The Team WTF?! is for sale
10-24-2006, 10:38 PM
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The Team WTF?! RX-8 is for sale
With a heavy heart, I've put the Team WTF?! RX-8 up for sale. It's listed in the "for sale" of the forum.
More info on the Team WTF?! site.
I know that I'm going to miss this car.
More info on the Team WTF?! site.
I know that I'm going to miss this car.
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10-25-2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by clyde
With a heavy heart, I've put the Team WTF?! RX-8 up for sale. It's listed in the "for sale" of the forum.
More info on the Team WTF?! site.
I know that I'm going to miss this car.
More info on the Team WTF?! site.
I know that I'm going to miss this car.
10-25-2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueRenesis82
what happened?
If I could keep the car and still get the SUV I want (Armada), I would, but that just won't work out right now.
10-25-2006, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by clyde
Nothing happened other than reaching the end of my time with it. When I bought it three years ago, I didn't expect to have it longer than about now. I have the opportunity to compete in someone else's car next year. If I sell the car, I can get something nice to tow with (as well as use for a family hauler) which is something that I'd really like to start doing. Etc.
If I could keep the car and still get the SUV I want (Armada), I would, but that just won't work out right now.
If I could keep the car and still get the SUV I want (Armada), I would, but that just won't work out right now.
10-26-2006, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueRenesis82
will you get the sense of satisfaction that you do now?
The nice thing about the RX-8 is it's a proven winner. The car is set up right and if it had been driven by championship-caliber drivers it would have won.
The car we are moving to next year is much much less of a "sure thing" but it's going to be something different and something fun.
10-26-2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueRenesis82
will you get the sense of satisfaction that you do now? Not trying to be an ***, just curious
I have a somewhat limited attention span. I never expected to keep the RX-8 for more than about three years, and I'll have had the car for about 35 months as of today. I have the opportunity to drive a different kind of car next year that will demand new things of me as a driver and I have compelling wants and needs to get a different kind of vehicle (big SUV to tow and tote family) for myself. I just think it's time to make the move and see how it plays out.
10-26-2006, 12:31 PM
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I'd kind of like to expand on this.
Late this past season I started helping out our local hotshoe who organizes the novice autocross schools. It's fun for me because I get to drive all sorts of cars. I've driven Z06s, E46 M3s, a Cobra replica with a Jag rear end and a "mild" 351W, an FD RX-7 with an LS1, a Scion TC, loads of Minis, etc etc. Driving all these cars is helping me in a few ways:
1) I'm getting better at quickly adapting to new cars and setups.
2) I realize when I've started to pick up bad habits.
3) It lets me try out different techniques without any pressure of having to win.
I do think it's important to pick one car and stick with it for a couple seasons so it becomes brainless to drive, but also allow oneself to wander and try different things occasionally. It sort of resets your brain and makes your subconscious better at picking up on what you and the car are doing.
Last thought, and I mean this in no way as a dig on the RX-8 because it's a phenomenal car with essentially zero bad habits: I never felt like I completely understood the car. I had a few moments of okay driving with it but I never felt like I got in a rhythm with the car. Whereas everytime I hop in the Boxster, it feels like it's just reading my mind and I don't even have to think to go fast.
God, is it the silly season already? :eyecrazy:
Late this past season I started helping out our local hotshoe who organizes the novice autocross schools. It's fun for me because I get to drive all sorts of cars. I've driven Z06s, E46 M3s, a Cobra replica with a Jag rear end and a "mild" 351W, an FD RX-7 with an LS1, a Scion TC, loads of Minis, etc etc. Driving all these cars is helping me in a few ways:
1) I'm getting better at quickly adapting to new cars and setups.
2) I realize when I've started to pick up bad habits.
3) It lets me try out different techniques without any pressure of having to win.
I do think it's important to pick one car and stick with it for a couple seasons so it becomes brainless to drive, but also allow oneself to wander and try different things occasionally. It sort of resets your brain and makes your subconscious better at picking up on what you and the car are doing.
Last thought, and I mean this in no way as a dig on the RX-8 because it's a phenomenal car with essentially zero bad habits: I never felt like I completely understood the car. I had a few moments of okay driving with it but I never felt like I got in a rhythm with the car. Whereas everytime I hop in the Boxster, it feels like it's just reading my mind and I don't even have to think to go fast.
God, is it the silly season already? :eyecrazy:
10-26-2006, 08:09 PM
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fixed it for you ... and it's gonna need it 
I might have to pony up for some additional coverage - the passenger's door and rear quarter panels aren't protected.
11-12-2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by clyde
The car has been sold.
Stay tuned for a parts availability announcement (jesus, you guys are like vultures
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Stay tuned for a parts availability announcement (jesus, you guys are like vultures
)...
11-13-2006, 09:46 AM
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Vulture #1 here... I may be interested in the "ulllose exhaust" if it's avail.
