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Old 02-01-2015, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by longpath
Reach out to Kenneth directly, so the naysayers have less chance to drag you down because they don't share your dream.
Good idea, thanks man. I have to imagine more than just you and Kenneth have done this in RX8s.
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LOL if maintenance was a concern at all I wouldn't be driving an rx8 in the first place. Not like I am going to be doing WRC stage rally with this thing.
It seemed as though your concern was cost based on the earlier response. Maybe your labor is free, but all that dust & dirt will be hard on the mechanicals. There's a local autox site here that I dislike running on because of same due to heavy loose grit & gravel just tears everything up, and thats on pavement. I'm not sure everyone understands or appreciates the impact of running in dirt. Otherwise i get that you bought a dirt cheap 4-port auto RX8 just to dog in the dirt with.

Not sure that I sgree it being a better long term choice relative to the total long term cost, but it's no skin off my back. Just the same, it should be discussable for others to make their own educsted choice on without it being a constant tit for tat reply contest. If you're confident in your choice then more power to you.
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It seemed as though your concern was cost based on the earlier response. Maybe your labor is free, but all that dust & firt will be hard on all the mechanicals. Ghere's a local autox site here that I dislike running on because of same due to heavy loose grit & gravel just tears everything up, and thats on pavement. I'm not sure everyone understands or appreciates the impact of running in dirt. Otherwise i get that you bought a dirt cheap 4-port auto RX8 just to dog in the dirt with. Not dure that I sgree it being a better long term choice relative to the total long term cost, but it's no skin off my back. Just the same, it should be did ussable for others to make their own educsted choice on without it being a constant tit for tat reply contest. If you're confident in your choice then more power to you.
I've always wanted to do rallycross so its more of a "why not" deal than any sort of dedicated rallyx car. The real reason I got the car was to be a winter DD, mechanically it is in excellent shape but cosmetically it has hail damage, other dings and paint delamination on the spoiler -- and of course as mentioned it was a great deal financially. Its a perfect NFG hoonmobile other than the auto trans and is already subject to Philly winter roads (road is a generous term...). Obviously I'm not trying to spend a ton of money on the car, but fabbing up a skidplate, a decent set of tires, etc. is pretty much a given cost IMO and is part of what I'd consider buy-in (no different than making sure your car is up to snuff for autox with good tires, wheel bearings, suspension rubber bits, etc).

I can certianly appreciate your comment about how dirty some of the autox courses are, ours are generally pretty good but occasionally you'll come back and wonder wtf you did to your car to get it so dirty . Labor is free to me, love wrenching and done plenty of significant work on other cars -- digging in and getting my hands dirty is part of the fun.

TBH I expected a lot of negative responses (flame suit's been on), I am aware I'll need to keep a close watch on suspension components and everything will get mucked with dirt. I'm more interested in anything specific to the RX8 when it comes to rallycross. Skidplate is a good call, issue of not being able to swap with smaller wheels is also one that I've gleaned on here. I'm also planning on taking off all of the "sport" body cladding since it does nothing but kill clearance.
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In regards to "ruining" the vehicle, yes it is a bit rough on suspension, paint, and body panels but that's the beauty of taking an ugly car out there, just keep the drivetrain safe, 40+psi in the tires (suggest downsizing to 17" for more sidewall leeway) and watch for hard ruts in the course you will be alright.

Btw I rallycross my dd protege5 and aside from normally aging parts and the protege's normal week spots it's no worse for wear.

Last things I can tell you is make it reliable before go fast bits, take off your sway bar end links (you don't necessarily want to corner flat on a rutty course) after learning it off road, and have fun running 60+ second courses AND having reversed course runs for usually over 14 runs during the day.
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Jesus Christ people, it's just a car and it's built to the same standards as any other car! I've done more damage to my RX-8 by hitting cones at cold autocrosses and running enormous R compounds on it than I ever did from rallycross.

