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Old 11-15-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by StrokerAce
There is one bargain wheel available. Rota F45's 18x8 5x144.3 e 48 73 hb $187.50. They are between the ultraleggers and stocks for weight IIRC ~19#. There is a thread on the BS wheel options.

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-racing-25/bs-wheel-options-103241/
No they are not... I have a set, and if you read the thread you will see where they are 21 lbs. Still a good deal price wise, and I like how they look like the Mazdaspeed wheel, but not worth it to save a 1/2 lb over stock.

There is a new wheel from Rota that "should be" 19 lbs, the P1.
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Right now you have to get the P1 bored out to fit the RX-8 because it is only available in the 56.1 hb. Subydude will sell a set bored out for the RX-8 for $850. They are listing them as 19.2 lbs.
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Originally Posted by Bootleg
what do you think you're doin chike?!?! looks like me you and Deady will have some fun next season.

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Hey Brandon. No more 2.5L WRX for this lad.

I'm definitely looking forward to running against Deady next season - he's a solid driver for me and my co-driver to run against locally. He consistently PAXes up there with Jinx, Feinburg, and company.
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No they are not... I have a set, and if you read the thread you will see where they are 21 lbs. Still a good deal price wise, and I like how they look like the Mazdaspeed wheel, but not worth it to save a 1/2 lb over stock.

There is a new wheel from Rota that "should be" 19 lbs, the P1.
21lbs?! Scratch that wheel off our list!
Originally Posted by moxnix
Right now you have to get the P1 bored out to fit the RX-8 because it is only available in the 56.1 hb. Subydude will sell a set bored out for the RX-8 for $850. They are listing them as 19.2 lbs.
For the $$$, the Prodrive P1 definitely looks like the wheel we'll use in '08.

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Originally Posted by chiketkd
Hey Brandon. No more 2.5L WRX for this lad.

I'm definitely looking forward to running against Deady next season - he's a solid driver for me and my co-driver to run against locally. He consistently PAXes up there with Jinx, Feinburg, and company..
i'll be there with you guys too. just pick up 04 rx-8 yesterday. only a few people locally know about it so keep it quiet.

now all i have to do is figure out how i'm going to afford tires......
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Originally Posted by moxnix
Right now you have to get the P1 bored out to fit the RX-8 because it is only available in the 56.1 hb. Subydude will sell a set bored out for the RX-8 for $850. They are listing them as 19.2 lbs.
You don't necessarly have to get them bored out. They also some in 73hb. SubyDude is showing gunmettal ones with the 73hb. The availabilty seem to vary by either rota's whims or what the vendors whim.
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Originally Posted by StrokerAce
You don't necessarly have to get them bored out. They also some in 73hb. SubyDude is showing gunmettal ones with the 73hb. The availabilty seem to vary by either rota's whims or what the vendors whim.
I think you are looking at the Rota P45f's not the Rota P1's. If you are looking at the Rota P1's can you show me where they are listing the 73hb ones? When I PMed subydude yesterday they said all the P1's currently needed to be bored out for mazda fittment.
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Originally Posted by Bootleg
i'll be there with you guys too. just pick up 04 rx-8 yesterday. only a few people locally know about it so keep it quiet.

now all i have to do is figure out how i'm going to afford tires......
I'll keep it quiet. Very cool to see a bunch of people moving into the B-stock class locally.

Tires definitely are expensive. My co-driver (Shawn) and I will be waiting until the new V710 is out before buying a set. We want to set the car up for that tire rather than the old V710 which is on closeout right now at TireRack.

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Stock brake pads and SSR/OZ/Kodiak wheels. I have a set of Koni OTS shocks I'm taking out of my car this weekend, PM me if you're interested. They only have about 7000 miles on them. I sold the car and am putting it back to stock but I will be co-driving a BS RX-8 at national tours/nationals next season as well.

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Heck, I'll sell you a turn key car...won the Pro Finale, 2nd at Nats and also has allowed a mid pack driver to go faster than the National champ, on occasion
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I will definitely be getting a new RX-8 - not looking at used cars this time around (want something with a warranty).

CosmosMpower, I'm still a few weeks away from buying the konis, but I'll talk to my co-driver about whether he'd consider used shocks. While it may save us $$$ in the short term, if they start to leak it would require paying a small fee to have koni rebuild them (plus the extra down-time of not being able to drive the car when the strut is removed). If we buy new, then we'll have the koni warranty and they send you out a replacement first and you later return the leaky shock. Doesn't seem like a huge deal, but if you're 1 week away from heading out for Topeka, that slight difference could be crucial.
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Yeah, much better to take the 50% hit on resale as soon as you drive it out the door...

JK...besides, new cars smell better
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Originally Posted by mwood
Yeah, much better to take the 50% hit on resale as soon as you drive it out the door...

JK...besides, new cars smell better
LOL. Very true. My Subaru WRX has actually kept it's value very well after 2 yrs - I should get about 18K for trade in, and I bought it new for 23K.

In another 'lifetime' I owned a '00 Ford SVT Lightning. Let's not talk about the resale on that truck that cost 32K brand new! I took close to a 50% hit on trade in after 2 years...

