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Old 09-24-2005, 10:16 PM
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good run my friend... but it seems a bit low.
what tires did you have on? suspension mods?
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Whopdy do so it wasent a 5.5.. but damn some of you people get in a tiff over some of the smallest things.
Going from 5.9 to 5.5 seconds ain't that "small of a thing" when it comes to this car.
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Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
Going from 5.9 to 5.5 seconds ain't that "small of a thing" when it comes to this car.

some of us are running low 2.0x 60 ft times in stock RX8's "on the lights", that's a 1/4 sec right there
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so if he made two runs with similar numbers you'd have no beef?
Puhleeze.

I would "have no beef" if he posted three runs pre-mod and three runs post-mod. Heck. give me one pre and I would have never initially posted!
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
some of us are running low 2.0x 60 ft times in stock RX8's "on the lights", that's a 1/4 sec right there
Haha...would those of you be on your second trannies now or is it just your second clutch?
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it is the replacement trans, the original failure was just an unlucky fluke, expecially when you consider that it happened at 4600 ft elevation right off the bat at it's first event, I think we were only getting 2.5 sec times there in the practice, that's how much the power was affected by the elevation

been meaning to post some pics of the parts, not pretty

the clutch is original has shown no signs of distress

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Old 09-26-2005, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by carbonRX8
I am suggesting that we can not determine one way of the other if it is an outlier or not. Where is the rest of the n?
Then I guess you should've said *that* instead of saying best runs are "by defininition" outliers.

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Are you questioning my data junkyness? How dare you.
Now that I've thought about what a data junkie really is, no I'm not questioning your status.

I mean...a crack junkie doesn't necessarily have a clue about what the crack is or how the crack got made...he just likes it a lot. :p
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Then I guess you should've said *that* instead of saying best runs are "by defininition" outliers.
I am not changing my discription, I am just dumbing it down for you (Are you going to make me explain "dumbing-it-down", too?). If you dont mind I will stick with my rather discriptive initial post for those that have some imagination.
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Now that I've thought about what a data junkie really is, no I'm not questioning your status.

I mean...a crack junkie doesn't necessarily have a clue about what the crack is or how the crack got made...he just likes it a lot.
That is really quite good. Congrats. Maybe you do have some imagination. To bad you can't use that to wrap your mind around a simple discriptive idea instead of making rather obtuse and misguided, back-handed insults. Seriously, in my line of work "best-points" are almost always outliers, and the qualities of a "best-run" certainly invokes the same doubt I have about all "Best-Points": is this systematic error, user error, a mistake in calibration? To give one point WAY outside normal distribution (estimating 2 or 3 sigmas) should raise doubts in anyone's mind.
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gtech is accurate (IMO) for comparing new data to old data that it has recorded.

By that I mean that if you rung a 15.2 sec 1/4 mile all the time with the gtech, and then do some mods and run a 15.0 all the time then id say you have prolly droped .2 secs of your 1/4 mile.

I have taken the car to the weigh station and programed that weight into the gtech (in the miata) and then run at the strip, and the gtech was about .3 secs off, but it was consitently .3 secs off, its all about how its set up.
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Yeah, the eds at C&D were very impressed with how even the cheapest accelerometer based timer were very consistant (in my recollection). Enough if i remember correctly to say that you got 1.3% faster over a specific distance, if you had before and after numbers.
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Originally Posted by carbonRX8
Seriously, in my line of work "best-points" are almost always outliers, and the qualities of a "best-run" certainly invokes the same doubt I have about all "Best-Points": is this systematic error, user error, a mistake in calibration? To give one point WAY outside normal distribution (estimating 2 or 3 sigmas) should raise doubts in anyone's mind.
And that was really the only point I was originally making...that "best" runs/times/whatevers are not "outliers" and "worthless" by definition.

Do you want to make decisions based only on the best...likely not...but you don't just ignore a piece of data simply because it's the best of a sample.

Glad to hear that obtuseness and back-handedness came through clearly
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
it is the replacement trans, the original failure was just an unlucky fluke, expecially when you consider that it happened at 4600 ft elevation right off the bat at it's first event, I think we were only getting 2.5 sec times there in the practice, that's how much the power was affected by the elevation

been meaning to post some pics of the parts, not pretty

the clutch is original has shown no signs of distress
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/your-second-gear-72972/



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Old 09-26-2005, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NoCones
Glad to hear that obtuseness and back-handedness came through clearly
Very clear. :D The crack-head crack I will be putting in the vault for my own use after a few years wait. Just to let it mature. Thanks.
Old 09-27-2005, 12:09 AM
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Pre mods I ran a 6.192 to 60.. I posted that but posted w/o pix.. I will take my car to the track so that i have an accurate #. What is a stock 1/4mile time? and what have you guys been running with mid and canzoomer?
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See, now we are getting somewhere. But 6.1 -> 5.5 is a huge difference if it was just because of the car, even if it is relative. Are you sure you aren't just getting better off the launch? Lit values for stock 0-60 are 5.9 with 5K drop. 1/4 mile times are 14.5 sec best (is that Polak's time? Forgive if I am wrong) and 14.9-14.8 average based on maybe 4 posts that I can recall and write-ups. I think C&D had a long term test recently. There should have been a stack of data in there.
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Originally Posted by carbonRX8
Lit values for stock 0-60 are 5.9 with 5K drop. 1/4 mile times are 14.5 sec best (is that Polak's time? Forgive if I am wrong) and 14.9-14.8 average based on maybe 4 posts that I can recall and write-ups. I think C&D had a long term test recently. There should have been a stack of data in there.
More like 8K drop unfortunately
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8k? Did they go ahead and drop it off a bridge too? Just to see if the air bags deployed?

Funny, I recall a Mazda ad that says "other sport cars would be toast if they saw 9k RPM." In the text it uses 5.9 sec for 0-60. Yet they would have to have voided the warrenty on the car that did it, if they abused it with a 8k RPM clutch drop.

sorry off topic. Just annoyed.
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we dropped all year between 7.5 -8k (surface dependent) without issue

edit: by my rough calculations, over 100 times

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Old 09-28-2005, 11:18 PM
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I am taken aback :blink, blink:
Old 09-29-2005, 01:52 AM
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TeamRX8: Just so you know...when I made the comment on the bottom of the last page about being on the second tranny...I wasn't being serious. I was actually joking/guessing. I didn't even know you had gone through a tranny already. I can't say I'm surprised though now...haha. :p
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so I went to the track!

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