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Old 08-01-2003, 11:38 AM
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Red face Rock Chip.... Help

They don't have a bawling smiley, so the sad one will have to do... I'm going out of town tomorrow morning and wanted to wash my baby up before I went so the dirt from the rain (yes, it does occasionaly rain in San Diego) wouldn't be getting baked on for 6 days, and I found not 1, but 2 rock chips! One is on the passenger-side fender about 6" above the headlight (a very small chip, but a very prominent place) and the other one is on the driver-side about 2" under the headlight. I guess I'll be one of the first to buy the bra. I'm not too keen on the paint-protectant film. I don't like the idea of not being able to polish the paint and, though I haven't seen it in person, I can't imagine that it looks anywhere as good as that freshly Zaino'd shine. Anyway, I don't think there's anything I can do about the chips except pout. Any miracle's out there?

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Rotor.......your not alone. I have a small chip also on the fender about 1 inch above the headlight. It is very small but....it WILL be getting fixed.

How you ask? I actually have some experience fixing these little buggers. Here in New Englang we have brutal winters where they dump thousands of tons of sand on the road each winter. Leads to lots of chips.

First I ordered the Mazda touchup paint from Trussville. I havent recieved it yet but, if it comes with a tiny brush on the cap.....DONT use it. never apply touch up with a brush...no matter how small the brush is. The key to it looking good is not to get any touch up paint around the tiny crater caused by the stone. depending on what the chip looks like (post a pic ...Macro is best) will determine what you use to put the paint on. In most cases a match stick....the soft ones in the book....will suffice. You tear the match out from the book and dip the torn end into the paint. The reason you use the match instead of the brush, is that the brush tends to "spread" when you are lightly dabbing the damaged area. The match tends to go where you want it to rather than where you dont.

1. with a small amount of paint on the matchstick, dab once on the stone chip.

2. wait a few minutes until the paint dries to apply more.

3. layer your paint. go thin....let dry....then another dab.

4. build up slowly. maybe take a couple days to complete it. TAKE YOUR TIME.

4. Use some "clear coat compound" to smooth out any spot to blend old and new paint.

Chances are you will alway be able to tell its there. If you look very closely. However this method will make it much better to deal with.

I am taking an even more conservative approach to my stone chip. I will be using the sharp end if a sewing needle to color in my chip. It will take longer but I will be sure I get paint where I want it. The pin method can work better than you think because paint will accurately be directed to the center of the paint chip to color it in.

I hope this helps....

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Old 08-01-2003, 12:44 PM
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Thanks a ton Gyro! Very descriptive. I'm just so nervous/hesitant to do this myself, but I think I may go with the sewing needle as well. The chips are tiny (about 1.5x the size of the point of a standard office staple to give you an idea). I've used touchup paint before, but never with very good results. Your technique sounds like it should help a lot though.

Could claybaring the area (and the rest of the car too I suppose) a week or so after applying the touchup paint help smooth the edges of the chip out? I don't mind knowing that the chip is there myself as long as it doesn't stand out and I can still polish the car nicely and not have people say "what the hell happened here?"
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I had a heart attack myself this morning when I discovered the door to the garage ajar. Sure enough, there were cat hairs on the hood and a very small chip on the driver's side fender. Ooooh...anyone got any good cat recipes?
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Old 08-02-2003, 01:03 PM
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If you want to know how clear bra looks on your RX-8. Look
at the patches of it, in front of your rear wheels. It's on our
cars allready.
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... A really ... mean ... dog.

I hate cats
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Old 08-09-2003, 03:21 PM
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Langka chip repair kits

I have hear of a chip repair company called Langka. Go to there web sight at www.lyngka.com for information. Some car people say this is the best system.
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Langka chip repair kits

I have hear of a chip repair company called Langka. Go to there web sight at www.lyngka.com for information. Some car people say this is the best system.
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I have 8+ chips in my yellow 8 after only 3 weeks. They show from a mile away. I looked at a well done clear bra on a 911TT. It looked A LOT better than random rock chips. I'd rather not have either - but since we seem to have 3 (bad) choices: Rock chips, Standard bra, or Clear bra, I will choose the clear bra. A professionally installed clear bra is very shiney and I could only see a seam at the hood mid-point - not very noticeable at all.. The material is'nt nearly as thick as the Mazda film on the rear fender. I hope it works - all in all it will be about $700 or so. Still cheaper and better looking than constantly repairing chips.
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Originally posted by 1stRX8
I have 8+ chips in my yellow 8 after only 3 weeks. They show from a mile away. I looked at a well done clear bra on a 911TT. It looked A LOT better than random rock chips. I'd rather not have either - but since we seem to have 3 (bad) choices: Rock chips, Standard bra, or Clear bra, I will choose the clear bra. A professionally installed clear bra is very shiney and I could only see a seam at the hood mid-point - not very noticeable at all.. The material is'nt nearly as thick as the Mazda film on the rear fender. I hope it works - all in all it will be about $700 or so. Still cheaper and better looking than constantly repairing chips.
Had the full ClearBra (Hood, front end, mirrors, headlights, and foglights) put on my yellow one today ($600, installed) by the only guy who is allowed to tint my cars (since 1983), for the reasons stated by 1stRX8.

