What suspension setup for autocross
08-03-2010, 12:11 PM
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What suspension setup for autocross
I have tokico d-spec with tein s-techs and i'm wondering what is the best setting on the struts for autocrossing? If it helps in running 225-40-18 in the front and 255-40-18 in the rear.
08-03-2010, 12:26 PM
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Do you have sway bars?
Put a bigger front bar and keep the stock rear bar. Than run the front shocks a bit stiffer than the rear...If your having oversteer stiffen the rear up. It's all about feel there is no "Best" setting.
Some drivers like a car that pushes more, some like a more tail happy car.
Put a bigger front bar and keep the stock rear bar. Than run the front shocks a bit stiffer than the rear...If your having oversteer stiffen the rear up. It's all about feel there is no "Best" setting.
Some drivers like a car that pushes more, some like a more tail happy car.
08-03-2010, 12:36 PM
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i have stock sway bars. I like to have full control of the car, dont have much experience with the tail sliding out. I have usually been using full stiff on the front and the rear not sure how i like it.
08-03-2010, 12:58 PM
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That's why they are called controlled slides..This isn't drifting.
Sounds like you should just leave the car the way it is, and get some seat time, so when you do make a change you will actually be able to benefit from it. Right now if you make a change, it might actually hurt you without knowing what your doing wrong.
Sounds like you should just leave the car the way it is, and get some seat time, so when you do make a change you will actually be able to benefit from it. Right now if you make a change, it might actually hurt you without knowing what your doing wrong.
08-03-2010, 05:26 PM
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08-03-2010, 05:59 PM
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well i have no choice. The car was in an accident and i cant put wider tires in the front than 225 because it will rub. Check my other thread for more details.
08-03-2010, 06:04 PM
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When I ran D-Specs in stock class on stock springs & matched front & rear tires, I would run the rears about a 1/4 turn less than the fronts, and it worked well for me. Not sure how the s-techs will affect that.
However, as others have noted, with 225 front and 255 rear tires, your car will probably push no matter what you do with the shocks. In fact, it might be faster with the front shocks slightly softer than the rears, but proceed at your own risk on that one.
Overall, I'd recommend backing down both the front & rear one or two turns just to allow the suspension to move a bit more - with the s-techs, there should be no reason to run the shocks at full stiff. The softer settings will allow the suspension to recover from a slide faster, but it will roll more, meaning you have to plan ahead a little bit better.
In the end, it's super easy to experiment with shock settings (assuming you have the cables) so play around a bit.
However, as others have noted, with 225 front and 255 rear tires, your car will probably push no matter what you do with the shocks. In fact, it might be faster with the front shocks slightly softer than the rears, but proceed at your own risk on that one.
Overall, I'd recommend backing down both the front & rear one or two turns just to allow the suspension to move a bit more - with the s-techs, there should be no reason to run the shocks at full stiff. The softer settings will allow the suspension to recover from a slide faster, but it will roll more, meaning you have to plan ahead a little bit better.
In the end, it's super easy to experiment with shock settings (assuming you have the cables) so play around a bit.
08-03-2010, 06:14 PM
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thanks george that really helps alot and it makes sense. My original plan was to run 255 all around but that fell threw. Anyhow ill try one turn from full still thank god i invested on the cables.
08-03-2010, 07:52 PM
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Do you have sway bars?
Put a bigger front bar and keep the stock rear bar. Than run the front shocks a bit stiffer than the rear...If your having oversteer stiffen the rear up. It's all about feel there is no "Best" setting.
Some drivers like a car that pushes more, some like a more tail happy car.
Put a bigger front bar and keep the stock rear bar. Than run the front shocks a bit stiffer than the rear...If your having oversteer stiffen the rear up. It's all about feel there is no "Best" setting.
Some drivers like a car that pushes more, some like a more tail happy car.
stiffer front sway bar increases understeer, stiffer rear sway bar increases oversteer.
08-03-2010, 07:54 PM
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^I think he knows that. However, given the OP's tire size choice, adding more front roll stiffness is probably not a good idea right now. Of course, alignment plays a role as well, but I'm guessing the car steadfastly understeers in it's current condition.
08-03-2010, 08:00 PM
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stock 225/40R19 is a bit understeering. Im thinking 245/35R19 all four
08-03-2010, 09:25 PM
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Sorry, forgot that was you.
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/tire-gets-stuck-inside-fender-when-turning-left-191688/
Your front end is too low, that's not helping either particularly with the wheel offset.
I thought you put 235/40 on the front to address the problem?
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/tire-gets-stuck-inside-fender-when-turning-left-191688/
Your front end is too low, that's not helping either particularly with the wheel offset.
I thought you put 235/40 on the front to address the problem?
08-03-2010, 11:08 PM
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Sorry, forgot that was you.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=191688
Your front end is too low, that's not helping either particularly with the wheel offset.
I thought you put 235/40 on the front to address the problem?
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=191688
Your front end is too low, that's not helping either particularly with the wheel offset.
I thought you put 235/40 on the front to address the problem?
05-20-2011, 10:27 AM
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got my Tokico D-specs, Progress Tech springs, and Progress Tech sway in and going to put them on the car soon...heres the question
what settings do most people run shocks on for the street compared to the track???
im thinking (on a scale of 1-7)...5 front, 4 rear for the street...7 front, 5 rear for the track does that sound about right? softer??? harder???
i know its all about feel and ill just have to work with them but i want to know what most people do...as a good starting point
i really dont have much experience with adjustable shocks so im guessing here
same question for the front sway...im thinking full firm all the time for the sway
any help here would be appreciated...thanks guys
got my Tokico D-specs, Progress Tech springs, and Progress Tech sway in and going to put them on the car soon...heres the question
what settings do most people run shocks on for the street compared to the track???
im thinking (on a scale of 1-7)...5 front, 4 rear for the street...7 front, 5 rear for the track does that sound about right? softer??? harder???
i know its all about feel and ill just have to work with them but i want to know what most people do...as a good starting point
i really dont have much experience with adjustable shocks so im guessing here
same question for the front sway...im thinking full firm all the time for the sway
any help here would be appreciated...thanks guys
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