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ARE-EX-8 09-11-2009 06:24 PM

Best Products For Detailing
 
So i searched but there was not one thread that had all the products that you guys/gals use to detail your cars. Im trying to find the best products for each product. So i was wondering what brands you guys/gals use for each of the following. If there is anything else you guys/gals use can you post it.

Car Soap

Clay Bar

Wax (isnt a shine a shine, whats so special about zaino over NXT)

Tire Shine

Leather

Rim Cleaner

Interior cleaners

Thanks for the help in advance guys. And hopefully this thread will be helpful to others as well, and is not a repost.:smoker: Cheers

Jedi54 09-11-2009 06:27 PM

Never Fear, Jedi is here!

Car Soap: Meguiars Gold Class

Clay Bar: Zaino or Mothers

Wax: ZAINO! Z5 for darker colors, Z2 to top it off

Tire Shine: Black Magic tire dressing

Leather: Zaino Cleaner and Zaino Leather Treatment

Rim Cleaner: lots of soap. for the OEM wheels I used Eagle1 wheel cleaner. On my new wheels, just lots of soap

Interior Cleaner: Meguiars NXT for all the plastic pieces (purple spray bottle) this stuff ROCKS.


Glass Cleaner: Invisible Glass.

ARE-EX-8 09-11-2009 06:32 PM

lmao why am i not surprised the zaino master said zaino for wax. But honestly is the shine THAT much better than NXT. Like i said, isnt a shine a shine.

Mazurfer 09-11-2009 06:35 PM

What, you are challenging the Master? :SHOCKED:
Do you not like your life so far? :yelrotflm

Actually there are threads on this subject matter, they are just really spread around.
Okay, I came back and edited this just for grins:


Car Soap = Well, right now since I had some laying around, it's Eagle One Nanowash, but as long as you use a decent quality car wash soap, you'll be okay.

Clay Bar = Meguiars

Wax = NXT Tech Wax

Tire Shine = Black Magic

Leather = Varies between Meguiars and Mazda

Rim Cleaner = Soap and water only, however I wipe my rims off just about every other day with a microfiber as I get home from work.

Interior Cleaner = Varies as long as it's not Armor-all, but I'm gonna take Jorge up on it and see about Meguiars NXT.

Glass Cleaner = (Stoners)Invisible Glass

And you didn't ask, but Outside Plastic = Back to Black(Meguiars), but carefully!

ARE-EX-8 09-11-2009 06:42 PM

Sorry master. I will NOT question your zaino knowledge. :) Ye i found each individual thing but they were all over the place and not organized. So i thought why not start one with everything on it so it would be helpful for people. Thanks for the input keep em comin guys.

Jedi54 09-11-2009 07:59 PM

Mazurfer: you won't be disappointed with the Meguiars NXT for the interior. I spray a bit on an applicator pad and it works well. It doesn't dry right away but when it does, the shine is exceptional.

ARE-EX-8: I've seen xdeedubbx's car (who was a Meguiar's fanatic) and that stuff is very very good BUT my personal preference is still Zaino. The shine / feel is (IMO) that good. I also like that the've been expanding their product line. :)

Tonicart 09-11-2009 08:12 PM

Car Soap: Griot's Car Wash

Clay Bar: Formerly Mother's clay bar, soon to be Griot's clay =) They just introduced a glass clay too...

Wax: Formerly NXT2.0, soon to be Griot's Show Car Wax

Tire Shine: Meguiar's tire gel; when I run out, you guessed it, Griot's tire gel!

Leather: Lexol Cleaner and Conditioner

Rim Cleaner: I just use what's left in my car wash bucket after i'm done with the car... Why do you need a special cleaner for this? Don't trust the spray and pray shit...

Interior cleaners: water, stoner's invisible glass

Tonicart 09-11-2009 08:15 PM

Is that back-to-black stuff good? I got some NXT on the plastic trim a year ago and still can't get it off =(

Flashwing 09-11-2009 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3219546)
Mazurfer: you won't be disappointed with the Meguiars NXT for the interior. I spray a bit on an applicator pad and it works well. It doesn't dry right away but when it does, the shine is exceptional.
:)

I second this as well. I've used a lot of different off the shelf stuff and I like the NXT interior stuff the best. Ironically it's rather hard to find here in Phoenix!

