Help with setup for drifting
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Help with setup for drifting
Hey there. I have a few questions and I would thank you for any help
1) What coilovers, sway bars, and strut towers would be best for drifting? Please provide links or specific models. What else am i missing?
2) I was looking at Nitto tires, as they are supposedly engendered for drifting, however, the tread life is rated at 100. This means the tires can handle heat really well, but wont last very long. Is this what I want for drifting? I have just been usign as many stock OEM tires as I can and they work, but seem to shred and chunk.
3) Should I stick with my 18" Mazda Speed rims? Currently they are 225/45/18, What size can i put on these, that would be best for drifting? (To see available sizes in Nitto tires, please click the "sizes and specs" and list one off of there for my tires size.
Here is the link to the Nitto tires (they have 3 options, 2 being drifting, once being drag) what would you recommend?
http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Efeature%2Ecompetition
Thanks for your help, and please keep the flames to yourself
1) What coilovers, sway bars, and strut towers would be best for drifting? Please provide links or specific models. What else am i missing?
2) I was looking at Nitto tires, as they are supposedly engendered for drifting, however, the tread life is rated at 100. This means the tires can handle heat really well, but wont last very long. Is this what I want for drifting? I have just been usign as many stock OEM tires as I can and they work, but seem to shred and chunk.
3) Should I stick with my 18" Mazda Speed rims? Currently they are 225/45/18, What size can i put on these, that would be best for drifting? (To see available sizes in Nitto tires, please click the "sizes and specs" and list one off of there for my tires size.
Here is the link to the Nitto tires (they have 3 options, 2 being drifting, once being drag) what would you recommend?
http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Efeature%2Ecompetition
Thanks for your help, and please keep the flames to yourself
Last edited by CometX; 06-11-2008 at 02:00 AM.
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if you really want to drift, get some cheap federal tires, stretch them over your rims, which means you prolly want to get the MS rims off there as they will get pretty beat up. and make sure your rear sway is nice and stiff.
beyond that i'm outta my leage
beyond that i'm outta my leage
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get some 17 in rims on the rear (if the rotor and brake can fit), summer tire so it dosen't "melt", some stiff rear sways, and lots of tires and time.
oh, zip ties and duct tapes. i would start off with 6 17 inch rims, 2 for front, 4 for rear. practice practice and mucho money.
oh, zip ties and duct tapes. i would start off with 6 17 inch rims, 2 for front, 4 for rear. practice practice and mucho money.
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try narrower wheels at the back to help lose traction whilst learning. Up the pressure on rear tyres, and if you have adjustable suspension have it harder at the back and softer on the front
It should help you learn to get the back end out and then you can start to tweak it here and there to suit your style
It should help you learn to get the back end out and then you can start to tweak it here and there to suit your style
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I think the KW V3s allow for more adjustment, however both are kind of the same design (mono-tube). KW V3 are deffo the best, but then the price is a little more
If going all out I'd say to go for the JIC Magic coilovers as they actively compete in the D1GP so will probably have some "drift only" sets available. I believe Tein are selling these now too (Super Drift) but not sure if they're out for the rx8 yet.
D2Racing do a drift spec set, however from what I have seen, D2racing (same company as Ksport) are not that good quality and too hard for daily use too. Of the 4 cars I have seen with these coilovers fitted, one had leaking struts, two had cracked springs and the other had a failed top mount after 2 weeks These were apparently sold for "drift use" so quite 'shocking' (excuse the pun )
If going all out I'd say to go for the JIC Magic coilovers as they actively compete in the D1GP so will probably have some "drift only" sets available. I believe Tein are selling these now too (Super Drift) but not sure if they're out for the rx8 yet.
D2Racing do a drift spec set, however from what I have seen, D2racing (same company as Ksport) are not that good quality and too hard for daily use too. Of the 4 cars I have seen with these coilovers fitted, one had leaking struts, two had cracked springs and the other had a failed top mount after 2 weeks These were apparently sold for "drift use" so quite 'shocking' (excuse the pun )
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Well for drift i have the solution!! lol but if you want extreme results you must spent a lot of cash and be patient...