New car for the warranty...new shocks for the same reason.
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Hey, my car is an '06 with only 10k miles...plenty of warranty left...plus, someone could actually assume the lease, use it for a year and then give Mazda the keys, if they wanted to...or buy it out for the residual, which is too low to disclose
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Originally Posted by mwood
Hey, my car is an '06 with only 10k miles...plenty of warranty left...plus, someone could actually assume the lease, use it for a year and then give Mazda the keys, if they wanted to...or buy it out for the residual, which is too low to disclose
If we were next door neighbors, I'd consider it.

Any answers to my question from this morning folks???
Originally Posted by chiketkd
My co-driver and I probably won't have the funds in '08 to get a dedicated autocross rain tire (W710) and will probably use a good Kumho summer tire (SPT's) as a dual street/autocross wet tire.

What size would you guys recommend for the SPT's - 245/40/18 or 225/45/18?
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
Any answers to my question from this morning folks???
I chose the 225/40 SPT's to keep the same gearing as the 245/35. When I run in the rain (Idaho) it's usually accompanied by very cold temps, and less width heats up better. I have had some very good results (locally) with this setup.
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
If we were next door neighbors, I'd consider it.

Any answers to my question from this morning folks???
You will see very little performance difference between the two sizes in full wet conditions. My preference would be the 245 only because it "looks" better on the car.

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Originally Posted by whatbadgerseat
I chose the 225/40 SPT's to keep the same gearing as the 245/35. When I run in the rain (Idaho) it's usually accompanied by very cold temps, and less width heats up better. I have had some very good results (locally) with this setup.
I was thinking about that, but these tires would also be my daily drivers. I wouldn't won't my speedo to be off 24/7. The 225/45 or 245/40 keeps the same gearing as stock.
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You will see very little performance difference between the two sizes in full wet conditions. My preference would be the 245 only because it "looks" better on the car.

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Thanks Chris.
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Originally Posted by moxnix
I think you are looking at the Rota P45f's not the Rota P1's. If you are looking at the Rota P1's can you show me where they are listing the 73hb ones? When I PMed subydude yesterday they said all the P1's currently needed to be bored out for mazda fittment.
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There is one bargain wheel available. Rota F45's 18x8 5x144.3 e 48 73 hb $187.50. They are between the ultraleggers and stocks for weight IIRC ~19#. There is a thread on the BS wheel options.

Now where did I say anything about P1's?
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
If we were next door neighbors, I'd consider it.

Any answers to my question from this morning folks???
On the SPT VS W710, good thing you don't have that money burning a hole in your pocket... I doubt we will see anything near an RX-8 size in 2008.

I had the 245-40-18 SPT on our car, got 30k miles out of them, could have been more but we did some drift work last weekend.
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There is one bargain wheel available. Rota F45's 18x8 5x144.3 e 48 73 hb $187.50. They are between the ultraleggers and stocks for weight IIRC ~19#. There is a thread on the BS wheel options.

Now where did I say anything about P1's?
See Jason's post (#26). Those wheels weigh 21lbs each.
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On the SPT VS W710, good thing you don't have that money burning a hole in your pocket... I doubt we will see anything near an RX-8 size in 2008.

I had the 245-40-18 SPT on our car, got 30k miles out of them, could have been more but we did some drift work last weekend.
Interesting. So you chose an SPT in a 245 size over a 225. Have you done any rain events with them? Any thoughts/comments on how they performed in the wet in that size?

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Now where did I say anything about P1's?
Look at your reply in post #30. I was talking about the P1's and you replied.

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Right now you have to get the P1 bored out to fit the RX-8 because it is only available in the 56.1 hb. Subydude will sell a set bored out for the RX-8 for $850. They are listing them as 19.2 lbs.
You don't necessarly have to get them bored out. They also some in 73hb. SubyDude is showing gunmettal ones with the 73hb. The availabilty seem to vary by either rota's whims or what the vendors whim.
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Originally Posted by chiketkd
Interesting. So you chose an SPT in a 245 size over a 225. Have you done any rain events with them? Any thoughts/comments on how they performed in the wet in that size?
I chose the 245 because imho 225 is a Miata size tire. I got these as street tires and wanted a tire size that should have been on the car. To buy any street tire with the idea of using it as a rain is a waste of money. If you do not have a full "race rain" you will lose.
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
I chose the 245 because imho 225 is a Miata size tire. I got these as street tires and wanted a tire size that should have been on the car. To buy any street tire with the idea of using it as a rain is a waste of money. If you do not have a full "race rain" you will lose.
Well the SPT's will be better than nothing. Thanks.
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Had the Mazda dealer in Richmond, VA dick around with me for 6 hours on Saturday with my trade-in value and the interest rate on the loan.

Ended up walking out, calling my Credit Union and getting a low 5% interest rate (for any car new/used '06 or newer) and going to Carmax and getting 1K more for my trade. While there, I checked their database and found a 2006 Galaxy Grey 6MT RX-8 with only 13K miles on the odometer, with the sport package (HID's, DSC and fog lamps) and a rear spoiler for 20K. She also has 2.5 years/37K miles left on the factory warranty. Put down a deposit today (yes, Carmax is open on Sunday) and she'll be transferred from Raleigh, NC to C-ville in 7-14 days.

P.S. New koni SA shocks will be ordered in 1-2 weeks.

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I wound up selling my RX-8 to Carmax...and it was was pretty low miles fo rbeing 3 years old... :eeps:


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