NgoRX8 09-11-2009 09:19 PM

Car Soap : Meguair's Gold Class

Clay Bar : Mother's

Wax : NXT and P21s. But I got a Blackfire Wet-Ice-Over-Fire kit waiting to be used ;)

Tire Shine : Black Magic

Leather : Blue Magic Leather Cleaner and Conditioner

Rim Cleaner : Meguiar's Gold Class

Interior cleaners : Blue Magic Leather Cleaner and Conditioner

ARE-EX-8 09-11-2009 09:24 PM

Seems like black magic is very popular for tire shine eh. I just went to canadian tire and they had it but it was called "titanium" tire wet. Is that what you guys use?? Also about using the NXT for interior, does it give it a glossy finish. I dont want that, im looking for like a matte. As you do when you buy a new car.

Tonicart 09-12-2009 04:13 PM

I don't think it matters what tire gel you use, it's all pretty much the same. If you apply one coat and wipe it off, it will be a matte finish. If you apply a few coats and don't wipe, it'll be glossy. Either way, you have to let it soak in for about 15 mins before you drive, or it'll spray all over your car ;)

ARE-EX-8 09-12-2009 06:24 PM

I was thinking the same. Isnt tire shine just tire shine, and arent all waxes just waxes. But i heard that amor all ACTUALLY DAMAGES the car so thats what made me start this thread. Wanted to see what to use and what NOT to use.

NgoRX8 09-12-2009 09:28 PM

yup, do not use armor-all...

all waxes are just waxes, but some are amazing in multiple respects while others suck. hahah... and some are actually wax while some are sealants.

Tonicart 09-13-2009 08:29 PM

Well I thought it was a given not to use an Armor-all products on any cars that you actually care about =P

ARE-EX-8 09-13-2009 10:52 PM

I used to use that stuff but not anymore. I started hearing stuff about how it can mess up your interior etcc etc. But have you guys seen that show called unique autosport on the speed chanel. THey customize cars and shit (kinda like pimp my ride but not soo pimpy with all the colours). Well they use amor all products. So whats the deal with that, unique is quite a big franchise. They customize cars for celebraties and stuff and there using amor all... any comments about that ;)

Tonicart 09-15-2009 12:15 AM

I don't like products that leave my interior/seats feeling greasy or sticky. Armor-all successfully does all of the above. F that shit ;) I'm happy that my latest shipment of Griot's products came in... I wanted to wait a few more weeks for my NXT wax to wear off, but Sevenstock is in a few weeks and I want to put the new stuff on before the meet =)

Teckfall 09-16-2009 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by ARE-EX-8 (Post 3219643)
Seems like black magic is very popular for tire shine eh. I just went to canadian tire and they had it but it was called "titanium" tire wet. Is that what you guys use?? Also about using the NXT for interior, does it give it a glossy finish. I dont want that, im looking for like a matte. As you do when you buy a new car.

I dont like the glossy finish either so i used Mequires Natural Shine. Its great for the interior, tires, and black plastic outside if you do not want that glossy look. I prefer just it looking brand new.

http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/produc...p?T1=MEG+G4116

rodjonathan 09-16-2009 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Tonicart (Post 3219563)
Is that back-to-black stuff good? I got some NXT on the plastic trim a year ago and still can't get it off =(

the back to black works really well .. how good is the griots stuff im considerng ordering one of their complete kits with the orbital and everything ... im satisfied with meguairs but have read some good stuff about griots

Huey52 09-16-2009 10:53 AM

I'm pretty much total Griot's these days but have had good experiences with all Meguiar's products.

I would not challenge Jedi54 tho'. ;)

Tonicart 09-16-2009 07:21 PM

Zaino sucks! haha j/k :)

I just got the clay, wax, and speed shine i ordered from Griot's. I don't know if the 15% off deal is still on, but I'd wait for those specials to place big purchases ;) Gotta find some time to remove the NXT and detail before Sevenstock :)

Leesha 11-10-2009 08:34 AM

I am not a guy... :) But here u go...

Car Soap:
Meguiars Gold Class Car wash and Deep Crystal Car Wash
Meguiars Scratch X Remover

Clay Bar: Meguiars Smooth Surface™ Clay Kit comes with Meguiars Quick detailer & very easy to use!

