What mods can you do and stay in BS?
05-05-2008, 01:03 PM
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05-05-2008, 01:12 PM
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05-05-2008, 01:20 PM
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One Shot One Kill
ULLLOSE, though stock spoiler are allowed, i doubt the aeroflares are allow nor are the mud flaps huh?
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...cat=267&page=1
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...cat=267&page=4
though i am not racing competitively, i hope they don't be like, blah blah BS.. wait look at that, DSQ
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...cat=267&page=1
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...cat=267&page=4
though i am not racing competitively, i hope they don't be like, blah blah BS.. wait look at that, DSQ
05-05-2008, 06:33 PM
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I have no reason to doubt you on this, but this seems like a fine hair to split. What documentation is considered acceptable to show whether a window sticker option is indeed dealer installed? How would the average auto-x competetor know whether a part on his or her vehicle that is shown on the factory sticker was actually installed outside of the official factory/port chain?
05-05-2008, 06:42 PM
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Jason,
I have no reason to doubt you on this, but this seems like a fine hair to split. What documentation is considered acceptable to show whether a window sticker option is indeed dealer installed? How would the average auto-x competetor know whether a part on his or her vehicle that is shown on the factory sticker was actually installed outside of the official factory/port chain?
I have no reason to doubt you on this, but this seems like a fine hair to split. What documentation is considered acceptable to show whether a window sticker option is indeed dealer installed? How would the average auto-x competetor know whether a part on his or her vehicle that is shown on the factory sticker was actually installed outside of the official factory/port chain?
btw this "factory installed" part as Stroker calls it does not show up in the 2004+ parts pdf.
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05-05-2008, 07:02 PM
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And I finally drive one this last weekend.
FM
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Yet another weak shot by FM at the MS-R.
05-05-2008, 07:18 PM
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You were the one saying that you need to start at the FSM and parts PDF's.
So...If I protest parts cause they arent shown in those documents, is it upheld?
How bout not being able to buy the parts at the dealerships?
ONLY Mazdaspeed members can purchase the parts which I also think is odd since there is no other situation like this one in stock class solo.
If I do protest the parts, it is probably going to be denied about that car. I already know that. Cause in THIS case a open checkbook was ok. Right?
I probably will protest the parts and I think my protest will be well founded cause the parts aren't shown in the above documents and can't be purchased at the dealers.
Maybe Mazda will correct those things before Packwood?
Or someone "official" could call me and privately admit that it is a trunk kit and I will shut up about the whole thing.
FM
So...If I protest parts cause they arent shown in those documents, is it upheld?
How bout not being able to buy the parts at the dealerships?
ONLY Mazdaspeed members can purchase the parts which I also think is odd since there is no other situation like this one in stock class solo.
If I do protest the parts, it is probably going to be denied about that car. I already know that. Cause in THIS case a open checkbook was ok. Right?
I probably will protest the parts and I think my protest will be well founded cause the parts aren't shown in the above documents and can't be purchased at the dealers.
Maybe Mazda will correct those things before Packwood?
Or someone "official" could call me and privately admit that it is a trunk kit and I will shut up about the whole thing.
FM
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05-05-2008, 07:30 PM
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You were the one saying that you need to start at the FSM and parts PDF's.
So...If I protest parts cause they arent shown in those documents, is it upheld?
How bout not being able to buy the parts at the dealerships?
ONLY Mazdaspeed members can purchase the parts which I also think is odd since there is no other situation like this one in stock class solo.
If I do protest the parts, it is going to be denied about that car. I already know that. Cause in THIS case a open checkbook was ok. Right?
I probably will protest the parts and I think my protest will be well founded.
FM
So...If I protest parts cause they arent shown in those documents, is it upheld?
How bout not being able to buy the parts at the dealerships?
ONLY Mazdaspeed members can purchase the parts which I also think is odd since there is no other situation like this one in stock class solo.
If I do protest the parts, it is going to be denied about that car. I already know that. Cause in THIS case a open checkbook was ok. Right?
I probably will protest the parts and I think my protest will be well founded.
FM
I said step one is the FSM, and just mentioned that the spare tire brace is not in the parts PDF, I never said this is the only method of proof.
As far as the MS-R, I have all the documentation I need to build one a feel comfortable racing it. I wish you would put up or shut up on your protest crap, I would get nice laugh out of it.
