dknv

Might be a pinched nerve, sciatica-like symptoms, very painful. I tried driving Sat. p.m. runs, but with numbness in my left foot I couldn't find the clutch pedal for the first 1-2 shift and hit the brake a couple of times before shifting. I finished those 4 runs under pain so I don't have any good feedback about the tire feel - other than I thought they launch well.

Mark will hopefully chime in later about his impression of the hoosiers.

dknv

That is a real shame you had this experience! As Jason mentions, the SCCA has strict insurance requirements to avoid advertising an event or promoting it for purposes of having spectators. However, I have not seen a situation where 'guests' were discouraged. I guess for future reference, if someone wanted to go watch an event, just show up to the waiver person & write in 'guest' under the STATUS column. I believe the people manning the waivers were volunteers from the Packwood area senior citizens group, and probably only did what they were told -- without realizing there was leeway for handling exceptions.

I know when I was there for the NT last year, some young people from the area came to watch and I don't remember hearing of any problems because of that. Maybe someone from NWR could enlighten us if there was some incident and now area spectators are being discouraged for some reason.

McCalll

I guess Walnut Ridge must have been a fluke since they had two radio stations, bleachers, multiple food vendors, a rock-wall, car show, and radio/billboard advertising of the event. They had a pretty good turn-out as well and the town really came out to support it.

Wasn't one of the original "goals" of Pro-solo to make the events spectator friendly like drag racing in order to increase interest and participation in solo overall? Sounds like that goal has gotten lost along the way.

Sorry about your experience DSM. Feel free to post up your story at sccaforums <dot> com as you will possibly get the attention of orgainzers there.

clyde

If you choose that, inside the Solo/Pro Solo forum, but I'd actually suggest posting on the SCCA's own forum in SCCA Solo/The Tire Rack ProSolo National Series forum. Some of the National staff actually appear to glance at it on occasion and when they do, they sometimes respond to this kind of feedback.

SCCA Forums is more likely to get people to respond, but as it's not actually part of SCCA, you may not get anything more than conjecture and speculation (like what you've gotten here, but magnified).

dsmdriver

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I wrote the PR person at the SCCA (Erin) last night and she passed it on to the right people. By the time I woke up this morning, I had quite a response from inside the SCCA.

I'll let you know how it all turns out, but it's clear that this is not how they intend things to be run and they want to fix it in the future. I'm glad to hear this, but it sucks that I get to be the person to get it fixed.

TeamRX8

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Congrat's to Jason for kicking some major booty at Packwood

I tried every trick I knew but could not get the car with 285/30 A6's to perform up to the same level as on 245 V710s; balance or transitional grip. So blame me as a driver or setup person. It really doesn't matter; we rolled the dice and lost. They kicked tail off the line; 8000 rpm drops and sub 5 sec 200 ft times, but that was all they were good for IMO.

I've actually run more on the V710s this year than the street tires, there was a big North-South Challenge event in NV a month or two ago where I blew away everybody on the PAX with DKNV's car on 245 V710's, the car was no where near the same level of performance on the 285 A6's. I don't care for the size or the A6, back to the 245 V710's for us.

The 285/30-18 Hoosier A6's are for sale if somebody else wants to give it a try, they are still pretty much in near-new condition

and to add insult to injury, I managed to collect my first speeding ticket in 5 or 6 years about ten miles west of Packwood on the way home; 75 in a 55, a nice thought to replay over and over again during the 13 hr drive home ...

Hi Flying 8

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Sorry to hear about your ticket-real bummer.

After talking with you at the Denver Pro about the Kodiaks, I'm curious about the quality problems DKNV said you had. It makes me nervous about going that route.

Keep taking good care of DKNV-she's a good woman.

Mark

clyde

My Kodiaks seem to work well. Of course, I'm benefittin from someone else having gone through teh teething problems.

PedalFaster

Off topic, but I run Kodiaks and would not recommend them.

TeamRX8

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the only issue is that these are 3-pc racing wheels and the wheel bolts were not properly torqued. We didn't discover it until after mounting the tires on Thursday evening before heading off to the event. Once the silicone breaks and they begin to leak the only fix is to take them apart and reseal them. It takes several days for the silicone to cure, so we had to make do with just dealing with the slow leaks. I've had multiple sets of Kodiak wheels without leak issues. Somebody just dropped the ball this time, it happens to the best sometimes ...

