Bare

Okay, I cannot find anything in this forum about Drifting with an Rx8, I currently have an 04 model.
I am simply wanting to get this this to lose its grip and go sideways. I am looking at redoing the steering and getting stiffer sway bars and dampeners. I was thinking about upgrading the pulleys for better torque, I dunno if that would make a big enough difference.
It would be a great help if someone can help me figure out what I need to do to this car to get it tuned the way I want it to be.

John V

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Max out your negative camber up front and reset the toe to zero. Take all the camber you can out of the rear (minimum negative camber) and reset the toe to zero. Bump up your rear tire pressures to 60psi or so and you should be good to go.

JB_Rotary

A lot of it is going to depend on how good you are. If you are new to it you won't need much besides a good alignment and tires. I reccomend buying new/used stock tires here. They have enough grip to learn on and only run you $200~400 a set. If you have been doing it for a while you might want to consider coilovers, sway bars, flywheel, 2-way diff. Despite what people in a lot of other boards will tell you you have enough power to break the tires loose in a turn with a clutch kick. The ebrake also works fine.

TeamRX8

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oh yeah, pulleys should do it ...

think big, really big



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Bare

I have no idea what any of that means? laymens terms please?

TeamRX8

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he's referring to your wheel alignment, I don't mean this as a slam, but you're greener than the grass in south Florida, you have to learn how to walk before you can consider drifting

John V

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Also, TeamRX8 is the drift king of the RX-8 board, so he will have a lot of good advice for how to get sideways and stay sideways.

Wing5

I've got a question: I'm at least smart enough not to do this on the roads, (but admittedly not smart enough to not to try this with my 8, as it's my daily driver) but where the hell can you go? Parking lots are too heavily watched and I'd get thrown in jail for trying it at my airport, so where to go for drifting?
Thanks in advance

Bare

I've learned a lot about drifting the past 2 years. Just beacuse I don't know tech terms doesnt mean I can't race. I just feel it. Since I am doing things on my own now, I am trying to learn the ins and outs.

I'm already running, I just need to know how my shoes work.

JB_Rotary

That's very Takumi of you (a good thing). Here is some infor I got from the clubfr.net forum. The local drifting group in the Chicagoland area.

Neglecting to get an alignment or improper alignment can hurt performance and make driving un-fun. This will be very basic explanation of different settings ( recommned race settings are for a rear wheel drive car, 240sx etc)

Camber - During cornering a tire will get maximum traction at negative camber due to bodyroll, tire roll, suspension travel. By adding stiffer coilovers you can minimize the movement and it will help keep the static settings. Fronts will see more load so more camber is recommended. Camber plates and adjustable rear upper control arm recommended. Good starting point - 3deg front/ 1.5 deg rear

Caster - Positive steering pivot angle helps with high speed stability,cornering response and helps straighten the steering when going forward. Generally speaking more caster is better. Too much caster will make the steering feel heavy. Excessive caster will add negative camber to the outside wheel during turning, altering static camber settings. Sometimes you will lose some steering angle. Adjustable tension rods recommended. Good starting point - 1-2 deg over stock setting.

Toe -
Front: Toe in (not recommended) will help with straight line stability, encourages understeer. Toe out (advanced driver) will enhance turn-in response, encourages oversteer, too much will create bump steer and scrub. Good starting point - 0 toe or slight toe out

Rear: Toe in will help with stability under acceleration, good control at high speeds, encourages understeer
Toe out - ( not recommended, advanced driver) Car will feel funny(4ws), hard to control under acceleration, very easy to go sideways. Good starting point - 0 toe or slight toe in


Here are some more links

http://www.longacreracing.com/articles/art.asp?ARTID=3 - Camber
http://www.longacreracing.com/articles/art.asp?ARTID=4 - Caster
http://www.longacreracing.com/articles/art.asp?ARTID=5 - Toe
http://www.longacreracing.com/articles/art.asp?ARTID=29 - squaring
http://www.longacreracing.com/articles/art.asp?ARTID=12 - setting proper toe

There is a sticky at the top of the page that has what people here have been using also. Should come in handy.

Punksux

Bare,

Thats not nice of you, giving your car one last final abuse before selling it off to someone else


https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...91#post1718991

Bare

It's no longer for sale

dillsrotary

do you know what DK stands for?

Punksux

that was a quick change of heart since you bumped that for sale thread 6 minutes before you made this thread. Eithercase, glad you are keeping the car.

By the way everyone knows that DK stands for Donkey Kong

altiain

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I thought it was Dead Kennedys?

MrSuicideDoor

i'll open up by saying i'm greener than grass also, my proficiency with drifting is limited to donuts in a parking lot. but i am very interested in the drifting scene. i have lots of reading to do before i can ask an informed question, but i had just one general one: how bad is drifting for your car? is it a horrible idea if your 8 is your commuter? what part of the car does it hurt most? thanks guys

John V

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Depends on your technique, but expect to go through tires and oil (because of the constant high revs) at an alarming rate.

cavemancan

Bare

?????????

dknv

Little did we know that the aftereffect of getting sideways was being able to put another type of racing on the racing resume.

dknv

You rang?

John V

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I thought he was practicing?

Xyntax

Dishonorable Kill

deamicls

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Drift King?

TeamRX8

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lol, so I get a PM stating that somebody referred me as being able to help, thanks John

drifting can be pretty hard on a car, that is if you consider putting it into a concrete wall or crashing into another drifter car as being hard on it