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Old 11-24-2003, 06:39 PM
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Rick, this is not a question of how bad your Z24 is, or which car would win at a drag strip. Most of us could care less, and did not buy the RX-8 to go hunting Corvettes, 350Zs, and Z24s. Nor was OverLOAD attempting to challenge you. He was simply posting the results of his GTech, and we were discussing that. So it sounds like his GTech is off. Ok. Big deal. Are done with that now?

It sounds like you work at a Mazda dealership, and the RX-8s are not selling where you are. Any ideas as to why? They sure seem to be going like hotcakes nationwide (Mazda is way ahead of it's sales targets for the 8s), as well as selling pretty well in my area. But they are not moving on your lot? Is it just the '8, or are all the cars not selling very well right now? Seems to me this IS supposed to be the beginning of the poor-sales season, isn't it?
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seikx8,

Very interesting graph? Surely you followed the calibration settings of doing a very quick 20 foot launch on the surface your 1/4 mile was right?

By the looks of the shift points, where you are accellerating constantly even between shifts, I would say you were driving up a hill, fooling the G-Tech into thinking you were acellerating (the acceleration pointing further back).

I did speed shift pretty hard, but didn't give it a whole lot of gas on the shifts, just enough to give me a boost, which you can see on my data. My surface was pretty level, but not flawless.

I'm most interested in trying to get accurate data that will give me an accurate depiction of what the RX-8 will do on the track, and suggestions are welcome.

Oh, and Rick King, I saw your posts, and you pose an interesting challege. Perhaps one of my friends with a modified Chevette with a 454 v8 would like to take you on? Seriously though, if you are questioning my data, download the .gtp file. I posted it so that people can examine my run, and point out possible errors in what I may have done. Sure, you may have a fast Cavalier, but if I was interested in seriously drag racing, I would be at the track, not driving to Ohio to show somebody I don't even know how I drive the car.

If you would have read my 4-5 follow up posts, you would have seen that I am not defending my time. It doesn't matter, I am posting the results for comparison by other sensible people.

Best wishes.

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Old 11-24-2003, 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by OverLOAD
seikx8,

Very interesting graph? Surely you followed the calibration settings of doing a very quick 20 foot launch on the surface your 1/4 mile was right?

By the looks of the shift points, where you are accellerating constantly even between shifts, I would say you were driving up a hill, fooling the G-Tech into thinking you were acellerating (the acceleration pointing further back).

That is correct, that run was out of wack because it wasn't calibrated and the road wasn't level either; And my GTech Pro mounting bracket broke off during that run Just want to make a point that there are other conditions may throw of the reading and it's not a good way to compare reading from different environments since I have not have much luck getting consistant data.
Old 11-25-2003, 09:23 PM
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Hey rick, I got mine there at Lang's, and I must say I was extremely disappointed in the quality of prep for delivery. Sticky was all over the paint and glass still, dirt was between door/hood/and trunk cracks.. if this is a trend in customer service, perhaps that is why few are selling? I thought the sales people were very uneducated about the car (although very good to work with). Maybe Castrucci is taking sales away.

I do think you have an excellent test drive road though.
Old 11-26-2003, 09:36 AM
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Sales have been off for several months. Might have something to do with poor salespersons.

The comments about the delivery, from Langs, have been forwarded to the GM. Scot. Lets see how this is handled. We have excuses. with the new building and all. But customers should NEVER drive off THIS lot with a car that way.

Mr. original poster. Thanks for your reply. Truthfully, I am not the least bit interested in racing your friends. I posted to you. First, I don't think G-Techs are that far off. Second, I don't think RX-8's run 14.03 - stock. Third - I think by posting your time you've done nothing more than point out to others less fortunate than you. They are poor drivers and their cars are slow If they race and find their car a second or more slower than your 14.03.

But, I've had my say. By posting what I posted I've put myself in a box so to say. I still like the car. I'll defend the car when I see it slammed.

It's funny that you would mention friends of yours, I needed to race. When all I wanted to do was prove your car is no faster than the norm. If your friends race in Division 3 of NHRA or IHRA I might know who they are. They might have raced against my friends. But why is it people bring up how fast their friends are when someone has asked to race THEM? I think I posted somewhere in this page I don't think a car is quick until it runs 11:99. Another way I measure a car is when it runs 2 seconds quicker than the norm. That shows me the owner has spent time and money on the car making it different. Making your car different shouldn't move you up much in the real world of who you are though. Often, I go off when I read posts on web pages that I don't think are possible. I think people often post to elevate themselves above others. Mr. poster, I am not sorry I questioned you.

Fact of the matter is. You don't live too far from me. I thought it would be fun to race.
Old 11-26-2003, 08:56 PM
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Rick,

I'm glad that it appears that you have taken no offence. I had intended none. Street racing is not for me. I literally meant that there might be other people I know who would be up for a "Challenge".

Now, perhaps I am a good driver, but no, I'm not a pro driver, nor have I even made a run in a real drag strip. So I don't consider myself any more capable of getting a good time than any of the other member here. I simply presented my data, as seikx8 did, and invited the community to pick it apart.

I am not interested in running an Illegal street race. That draws faaaar too much negative attention from the cops for my liking. I might make a run when no one is looking, but I like to keep under the radar blip.

I am curious as to what your motivation for wanting to racing my RX-8 is. Others have posted that their G-Tech's were consistently off by .5 seconds, etc, so this would explain that my run is not out of the ordinary, nor is my driving skill. Why would I drive 100 feet down the road to proove that, when it's pretty obvious? I can wait for the spring, and do a side by side at a real strip vs. a Gtech.

Good luck.

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Old 11-26-2003, 09:01 PM
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I think the point was "it would be fun to...", but that's left to interpretation.

Cool for now, just keep outside of street racing
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I don't go out looking for street races. But, when you drive a Cavalier or a car with a dealer tag on it EVERYONE wants to make an example out of beating you. I normally save my racing for the track. One is located less than three miles from the dealership and only charges $10.00 for test and tune and street legal drags.

I would liek to help the guy who wasn't happy with the delivery of his RX-8. He first needs to e-mail me.
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Overload...

Couple of things:
Using the Pass software version 1.1.1 and your Gtech data, have you looked under the "Gs" tab to see if your clip is moving on launch?
Have you downloaded their big new owners manual from their website? It is much better than the old black and white thing that came with the Gtech.

Peter at Tesla Electronics is a good source of info on getting good consistent results from you Gtech. 310-452-0030 ext 3

Regards,
Tom
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