Imp

but... but... but... Hoosier has rain tires!!!

If I'm reading this right, you didn't have any set-up time prior to the event on the Hoosiers before running them at the Pro since they only have 16 runs on them... They were new and never run prior.

Trial by fire, IMHO, isn't the best way to say they work/don't work. It takes time to setup a car around tires so they work the best, right?

Mark, what if you had them for the rest of the season, do you think you could get more time out of them once you dial in pressures/alignment a little more accurately?

--kC

TeamRX8

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nobody's stopping you from trying it

GeorgeH

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A note about road speeds around Packwood - a local once told me that anything below 10 over generally goes unnoticed. Having said that, my Wife got pulled over too.

Just got back from Evo stage 1 at Packwood. Found 1.1 seconds on a transition-intensive 30 second course, .01 seconds off Andy Hollis' best time in my car.


Be afraid, Jason. Be very afraid.

05TiGr8Lady

You were looking good out there today, nice job! Good to meet you

GeorgeH

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Likewise!

dsmdriver

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FYI, according to one of the NWR-SCCA directors, spectators have not been allowed at Packwood since 2004, and will not be allowed this weekend. You must be a SCCA member to enter.

He didnt' explain if family members were allowed. He said "At their request [Hampton Mills] the Pro Solo and NT, as well as our regional events, are for SCCA members only."

National seems to think that spectators are allowed while the local group thinks only SCCA members are allowed. If I were you I wouldn't bother going to watch or suggeting that any of your friends come watch you.

ULLLOSE

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I wonder how many Non-SCCA members have been there this week doing the EVO schools......

dknv

Makes me think that Hampton Mills is concerned about liability, in case someone gets injured while on their property. SCCA provides medical coverage in the event of an injury to a member, a non-member gets less or no coverage. I thought regions have the leeway to offer free temporary memberships -- Jason, do you know?

ULLLOSE

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From SCCA.com:

"Insurance
All SCCA members are protected with the best event-related insurance program in motorsports at no additional cost. Properly registered SCCA members who are accidentally injured while participating at SCCA events are covered for up to $1 million in medical expenses. SCCA members, in certain circumstances, are also provided with limited third-party liability insurance coverage at most events. Contact the SCCA Risk Management Department at the national office for details."

Non memebers are still covered but WAY less coverage. Like I said the deal on the site is so good that they will do what ever HM ask them to do to use it, even if that means members only. I have seen a number of events where regions have given free or reduced cost temp memberships. However if I am in charge of a region and only get a few free memberships to give away I am going to use them on people that will enter the event, not just give it to someone that wants to watch.

dsmdriver

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My biggest issue with all of this is that they need to say on their website "NO SPECTATORS."

If that's the deal, then tell me. Don't make me drive from Seattle to Packwood to find out.

I'm not an SCCA member and they took my money and let me enter the Evolution school no problem

mp5

B-stock results from the Tour:

http://www.scca.org/Event/Result.asp?Ref2=317

Did the Porsche break? Props to GeorgeH for getting in the trophies... seems like the Evo school worked.

I think Joe and Jason are tied with 3 wins each for the season.

Imp

Wait... the tour is over already?

When did they finish, 10am?

PedalFaster

Congrats to Jason and Joe, both of whom were flying. Note also that a 350Z came in third. Nationals are going to be interesting this year.

No, but my will to live broke after my car's hatch opened partway through my only halfway decent run on Saturday, causing me to be red-flagged.

CodingParadox

Whoa, steve, I had no idea you were on these boards. I guess I never noticed the "68 BS" on the porsche in your avatar.

I'm pissed that I boned saturday. At least I managed to get 4th best time in class today, which evened out to 7th (behind Joe by 20 thousandths!) Oh well. If only I'd done well on saturday, I might have trophied today.

Glenn also had 4 runs today, due to a timing mishap on his first run. He got an extra 0.6 seconds with his last run, which is why he was up so high. Still a great drive by him, though. I just wish I had 4 runs.

GeorgeH

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Yup. I would have stayed in third (which is where I was on Saturday) if Glenn had to rest on his first 3 runs. Still, I'm stoked that I trophied. New tires helped me relative to my Pro performance, but Evo helped much more. And yeah, CodingParadox had a fast run today. Congrats on that!

Tours are a blast. Real fun, and real competition. I can't wait for Nats! I got my crosshairs on that 350Z!

George