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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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It doesn't even make any sense. Is the DSP proposal dead? None of those cars have any chance against a CSP Miata, so they may as well leave them in BSP or put them in ASP because they're no better fit there, performance capability or chassis type. The whole thing appears to be disorganized chaos without any true objective other than change for the sake of change.
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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Well to update this thread...

Per the November Fastrack: http://www.scca.org/documents/Fastra...strack-nov.pdf

Comment from the ****: moving these cars would not make them any more competitive in CSP than in BSP. At Lincoln the playing field appears to have been leveled between the Evos and the other cars in the class. In addition, cars such as the M3 and RX8 are dissimilar to the rest of CSP.
The proposal to move the RX-8 to CSP was nixed.


While a lot of time has passed (I wanted to see how the conversation developed on the SCCAForums thread), I finally decided to sit down and knock out a 5 page letter this evening outlining why the RX-8 fits the DSP class in terms of its dimensions, weight and power/thrust along with supporting dyno graphs, wheel torque curves, etc.

Hopefully, this proposal will be published for member comment in the Spring.
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Old Feb 5, 2011 | 01:09 AM
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I definitely support this move. I just bought some A6's just to have some fun locally and see how much work I would need to do to make the car competitive when/if we get moved to DSP.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
(I wanted to see how the conversation developed on the SCCAForums thread)
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
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Well, I also needed JohnV to send me some thrust curves and dyno plots as well. I would say once whitecivic left the thread the conversation improved. Nate (solo-x) raised some valid concerns -- all of which I addressed in my letter.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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yeah, nothing worse than combatting with a clueless expert on teh subject who is convinced he understands everything about nothing ...

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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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yeah, nothing worse than combatting with a clueless expert on teh subject who is convinced he understands everything about nothing ...
IOW, 99.999% of the internet.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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From e-mails exchanged with my local **** representative, my letter has not been posted to their forum yet. I made sure to send him a copy of the letter and he will keep an eye out for it on their forum. He mentioned that he liked the justification/comparison of my letter but will see what the group as a whole decides.

As I learn more, I'll update this thread...
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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thanks Chike!
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 10:35 AM
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Got another update -- my letter was posted to the **** forum this morning.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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next thing you know some ****** will submit a letter trying to get the '68 Camaro moved to DSP ...
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Update...

SCCA Letter #4118 Update

Your letter has been reviewed by the Street Prepared committee, and a recommendation has been made to the SEB. The SEB will review your letter and the Street Prepared committee's recommendation on their next conference call.
The plot thickens...
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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I hope you like weak sauce ....
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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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From the June Solo Fastrack:
- The following class change proposal is provided for member review and feedback (#7726):
- Move from BSP to DSP: Mazda RX8
http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...-june-solo.pdf

Submit feedback here:
http://www.sebscca.com/

I submitted my letter this morning.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BRODA
From the June Solo Fastrack:


http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...-june-solo.pdf

Submit feedback here:
http://www.sebscca.com/

I submitted my letter this morning.
Please submit your letters on this topic, there needs to a more then a few voices to support this move.

<Submitted letter today
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Old May 23, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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They posted in Fastrack the prior month or two that the idea was not going to be considered. The same thing happened with the 200 TWR proposal. They can't seem to make up their mind on anything these days.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Please submit your letters on this topic, there needs to a more then a few voices to support this move.
Done!
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Old May 23, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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I submitted feedback. Would my car be legal in bsp/dsp with the ms front and rear bumper if I removed the wing? It would be nice to run on race rubber.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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glad I found this thread, I am going to be moving out from novice and into an sp class since I will be running a bhr mp. I was under the impression we were csp, looks like I was way off.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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I currently have no interest in SP and it is unlikely I will own an RX8 again...

and I wrote my letter to the SEB/**** supporting the move...

just because it is the right thing to do
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:43 AM
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You're a good man, Mike...
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:45 AM
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just so i dont come across as a major noob, what points should we be stressing in our letter for a move to dsp.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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And in this same Fastrack there is one notice that the Fiat 500 isn't going to be classed due to rollover safety concerns and another notice classing it in G Stock.

Apparently the process now has two left feet, lol
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Old May 24, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
just so i dont come across as a major noob, what points should we be stressing in our letter for a move to dsp.
IMHO, your letter will be most effective if you share your personal feelings rather than just repeating what others have already said.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
And in this same Fastrack there is one notice that the Fiat 500 isn't going to be classed due to rollover safety concerns and another notice classing it in G Stock.

Apparently the process now has two left feet, lol
Lol yes you saw that as well.
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