Wax: NXT & Nu Finish-very easy to use & a good microfiber cloth

Leather: Meguiars Gold Class Leather Cleaner/Conditioner

Rim Cleaner: Car Soap & Water

Tires: Armor All Extreme

Interior cleaners: Meguiars Gold Class Leather Cleaner/Conditioner & Armor All (non leather areas-black)

ARE-EX-8 11-20-2009 02:24 PM

OP edited just for you leesha :)

lilring 11-20-2009 02:58 PM

Meguiars for everything!

smokedRX8 11-20-2009 05:22 PM

Car Soap- Granitize Wash and Wax

Clay Bar- Granitize

Wax - Car Beauty Pro Miracle Wax

Tire Shine- Granitize T-11

Leather- Car Beauty Pro Heavy Duty Interior

Rim Cleaner- Car Beauty Pro Red Devil Degreaser

Interior cleaners- Car Beauty Pro Heavy Duty Interior

Worked in detail for four years at a franchise dealer during high school and used these products through the dealer. I had to find them, there is seriously nothing better that I have found. Very pricey though. Granitize you have to find a wholesale dealer. No ones heard of these i assume...

chino0314 11-20-2009 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by lilring (Post 3324744)
meguiars for everything!

agreed

rodjonathan 11-20-2009 11:18 PM

^ you otta give griots garage a shot they got some extremely good s**t i was a die hard meguiars user until i started using their stuff!

altspace 11-21-2009 01:34 PM

Many people swear by one product or another. Really what it boils down to is what you are comfortable with and what yields the best results for you. There really is no "bad" product on the market today. Almost all of the off the shelf products are of decent quality and will suit your needs. However with a bit more research and more specifically what it is you want to achieve, you will then find the best combination of products.

I personally use mostly Poorboys brand. Have been for many years and after dozens of car shows there is not a single one that I don't get comments on how new my car looks. They are shocked in amazement to hear the mileage and year.

http://www.poorboysworld.com

Car Soap: Megs Gold Class

Swirl Removers: PB SSR1, SSR2, SSR3

Sealants: PB EX-P, PB Wheel Sealant

Glaze: PB Black Hole

Wax: PB Natty's Paste Wax Red, and blue

Tire Shine: PB Bold N Bright

Leather: PB Leather Stuff

Wheel Cleaner: Megs Gold Class with microfiber sponge (if you keep clean then you will not need any abrasive or toxic chemical product) However for dirty wheels I use PB Spray & Rinse Wheel Cleaner

Interior: PB Natural Look Dressing

Quick Detailers: PB Spray & Gloss, PB QD+

cjkim 11-21-2009 01:43 PM

meg's 105 for cut
menzerna polishes (intensive polish and final finish)
chemical guys m-seal
pb tire shine diluted a bit

diluted woolite is an awesome interior/leather cleaner. many detailers will use it, not because its cheap but because its safe/effective.

altspace 11-21-2009 02:11 PM

Menzerna is good stuff. I've only used it for heavy duty polishing.

dhan 11-23-2009 08:24 PM

Off topic but can i ask when i end up using swirlx and then using next wax 2.0 right after i always end up with swirl marks? is it because i just have a black car? i think swirlx did not make a difference in the end haha i do not know

Huey52 11-24-2009 06:30 AM

Me too. I still use Meguair's Nxt Tech 2.0, but otherwise mostly all Griot's Garage products. Their detailing spray and leather cleaner/conditioner in particular are fav's. The only product from them I haven't found to work well is their glass cleaner. On our "RainX-like water shedding" windshield plain ol' Windex seems to work better for me.


Originally Posted by rodjonathan (Post 3325319)
^ you otta give griots garage a shot they got some extremely good s**t i was a die hard meguiars user until i started using their stuff!


Silverarrow 11-25-2009 02:00 AM

Here's my usual stuff:

Car Soap - Meg's (recently NXT, but kinda dried out my hands - not sure if it was a fluke yet anyone else had this?)

Clay Bar - Meg's Smooth Surface (though to be honest I just bought it and didn't use it - yet)

Wax - I've used Meg's in the past, but now i use System One spray wax pretty much exclusively (it's a spray carnuba wax) Super easy to put on and really makes the paint "pop". I've tried it both with the car wet and with the car dry and got great results - i like dry best but wet obviously saves some time.

Tire Shine - System One again - it's called Black Licorice and it leaves a nice clean look (not too shiny, spray it on my towel and wipe it on)

Leather - I've been trying different things, most recently settled on the System One spray for that too. Used to use Meg's Quick Interior wipes but then i ran out and the spray wax seems to work well there, so i haven't replenished the wipes yet.