Well i have in my car the following:
Cusco type rs 1.5 lsd
Hks hypermax coilovers
greddy front and rear strut bars
Tanabe front and rear sway bars
Agency power front and rear sway bars end links
Autoexe lower arm bar rear
Autoexe under member brace
Greddy 6pot front big brake kit
Autoexe lighter rotors rear and autoexe street pads
19x 8.5 Volk gtav rims front and 19x10.5 rear -5mm offset
Pirelli 305/30 rear tyres and 235/30 front toyo proxes
Thats my setup from braking-suspension
And as for the cash i told you well my 8 is aproximately 1100kg full equiped..Everything is carbon fiber..Will post pics next week..
If you need help tell me
Well i have in my car the following:
Cusco type rs 1.5 lsd
Hks hypermax coilovers
greddy front and rear strut bars
Tanabe front and rear sway bars
Agency power front and rear sway bars end links
Autoexe lower arm bar rear
Autoexe under member brace
Greddy 6pot front big brake kit
Autoexe lighter rotors rear and autoexe street pads
19x 8.5 Volk gtav rims front and 19x10.5 rear -5mm offset
Pirelli 305/30 rear tyres and 235/30 front toyo proxes
Thats my setup from braking-suspension
And as for the cash i told you well my 8 is aproximately 1100kg full equiped..Everything is carbon fiber..Will post pics next week..
If you need help tell me
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I've done two drifting tournaments in my RX8. I have Racing Beat springs and sways and started with a typical auto-x alignment and Kumo MX tires on the stock rims. Just like auto-x or any performance driving, seat time and practice with instructors at a real event will help more than any car modifications and bolt-on's will.
At the first event I adjusted the rear toe out quite a bit 1/2 way through the day and it made a huge difference in the transitions from right to left. Before the second event I also reduced the rear camber to be closer to zero (less negative). The rear toe out helps since as the weight transfers from one outside rear to the other rear, it helps start the oversteer process. I don't recommend driving on the street with rear toe out, it makes the car real nervous in a straight line, but rear toe is easy to adjust trackside. Less rear camber was an attempt to make the rear looser than the front and it did help some, but not as much as rear toe.
If I was going to get serious about it I would put the stock front sway back on, leave the RB rear in place, and invest in a roll cage. Most organizations won't let you tandem drift unless you have a cage and you can't crack the top 8 unless you tandem. If I still had cash left over I would get some cheep 17 inch rims and the lowest profile cheep rubber I could find. The smaller diameter will help lower the overall gearing and this will help torque at the wheels considerably. Think about used tires too, the RX8 doesn't have the massive torque to shred tires all that fast, I was surprised at how long my Kumos lasted even though they were at the wear bars when I started the first event.
At the first event I adjusted the rear toe out quite a bit 1/2 way through the day and it made a huge difference in the transitions from right to left. Before the second event I also reduced the rear camber to be closer to zero (less negative). The rear toe out helps since as the weight transfers from one outside rear to the other rear, it helps start the oversteer process. I don't recommend driving on the street with rear toe out, it makes the car real nervous in a straight line, but rear toe is easy to adjust trackside. Less rear camber was an attempt to make the rear looser than the front and it did help some, but not as much as rear toe.
If I was going to get serious about it I would put the stock front sway back on, leave the RB rear in place, and invest in a roll cage. Most organizations won't let you tandem drift unless you have a cage and you can't crack the top 8 unless you tandem. If I still had cash left over I would get some cheep 17 inch rims and the lowest profile cheep rubber I could find. The smaller diameter will help lower the overall gearing and this will help torque at the wheels considerably. Think about used tires too, the RX8 doesn't have the massive torque to shred tires all that fast, I was surprised at how long my Kumos lasted even though they were at the wear bars when I started the first event.
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