Rockchops, if you want to do it, don't buy or build anything except for a set of snow tires or good all seasons if you're just going to be in the dirt. If it's going to be a sloppy mess, just wait until the next event because you'll have more fun in the dry and you won't have to clean up as much. You don't need a skidplate if your rallycross program isn't run by idiots (though rallycross nationals looked to be pretty unnecessarily rough). Speaking of which, where are you located? Is your local rallycross program pretty well established? If you want to see what the sites are like, check youtube or show up to an event and ride along with people first and make the call for yourself instead of listening to a bunch of people who have never done it before.

That said, I don't rallycross my RX-8 anymore because it's a dedicated autocrosser now, and the last car I rallycrossed a bunch was actually a stage rally car that I was navigating for. I also did quite well in a friend's lowered Saturn that used to be an autocross car too.



In conclusion, you'll survive. Have fun! Let me know if you have any specific questions.

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I've only done one rally cross but long ago in a galaxy far away I did a full season of SCCA Pro Rally (not in an RX8 or Mazda). I've never had more fun in a car and I was only the co-driver at that time!
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Originally Posted by jtspells
In regards to "ruining" the vehicle, yes it is a bit rough on suspension, paint, and body panels but that's the beauty of taking an ugly car out there, just keep the drivetrain safe, 40+psi in the tires (suggest downsizing to 17" for more sidewall leeway) and watch for hard ruts in the course you will be alright.

Btw I rallycross my dd protege5 and aside from normally aging parts and the protege's normal week spots it's no worse for wear.

Last things I can tell you is make it reliable before go fast bits, take off your sway bar end links (you don't necessarily want to corner flat on a rutty course) after learning it off road, and have fun running 60+ second courses AND having reversed course runs for usually over 14 runs during the day.
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Jesus Christ people, it's just a car and it's built to the same standards as any other car! I've done more damage to my RX-8 by hitting cones at cold autocrosses and running enormous R compounds on it than I ever did from rallycross.

Rockchops, if you want to do it, don't buy or build anything except for a set of snow tires or good all seasons if you're just going to be in the dirt. If it's going to be a sloppy mess, just wait until the next event because you'll have more fun in the dry and you won't have to clean up as much. You don't need a skidplate if your rallycross program isn't run by idiots (though rallycross nationals looked to be pretty unnecessarily rough). Speaking of which, where are you located? Is your local rallycross program pretty well established? If you want to see what the sites are like, check youtube or show up to an event and ride along with people first and make the call for yourself instead of listening to a bunch of people who have never done it before.

That said, I don't rallycross my RX-8 anymore because it's a dedicated autocrosser now, and the last car I rallycrossed a bunch was actually a stage rally car that I was navigating for. I also did quite well in a friend's lowered Saturn that used to be an autocross car too.



In conclusion, you'll survive. Have fun! Let me know if you have any specific questions.

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I've only done one rally cross but long ago in a galaxy far away I did a full season of SCCA Pro Rally (not in an RX8 or Mazda). I've never had more fun in a car and I was only the co-driver at that time!
Thanks guys! Already have good snows and all seasons so sounds like it'll mainly be just making sure everything is in tip top shape mechanically.

Kenneth my local chapter is Philly which has sort of been on and off the last few years that I've been trying to follow it. Right now nobody is the head of rallyx and I do know that there is difficulty finding places around here to use. That said, there are some different chapters within reasonable driving distance, so I'll find something. Around here autocross reigns supreme, hopefully I'll be doing both (stock class in my sky redline for autox) but I'm sure the lovely lady will have something to say about that...

Either way thanks for the advice and encouragement!
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Try and keep an eye on the WDCR region, they have a really strong program, only issue is the only site they have at the moment is out in Frostburg and though it's an enormous course it's rough gravel (in an old fema storage lot) and abut 3hrs away for me here in Baltimore.