Rim Cleaner - I use Eagle A2Z Foaming Wheel/Tire cleaner (in the normal bottle) - it's been working great so far, usually requires a little elbow grease as well if the wheel/tire are heavily dusted.

Interior cleaners - System one spray again here too. I guess I'm lazy but it really works well, even looks like it repels dust on the dash - i notice less getting on there between washes now.

Hope that helps.

cjkim 11-25-2009 02:08 AM


Originally Posted by dhan (Post 3327654)
Off topic but can i ask when i end up using swirlx and then using next wax 2.0 right after i always end up with swirl marks? is it because i just have a black car? i think swirlx did not make a difference in the end haha i do not know

Not sure, but it sounds like you're trying to remove swirls by hand... which is next ot impossible.
either invest in a good PC/rotary and products or take it to a detailer.
waxes/sealants only hide swirls at best, and even then, I've never found a product to even remotely compare to proper paint correction in the first place.

meguiars is not bad, it's got some decent products (I use meguiars m105 for extra cut compound when needed), but in general, nxt and other meguiar's stuff isn't very good. There are better choices for the money.

Here's a mazda6 we did awhile back:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2653/...c2e5c03292.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/...01e233ae7d.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2621/...f2e470ffa4.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2666/...d9539360e9.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/...359796932c.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3418/...7a60869ced.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2461/...e64acc9b8c.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2540/...b6e091a570.jpg

altspace 11-28-2009 07:18 PM

NXT is a polymer based product. It's good for short spans of paint correction and shine but does not fold a candle to the longevity and depth of a true carnuba wax. That's why I use Poorboys Nattys Blue or Red for my car. Flake pops, the depth is amazing, and most importantly it lasts a very long time.

Tonicart 11-28-2009 08:55 PM

I heard that NXT 2.0 last longer between applications than carnauba. In my experience this past year, that seems to be true, at least for an additional month or two. It sure as hell is easier to remove than carnauba, lol. I used NXT when I first got my car, then a year later I started using Griot's Best of Show carnauba wax. I applied Griot's right before sevenstock (~9/25/09) so it's almost time to reapply. I'll check it during the upcoming christmas break. It's still holding up pretty well thus far in the mild California climate.

glassetcher 11-28-2009 10:35 PM

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Here's what I have gravitated to....

Wax - Turtle Wax Ice (for ease of use and no white residue in crevasses)

Speed Detailer - Mequiar's Quick Detailer

Tire Shine - Mequiar's Hot Shine

Leather Care - Mequiar's Gold Class

Clay Bar - Mequiar's (just got some Griot's for a try)

Car Soap - Turtle Wax Ice

Results for an '04 Wisconsin year-round daily driver ....

Attachment 268670

You be the judge....

ARE-EX-8 11-29-2009 12:30 AM

Looks great bro. I got some questions about how often you should use stuff:

1) how often should you clay bar?

2) how often should you wax? i know you should wax before winter, but when else

3) how often should you use detailer spray ?

altspace 11-29-2009 09:27 AM

Yup, mine is an 04' North Eastern daily driver as well. In winter mode now.

Oh man, then you have not tried Nattys Paste Wax. It's the smoothest carnuba. Goes on like butter and wipes right off. Polymer products are designed for easy removal.

ARE, all of your questions are dependent on various conditions, thus it's tough to say what would be best for your car. However...

1. The easiest way to tell if your car needs to be clayed is after a good wash the surface still feels slightly rough.

2. A good wax will last for many months. If the water stops beading on the surface then you know for sure it is time, otherwise you can wax as often as you like.

3. The spray can be used anytime you feel it needs a touch up. I only recommend using it for very slight dustings or minor water spots and such. Beware not to wipe off any heavier grit or you may scratch the paint.

Although pics hide many fine details, here's a couple pics.

http://www.altspace.com/rx8/tint1.jpg

http://www.altspace.com/rx8/sunrise91809/sunrise9.jpg

ARE-EX-8 11-29-2009 09:53 AM

Thanks for the great info. I know youre a good detailer so ill talk your word for it. Other wise your car looks great as always lmfao

glassetcher 11-29-2009 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by altspace (Post 3332721)
ARE, all of your questions are dependent on various conditions, thus it's tough to say what would be best for your car. However...