Get over your MX-5 issues or start another thread, like maybe on the Miata net, if they will listen to you anymore.
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05-05-2008, 08:31 PM
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By your proposed standard of "factory installed" you car is illegal. Guess if you were a man of honor you would package up your jackets and trophies and send them back to the SCCA with an apology. )
05-05-2008, 08:45 PM
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05-05-2008, 09:03 PM
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the problem is that the so called parts fiche that most us have access to was a very early 2003 edition, which is lacking in many ways
I believe you'll find the option listed in the sales brochure
and it was nice to sit back and
during someone else's p-ssing match for a change 
I believe you'll find the option listed in the sales brochure
and it was nice to sit back and
during someone else's p-ssing match for a change
05-05-2008, 09:10 PM
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05-05-2008, 11:04 PM
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You're on to something. The rear spoiler isn't in the parts fich/pdf.
By your proposed standard of "factory installed" you car is illegal. Guess if you were a man of honor you would package up your jackets and trophies and send them back to the SCCA with an apology. )
By your proposed standard of "factory installed" you car is illegal. Guess if you were a man of honor you would package up your jackets and trophies and send them back to the SCCA with an apology. )
HAHA!
WOOHOO!
We're having fun now!
FM
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05-06-2008, 01:17 AM
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You're on to something. The rear spoiler isn't in the parts fich/pdf.
By your proposed standard of "factory installed" you car is illegal. Guess if you were a man of honor you would package up your jackets and trophies and send them back to the SCCA with an apology. )
By your proposed standard of "factory installed" you car is illegal. Guess if you were a man of honor you would package up your jackets and trophies and send them back to the SCCA with an apology. )
I will bring my car, with wing, to its 4th natls. You show up with your spare tire kit, and we will see how things shake out. btw The FSM shows a factory "spoiler" but not a "spare tire mount", who do you think wins the protest.
Of course I could take it off, just to save the 3lbs and maybe go faster.
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05-06-2008, 07:20 AM
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So what is your proof?
I provided links to two cars that are currently in inventory showing that they have the spare tire option. It isn't being "spec'd" online. That is a actual physical inventory item. The online inventory system does not show any dealer installed options. Please explain your stance.
I have seen cars with the sticker showing the spare tire option. And not a reprinted sticker. I have seen it just off the truck without any pdi showing the spare tire on the factory window sticker.
Or are you just being a mark^h^h^h^hdick?
I provided links to two cars that are currently in inventory showing that they have the spare tire option. It isn't being "spec'd" online. That is a actual physical inventory item. The online inventory system does not show any dealer installed options. Please explain your stance.
I have seen cars with the sticker showing the spare tire option. And not a reprinted sticker. I have seen it just off the truck without any pdi showing the spare tire on the factory window sticker.
Or are you just being a mark^h^h^h^hdick?
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05-06-2008, 09:32 AM
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Hers's an old thread (very old) that mentions the spare as a PORT option.
"I have the spare kit, it was port installed. If it wasn't already installed in the car, I wouldn't have bought it. Now that I have it, I would never leave home without it."
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ght=spare+tire
"I have the spare kit, it was port installed. If it wasn't already installed in the car, I wouldn't have bought it. Now that I have it, I would never leave home without it."
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ght=spare+tire
05-06-2008, 09:42 AM
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So what is your proof?
I provided links to two cars that are currently in inventory showing that they have the spare tire option. It isn't being "spec'd" online. That is a actual physical inventory item. The online inventory system does not show any dealer installed options. Please explain your stance.
I have seen cars with the sticker showing the spare tire option. And not a reprinted sticker. I have seen it just off the truck without any pdi showing the spare tire on the factory window sticker.
Or are you just being a mark^h^h^h^hdick?
I provided links to two cars that are currently in inventory showing that they have the spare tire option. It isn't being "spec'd" online. That is a actual physical inventory item. The online inventory system does not show any dealer installed options. Please explain your stance.
I have seen cars with the sticker showing the spare tire option. And not a reprinted sticker. I have seen it just off the truck without any pdi showing the spare tire on the factory window sticker.
Or are you just being a mark^h^h^h^hdick?
You might also check further into what comes with the kit when you order it...
Must be some doubt on your part if you are looking to this forum for proof. lol I just look at the books, that is where the PC will look.
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