11-20-2006, 01:30 PM
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Well, Saturday a week ago I bid adieu to my 2004 RX-8 6MT with Sport and Navigation. A few stats on my 155 weeks of ownership:
28,339 miles
1,661 gallons of gas
47 quarts of 5W-20
24 states (Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, plus DC)
59 autocrosses
14 drivers
531+ runs
6 hours 50 minutes+ of run time
274+ cones
12 different sets of tires used
108 Pro Solo launches
7 red lights
1 0.499 RT
In it’s place is a 2004 Nissan Armada, which just happens to be almost exactly twice as heavy, carries about twice as many people and has more than twice the torque. It’s a little different.
Over the past week, I’ve been sad. I miss the RX-8 quite a bit…maybe even more than I expected, and I expected to miss it some. But I’ll tell you what I don’t miss…
I don’t miss the energy spent involuntarily stressing over every little noise the car might have been making. I don’t miss the anxiety experienced every time I drove the car on the street worried that someone was going to hit the car and leave me high and dry for competition. I don’t miss worrying about breaking the car at some far off, distant autocross with no way to get it home. I don’t miss wondering about what the next nothing thing was going to be that was going to drive me nuts worrying about it anyway.
I really loved that car, but no that it’s gone, I finally feel like I can speak freely about it. I was absolutely paranoid about it. Not like the typical OCD car owner that threatens to kill anyone that gets to close to it, but paranoid about something happening that would preclude its use at an event or affect its suitability for further competition.
In reality, the only four issues the car ever really had were a blown coil (on the car’s second autocross run), a CEL due to a busted gas cap (courtesy Maryland State Emissions Inspection), a broken plastic collar on the steering column that made vertical movement of the steering wheel possible when the tilt adjustment was locked, and galled wheel studs from the super low quality OE lug nuts. And there were the spurious low oil level warning lights on the way to/from Peru this year. And the occasionally sticky brake light on the dash after not fully dropping the parking brake on a Pro Solo launch.
There were a bunch of trim issues such as the RX-8 badge on the driver’s door sill that wouldn’t stay attached, the broken headliner clip that made it look like the headliner was falling down when the rear driver side door was open, the vanishing piece of the parking handle, the worn carpet in the driver’s footwell, the condensation in the tail lights, the squeaky driver’s seat that took 4 trips to the dealer to finally fix, and an occasionally stuck navigation display in extremely cold weather. Oh, and the wacky A/C that usually didn’t blow enough cold air when it wasn’t blowing air that was too cold.
That last batch were all minor, and there are TSBs covering most of them, but almost all of them developed after the car’s last trip to the dealer in April 2005…when my service advisor made a comment connecting the Konis to “racing” that made me avoid bring the car back. In that time, there were three recalls issued that I never closed out (control arms, heat shielding, and the new engine/emissions one).
When you cut through all the **** I’m talking about, the bottom line is that it was a great car. It took two people, all their gear, a set of tires, jack, and tools away for a weekend Tour or Pro without a problem. It got decent mileage on the road (we averaged about 22-23mpg on the road). It was comfortable and not fatiguing to do that kind of driving. It would have been nice to have more torque in daily driving, but it hardly ever presented a real problem. Daily driving mileage was abysmal, though (more than a handful of tanks under 11mpg and 13.5 being typical). The autocross mods made it a little less civilized for commuting, and that was probably one of my biggest reasons for wanting to sell it.
After almost everything was back to stock, I found myself thinking that I could get used to it again as a daily driver. Then the stock exhaust went back on last Friday, and it felt like a nice general purpose car again. I really wanted to keep it, but if I wanted a tow vehicle there was no way I could keep it. Next year, after we move, we’ll have a garage and more vehicle room. Then, I’ll be looking for a cheap salvage title (flood) RX-8 to build into an SM car. Maybe.
It was such a fun car to autocross in Stock legal trim. Of the 14 people that ran my car over three seasons, I think only one of them got out of the car after their first run without an ear to ear **** eating grin and/or giggling like a school girl. It was just so well balanced, responsive, great steering…and everything else that you all pretty much know about from driving your own (or mine)
Having the RX-8 for three years was a lot of fun. It met my needs at the time almost as perfectly as any car ever could. When I bought it, the two basic requirements were: 1) Be fun to autocross and 2) fit two child seats in the back. From the test drive I took in the car three years ago, I knew that it would be fun to autocross. The balance, responsiveness and steering were just outstanding (little did I know that after having DA shocks on it for three years how sloppy it would feel after going back to stock). Where I got lucky was with the reclassing of the Honda S2000 after 2004, which led to the RX-8 becoming the dominant B Stock car for the second and third years...which fit in great with my decision to start seriously competing at the national level in 2005. It did fit car seats in the back just fine. What I didn't know was that even with two small children (one of which was on the way when I bought the car), I'd only have to put the seats in it on a handful of occasions.