Pics tomorrow, but I LOVE it. From 3 feet away, invisible - and from within 3 feet you can only see the line on the hood if you know exactly where to look. Wonderful stuff.
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Originally posted by tpryor
Had the full ClearBra (Hood, front end, mirrors, headlights, and foglights) put on my yellow one today ($600, installed) by the only guy who is allowed to tint my cars (since 1983), for the reasons stated by 1stRX8.

Pics tomorrow, but I LOVE it. From 3 feet away, invisible - and from within 3 feet you can only see the line on the hood if you know exactly where to look. Wonderful stuff.
Yup, I had the clear bra done a couple of weeks ago, but I paid a little more

But I am very satisfied with the results. I have been hit by gravel noticable enough to get my attention, and so far, all is well with paint.

I really recommend the clear bra.
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Old 10-10-2003, 04:10 PM
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I've got 3 chips in hood

its like getting your brand new white shoes stepped on
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the way i see it, getting your first chip is like part of the break-in period. or like a baptism.

such is life....

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Old 06-19-2004, 11:35 AM
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Just a little bump for this thread... I have 3 chips that I attempted to fill in using the tiny brushy thing that comes with the paint. It looks like ***, Going to remove it and start again using the method described above.

Polak, can we make this a sticky and rename it by any chance?... since it seems our 8's are prone to chips?
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Use Langka to remove unwated touch up paint. It comes right up. As for fixing the chip. It is very simple.
1- Clean the area well
2- glue a 600 grid paper on top of the eraser of a pencil .
3- Rough up the bottom of the chip to allow paint to stick
4- Using a very tiny brush, the one you buy from art stores, or using a match fill the pit slowly. allow 15 minutes between applications, until you get the paint to raise above surrounding.
5- Allow paint to cure for several days, perhaps a week
6- Using a sanding block (grit 3000....It will not scratch you car finish), sand the raised paint area until it blends with the rest of the paint. Run your fingers over the chip, and keep sanding until you can not feel it.
7- At the point the area will look dull. Use 3M rubbing compound, and buff the area lightly. It will shine right up, and you will not be able to see the chip anymore unless you look really close.
8- For some reason if you do not like it, use Langka to remove the paint and start over. I assure you it is the best way to fix the chips. There is no risk of damaging your paint finish.

Good luck

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One more thing ...soak the sanding block in water overnight before you use. And use a spray bottle with soap, and spray the soapy water on the area you are sanding for lubrication.

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Cool thanks mqandil... guess I need to hit the store for some supplies.
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Another easy way to apply small amounts of paint is to use a toothpick. I learned this while building models in my younger years. Mazda sent me a touch up kit with my "Welcome to Mazda" package. Luckily I haven't had to use it yet, but when I do, and I know I will, there's no way I'll use that big *** brush that comes on the lid.
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Bra/chips

Just picked up my new 8 Saturday. Yay!

With all the helpful info posted here, I'm thinking I don't need/want the clear bra. If I did want to get it, though, does anyone know of anyplace in the MD/VA area that does a good job for a decent price on this? I'm thinking of getting it from the dealer b/c the girl who sells aftermarket parts/treatments is so hot (at least the dealers know who they're catering to), but I'd appreciate any info anyone else has. One other thing, does Mazda send you the touch-up paint, or do you have to order it?
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I have a couple of hairline scratches on my 8. Since it's black, the scratches are very visible. Is it worth touching up, or would I risk of messing it? Could I try to use a very thin permanent maker felt pen instead?
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Welcome to the club, RotorMotor. Apparently our paint jobs are just that soft (my service manager agrees) b/c I used to drive a Chevy Blazer and never got a single paint chip. In two months, I've accumulated quite a few. I wonder if that would also partly explain the pervasive orange peel problem...?

But good advice, Gyro. Where can I get clear coat compound?
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Road chips happen.

Clear bra helps prevent it. It appears to be overpriced, but is a necessity if you do a lot of freeway driving. I will be getting it before too long.
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Some touch up paints come with the brush inside the cap AND what liiks like a ball point pen on the cap as well. Is the "pen" equivalent to the match or toothpick?
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on my last car
I had the front bumper repainted every six months or so because I didn't want a clear bra

on my 8 I use the touch up paint from mazda and a toothpick
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true, rock chips happens.

but if you want to reduce the amount you get, dont follow too closely.

when Im on the highway, I am constantly looking for "clean air" and f' in trucks!

just my own habits, which are somewhat effective
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