1. The easiest way to tell if your car needs to be clayed is after a good wash the surface still feels slightly rough.

2. A good wax will last for many months. If the water stops beading on the surface then you know for sure it is time, otherwise you can wax as often as you like.

3. The spray can be used anytime you feel it needs a touch up. I only recommend using it for very slight dustings or minor water spots and such. Beware not to wipe off any heavier grit or you may scratch the paint.


I agree. I usually clay bar once per year in the spring to clean off the winter's accumulation of grime. And of course wax at the same time. I tried a second claybar in the fall the first year, but I found it made an insignificant difference. Then, I definitely wax again before winter. I may do additional waxings during the summer if I get a nice day and I have noticed the water doesn't bead up as it should. I also use the detailer whenever I want a little touchup, like for a local car show night, or I'm just too lazy for a complete waxing. As I'm sure Alt finds, lots of people can't believe it when I tell them is is an '04. That makes it worthwhile. :ylsuper::ylsuper::ylsuper:

eberpimp69 11-29-2009 01:45 PM

i used menzera polish and i love nattys red its a great shine.

eberpimp69 11-29-2009 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by cjkim (Post 3329224)
Not sure, but it sounds like you're trying to remove swirls by hand... which is next ot impossible.
either invest in a good PC/rotary and products or take it to a detailer.
waxes/sealants only hide swirls at best, and even then, I've never found a product to even remotely compare to proper paint correction in the first place.

meguiars is not bad, it's got some decent products (I use meguiars m105 for extra cut compound when needed), but in general, nxt and other meguiar's stuff isn't very good. There are better choices for the money.

Here's a mazda6 we did awhile back:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2653/...c2e5c03292.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3464/...01e233ae7d.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2621/...f2e470ffa4.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2666/...d9539360e9.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/...359796932c.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3418/...7a60869ced.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2461/...e64acc9b8c.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2540/...b6e091a570.jpg

Im not trying to be a dick or anything but you need to take after shots in direct sunlight to really see that you got good paint correction. Any black car looks good in the shade but once in direct sunlight before lsp is apply reveals the true progress of correction

cjkim 11-30-2009 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by eberpimp69 (Post 3332844)
Im not trying to be a dick or anything but you need to take after shots in direct sunlight to really see that you got good paint correction. Any black car looks good in the shade but once in direct sunlight before lsp is apply reveals the true progress of correction

i agree 100%, except its not always so easy to get a customers car out in time for sun shots. always pressed on time, this mazda6 was delivered late so we had no time to constantly move in and out just for shots. i assure you it was quality work though.

heres another, not a black but its got sun shots.
outdoor 50/50 CLK, no lsp
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2651/...7c7af02c07.jpg
el camino 50/50, not sunlight, but under halogens, no lsp
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2476/...22a487fa27.jpg
cayman S
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2555/...f7fc217c6a.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3526/...eebdba8feb.jpg
swirls
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/...f23680c1f4.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3502/...53b881a04a.jpg
finals
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3483/...1a402a4c1a.jpg
sunshots
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3448/...7897db4366.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2606/...8c96a02a5e.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/...b56f8091_o.jpg

/threadjack

eberpimp69 12-01-2009 09:18 AM

i was not questioning the quality of work. It looks like you know what you are doing and to the normal guy a pic in a shade will do. I have been doing paint correction so i know how it works. Your work looks terrific and it shows in the 50/50 no lsp. :beerchug:

altspace 12-01-2009 04:25 PM

Exactly! Nattys Red is awesome and it smells good enough to eat. ;)

GearDriven 12-07-2009 05:26 PM

Car Soap: Optimum No Rinse

Clay Bar: Whatever I have...optimum or claymagic

Wax: If you have a machine, poli-seal is amazingly fast and durable. With real good prep, opti seal topped with either optimum car wax or supernatural (metallics). Or Zaino Z5 topped with OCW...mostly what I want to play with at that time.

Tire Shine: Zaino

Leather: Zaino -- smells good.

Rim Cleaner: Optimum No Rinse or Power Clean

Interior cleaners: prestone on stains, otherwise just a good vacuuming/blotting

2009RXR3 12-10-2009 11:46 AM

Ok Im looking at changing my car car products and im torn between the Zaino product and the griot's product.

Huey52 12-10-2009 01:01 PM

^ don't be torn.... try both. ;)

2009RXR3 12-10-2009 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3346849)
^ don't be torn.... try both. ;)

That could get expensive....lol


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