It was just a lot of fun...and thoroughly enjoyable to drive. She will be missed…even by my four year old:
28,339 miles
1,661 gallons of gas
47 quarts of 5W-20
24 states (Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, plus DC)
59 autocrosses
14 drivers
531+ runs
6 hours 50 minutes+ of run time
274+ cones
12 different sets of tires used
108 Pro Solo launches
7 red lights
1 0.499 RT
In it’s place is a 2004 Nissan Armada, which just happens to be almost exactly twice as heavy, carries about twice as many people and has more than twice the torque. It’s a little different.
Over the past week, I’ve been sad. I miss the RX-8 quite a bit…maybe even more than I expected, and I expected to miss it some. But I’ll tell you what I don’t miss…
I don’t miss the energy spent involuntarily stressing over every little noise the car might have been making. I don’t miss the anxiety experienced every time I drove the car on the street worried that someone was going to hit the car and leave me high and dry for competition. I don’t miss worrying about breaking the car at some far off, distant autocross with no way to get it home. I don’t miss wondering about what the next nothing thing was going to be that was going to drive me nuts worrying about it anyway.
I really loved that car, but no that it’s gone, I finally feel like I can speak freely about it. I was absolutely paranoid about it. Not like the typical OCD car owner that threatens to kill anyone that gets to close to it, but paranoid about something happening that would preclude its use at an event or affect its suitability for further competition.
In reality, the only four issues the car ever really had were a blown coil (on the car’s second autocross run), a CEL due to a busted gas cap (courtesy Maryland State Emissions Inspection), a broken plastic collar on the steering column that made vertical movement of the steering wheel possible when the tilt adjustment was locked, and galled wheel studs from the super low quality OE lug nuts. And there were the spurious low oil level warning lights on the way to/from Peru this year. And the occasionally sticky brake light on the dash after not fully dropping the parking brake on a Pro Solo launch.
There were a bunch of trim issues such as the RX-8 badge on the driver’s door sill that wouldn’t stay attached, the broken headliner clip that made it look like the headliner was falling down when the rear driver side door was open, the vanishing piece of the parking handle, the worn carpet in the driver’s footwell, the condensation in the tail lights, the squeaky driver’s seat that took 4 trips to the dealer to finally fix, and an occasionally stuck navigation display in extremely cold weather. Oh, and the wacky A/C that usually didn’t blow enough cold air when it wasn’t blowing air that was too cold.
That last batch were all minor, and there are TSBs covering most of them, but almost all of them developed after the car’s last trip to the dealer in April 2005…when my service advisor made a comment connecting the Konis to “racing” that made me avoid bring the car back. In that time, there were three recalls issued that I never closed out (control arms, heat shielding, and the new engine/emissions one).
When you cut through all the **** I’m talking about, the bottom line is that it was a great car. It took two people, all their gear, a set of tires, jack, and tools away for a weekend Tour or Pro without a problem. It got decent mileage on the road (we averaged about 22-23mpg on the road). It was comfortable and not fatiguing to do that kind of driving. It would have been nice to have more torque in daily driving, but it hardly ever presented a real problem. Daily driving mileage was abysmal, though (more than a handful of tanks under 11mpg and 13.5 being typical). The autocross mods made it a little less civilized for commuting, and that was probably one of my biggest reasons for wanting to sell it.
After almost everything was back to stock, I found myself thinking that I could get used to it again as a daily driver. Then the stock exhaust went back on last Friday, and it felt like a nice general purpose car again. I really wanted to keep it, but if I wanted a tow vehicle there was no way I could keep it. Next year, after we move, we’ll have a garage and more vehicle room. Then, I’ll be looking for a cheap salvage title (flood) RX-8 to build into an SM car. Maybe.
It was such a fun car to autocross in Stock legal trim. Of the 14 people that ran my car over three seasons, I think only one of them got out of the car after their first run without an ear to ear **** eating grin and/or giggling like a school girl. It was just so well balanced, responsive, great steering…and everything else that you all pretty much know about from driving your own (or mine
) Having the RX-8 for three years was a lot of fun. It met my needs at the time almost as perfectly as any car ever could. When I bought it, the two basic requirements were: 1) Be fun to autocross and 2) fit two child seats in the back. From the test drive I took in the car three years ago, I knew that it would be fun to autocross. The balance, responsiveness and steering were just outstanding (little did I know that after having DA shocks on it for three years how sloppy it would feel after going back to stock). Where I got lucky was with the reclassing of the Honda S2000 after 2004, which led to the RX-8 becoming the dominant B Stock car for the second and third years...which fit in great with my decision to start seriously competing at the national level in 2005. It did fit car seats in the back just fine. What I didn't know was that even with two small children (one of which was on the way when I bought the car), I'd only have to put the seats in it on a handful of occasions.
It was just a lot of fun...and thoroughly enjoyable to drive. She will be missed…even by my four year old:
Last edited by clyde; 11-20-2006 at 02:38 PM.
11-20-2006, 01:55 PM
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I read the boxter S is not as good as the Eight. My neighbor has one and I can run circles around him. I believe he is a bad driver.
So what's your opinion on the boxter? Or should we wait as see?
So what's your opinion on the boxter? Or should we wait as see?