the wheels w/ a watery/soapy towel/mitt.

so i am going to put like three coats of zaino on my summer wheels this spring.
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best car wax has to be "liquid lustre" i saw it on a car show and got me 4 bottles. i had 3 cars and just ran out the year i got the 8. tryed buying some online the guy stole the money. sad i cant find it on a local autozone...
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Originally Posted by beachdog
Be careful about the car wash - you don't want to remove the zaino that you spent so much time and effort applying the next time you wash.

Zaino is acid resistant (so it protects against acid rain) but is washed off by bases. You don't want to use a wash that has a base ph.

It's been a year and a half since I did the full zaino treatment and I use zaino's wash. Still looks and feels great.
thx for the heads up
Old 01-10-2006, 09:08 AM
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I use Meguiar's Gold Class, though it's the thicker paste (in a can) versus the liquid bottled stuff used in the test. Not sure if that makes a difference. I'm pretty disappointed with how the Meguiar's performed in the test. I haven't noticed that short of longevity with my wax yet... but I applied it shortly before winter, so my car has been mostly in the garage for the past couple of months. If my Gold Class wears off as easily as that in the test, I may just have to switch to Zaino...
Old 01-10-2006, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by valpac
Just more evidence of the best stuff. Zaino's longevity is second to none.
Actually, it seems to be the original evidence. I've seen it referenced all over the place. That one guy's backyard test is probably ultimately responsible for 80% of Zaino customers. The other 20% seems to be from personal conversations with "Sal". Lol. I'm sure it's great stuff. I enjoy using Zymol.
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How many coats can you get out the 8oz zaino bottle?
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more than a dozen if youre good. the thinner the layers the better it looks
Old 01-11-2006, 01:46 PM
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I use a combination of Meguiar's and Mother's carnuba. The Meguiar's cleaner and polish give the car a great wet look, but the Mother's makes a harder finish that lasts longer than the Meguiar's. I used this combo on my last car for all of the ten years that I owned it, and when I sold the car it had a very nice factory fresh finish on it, although I never garaged the car. Stuff rocks.
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I just waxed my '8 for the first time. Being as money is short (thus no Zaino) and I wanted to get wax on it asap, I went off in search of Liquid Glass. Apparently the closest NAPA store that carries it is Jacksonville, so I went with Meguires Tech Wax instead. I think I was out in the parking lot in front of my college gym for about an hour, hour and a half.

Some lady saw me and said that since we both had "cute cars" I should wax hers next (it was an Audi TT) and then some kids walked by and didn't see me, only that I took up 4 parking spaces and referred to me as an @$$hole, but then saw me crouched behind my '8 and hopefully changed their minds.

Overall, it looks really good despite me finding a small chip in the paint (and I don't even have 1,000 miles on it yet!) it looks great. Might do a second layer tomorrow depending on what it looks like and the weather. Hopefully it will last for a good while.

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Well a buddy of mine who swears by zymol wants to do a test and put it against zaino. I already know what Meguiars can do so this weekend we are going to zymol my 8 and his acura with his wax. (I get free wax!!!!) We will then in about a month or two try zaino and see how it goes. I'll keep updating this post as I go along. I'll post pics as well...
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Shine for a RX8

1. Clay if nessesary
2. Polish Menzerna Final Polish II or Intensive polish
3. ClearKote Red Moose Glaze
4. Pinnacle Souveran Wax

5. Wait 24 hrs apply another coat of PS Wax

6. buy some good sunglasses because you will need them!
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Meguiar's. Great shine, long lasting.
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I have always used Meguiars. I used to use the gold class paste. Now I use the NXT liquid wax. I do notice it wears off very fast. In fact after the first rain it usually doesn't feel much different than before I waxed it. And I usually do 2 coats. After reading that I'm going to give Zaino a try.
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sorry guys i'm an nxt man and i will als be faithful till they let me down .a friend of mine has a 05 corvette and he is a zaino man .last summer we did 1/2 his car in nxt and 1/2 in zaino.he is now a nxt fan.
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I believe I am going back to NXT on my Brilliant Black. I dont have a garage and the constant need for washing and waxing in Florida is not very Zaino friendly. I need to be able to wash and wax my car before 10am.

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Originally Posted by rkostolni
I have always used Meguiars. I used to use the gold class paste. Now I use the NXT liquid wax. I do notice it wears off very fast. In fact after the first rain it usually doesn't feel much different than before I waxed it. And I usually do 2 coats. After reading that I'm going to give Zaino a try.
not sure about the nxt because I have never used it but, if it is a onestep cleaner/polish, you are wasting your time with multiple coats. Products like zaino be layered because they have no cleaners in them. If you use a one-step product you are taking off the first coat when you put on any further coats.

I have used most of the other mequiars products and find that they create a lot of swirls. Always found that I had to start any Meguiars day with their swirl remover. Don't tell me about keeping the cloths clean. I always start with clean 100% cotton terry and discard when done. No matter, could never get totally swirl free with meguiars.


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