Here is a link to the site,

http://www.wdcr-scca.org/RallyCross/tabid/88/Default.aspx
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Well I found one...for this weekend! Hopefully the weather will cooperate as we are supposed to get snow Sunday and its a bit of a drive. Also fingers crossed that it doesn't fill up, it's a national qualifying round or something.
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Well If you go, good luck and have fun
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Well I found one...for this weekend! Hopefully the weather will cooperate as we are supposed to get snow Sunday and its a bit of a drive. Also fingers crossed that it doesn't fill up, it's a national qualifying round or something.
Awesome! I love winter rallycrosses with lots of snow. They tend to be easy on cars so long as you don't go head first into a giant snow bank, and cleanup is minimal, but there's still grip. Good luck and have fun! And definitely report back when you're done!
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Just came back from my first rallycross! It was a blast and the rx8 performed really well. The biggest problem was ground clearance and the wrong tires. I went off in the parade lap (embarrassing) but that was it. Snows were on the rear and performance all seasons in the front. I expected mud rather than snow but whatever it was slow and slippery. The auto was actually perfect -- since the gears are so wide I could keep it in first the whole time and focus on lines. Among rwd cars I was among the top (took first in stock rwd but not many in it).

Only damage was I ripped an underbody panel off, no big deal. It was a ton of fun and I would absolutely recommend it for rx8 owners.

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I got the detailed results today. Beat a couple imprezas and all of the rwd cars (including prepared) except for a prepared miata. I only hit one cone on the very first run and consistently improved from there every time out. I am pretty happy with that!
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That's awesome, good for you and keep us posted on your progress
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Good job sir, keep it up!!!!
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RX8S ARE CHEAP and handle great, i think we're in the zone were they get used for many things original purchasers wouldn't dream of because they still look at their rx8 as a 20k car. its not, its a 5k car. or less. i just ordered a trailer hitch to use my rx8 taking my jetskis in to the beach, is the salt gonna hurt the back"? probably, but **** it, its a 5k sweet ride, if i was to use a truck it would probably be a 5k truck, so what the difference how i spent it, or how well SOME BITCH thinks it will work. can't wait to build a drift rx8, and then a rally rx8. maybe even rally first.

weres the AWD rx8s at??
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A little behind here but this is myself and my buddy who are building the car for stage rally up in Canada.



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Being an 8 owner, a friend sent me this. Probably old news to you guys but I couldn't take the chance if it wasn't.

This. Was. Awesome.

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I had a side bet going on whether the front or rear bumper would fall off first
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Our local SCCA region is hosting its first ever rallycross event on Saturday. And im right in the middle of turboing my Impreza. if its not done by then I might tear the front and rear bumpers off the rx8 and just run modified class.. I wonder how the WedsSport wheels and lowered suspension will hold up.
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Our season is starting up too, looking forward to more rallycross! I'd be wary of low ground clearance, even stock I was about as low as I felt comfortable since the track was pretty rutty. In 2 weeks, can't wait!!

Btw the pictures in this thread are awesome
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Originally Posted by DAT2RTR
Our local SCCA region is hosting its first ever rallycross event on Saturday. And im right in the middle of turboing my Impreza. if its not done by then I might tear the front and rear bumpers off the rx8 and just run modified class.. I wonder how the WedsSport wheels and lowered suspension will hold up.
Your wheels will probably hold up better than steelies, but I am concerned with your lowness. At stock height it was just shy of being too low. I guess it really depends on how smooth the field/track is.

This is my new height with new Flatout Rally suspension setup, still some more tweaking required.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCha...SUayt3yeSTmDGQ

Here is some of the footage I have from one of our event this year.
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I didn't end up going. I heard from people that went that the lot was smooth. But, the daily driver has to get "Fixed" before you can go racing.
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Originally Posted by DAT2RTR
I didn't end up going. I heard from people that went that the lot was smooth. But, the daily driver has to get "Fixed" before you can go racing.
Meaning....? The only thing in concerned about is breaking the tire beads.


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