1997-2001 Prelude vs RX8
03-27-2008, 02:50 AM
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ERIC, this is what i'm talkin about. there will always be a KID to same something lame.
and i feel you. i've competed in a sanctioned event like cscc.
ALL i'm sayin is, the RX8 as when i owned it i wasn't very surprised about the speed. and it seems like many many many people suffer the lack of power tsb.
SOOO..... FLOPPIN, got any real fact you can stick in... or just like to talk outta ur ***?
so yes, the RX8 may feel/be faster, but its just very tempermental with such things like quality of fuel, premix, oil grade etc...
whereas with any given honda, put gas in it and drive. what you get is what you get.
p.s. floppin, my prelude was a 4th gen. curb was rated at 2954lbs and it was gutted, so i would assume it weighs less. i'm positively sure the 8 has higher potential, but given all the bugs from the factory has to be worked out.
look man, i'm not even tryin at all to make enemies here. but at the very least give ur honest feedback. you guys saw mine... am i not makin any sense here?
or do the newbs need to look up the lack of power tsb? and those common complaints?
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03-27-2008, 03:14 AM
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i own an 8 too... and NOWHERE did i state prelude is better than the 8. i clearly stated it isn't a fair compare. i look at it for its pros and cons perspective.
i ain't lookin for a fight with u. its not worth it...
trust me, you'll have to own a different car later in life. keep ur mind open, thats all i ask of u.
I don't see your opinion being any greater or lesser than anyone else. Everyone has an opinion and yours is just as good. I just thought all of your "suck it and grow up" language was funny because I think this has been a very tame discussion regarding another car vs. the RX-8.
My personal opinion, the RX-8 is a TTD car for NASA and the Prelude is a TTF. Take any good driver - not some street racer - a race licensed driver from a sanctioning body like NASA or SCCA and give them a RX-8 or Prelude in full factory trim and the RX-8 wins 9 out of 10 times.
My personal opinion, the RX-8 is a TTD car for NASA and the Prelude is a TTF. Take any good driver - not some street racer - a race licensed driver from a sanctioning body like NASA or SCCA and give them a RX-8 or Prelude in full factory trim and the RX-8 wins 9 out of 10 times.
and as with my statement, i stick with it. i ain't a liar... and those who are familiar with the "lack of power" tsb, can maybe understand more when i said it felt slower than my prelude. (dynoed at 167whp on mustang dyno, stock w/o update flash)
quite honestly, i don't want anyone to take me the wrong way. but lets not be in denial here. i mean, who wants to drive a shitty car? although my 8 is touchy, that makes no impact on me whatsoever. i still have my faith and willing to deal with its current flaws. and i think my case is truly genuine... anyone else ever feel their 8 has "lack of power"?
03-27-2008, 03:25 AM
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let me not waste anymore time here.
to the OP, take my opinion with the mature evaluation that i assume you'll give it.
and may this be a good example that its quite a bad idea to ask about a car comparo on a forum.
cheers.
to the OP, take my opinion with the mature evaluation that i assume you'll give it.
and may this be a good example that its quite a bad idea to ask about a car comparo on a forum.
cheers.
03-27-2008, 04:03 AM
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then all is good. and i honestly hope i've helped. and i was very sincere with my opinions.
you had a great car, like I myself did before. but the mix-up may lie in that i owned lightened 4th gen prelude.
its ridiculous to hear that the prelude sites may think the rx8's are garbage...
thats ridiculous too imo. had all rotaries not have to worry aboout emissions, we'd all be running in top shape, and my opinion would've just changed completely.
but i definitelly agree with everyone on here that the RX8 generally has better handling and vehicle dynamics. there's no way around the truth behind that...
you had a great car, like I myself did before. but the mix-up may lie in that i owned lightened 4th gen prelude.
its ridiculous to hear that the prelude sites may think the rx8's are garbage...
thats ridiculous too imo. had all rotaries not have to worry aboout emissions, we'd all be running in top shape, and my opinion would've just changed completely.
but i definitelly agree with everyone on here that the RX8 generally has better handling and vehicle dynamics. there's no way around the truth behind that...
03-27-2008, 04:07 AM
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I've owned both these cars and I can't believe this is a discussion. My 1998 Prelude Type SH was fast on the freeway and that was it. From a stop it wasn't anything special. This was after quite a few mods. I loved that car, but really next to my 07 RX-8 there's no question which is a better performance platform. And yes I tracked them both. The H22 in the prelude was nice though.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA! REALLY?
ERIC, this is what i'm talkin about. there will always be a KID to same something lame.
and i feel you. i've competed in a sanctioned event like cscc.
ALL i'm sayin is, the RX8 as when i owned it i wasn't very surprised about the speed. and it seems like many many many people suffer the lack of power tsb.
SOOO..... FLOPPIN, got any real fact you can stick in... or just like to talk outta ur ***?
so yes, the RX8 may feel/be faster, but its just very tempermental with such things like quality of fuel, premix, oil grade etc...
whereas with any given honda, put gas in it and drive. what you get is what you get.
p.s. floppin, my prelude was a 4th gen. curb was rated at 2954lbs and it was gutted, so i would assume it weighs less. i'm positively sure the 8 has higher potential, but given all the bugs from the factory has to be worked out.
look man, i'm not even tryin at all to make enemies here. but at the very least give ur honest feedback. you guys saw mine... am i not makin any sense here?
or do the newbs need to look up the lack of power tsb? and those common complaints?
ERIC, this is what i'm talkin about. there will always be a KID to same something lame.
and i feel you. i've competed in a sanctioned event like cscc.
ALL i'm sayin is, the RX8 as when i owned it i wasn't very surprised about the speed. and it seems like many many many people suffer the lack of power tsb.
SOOO..... FLOPPIN, got any real fact you can stick in... or just like to talk outta ur ***?
so yes, the RX8 may feel/be faster, but its just very tempermental with such things like quality of fuel, premix, oil grade etc...
whereas with any given honda, put gas in it and drive. what you get is what you get.
p.s. floppin, my prelude was a 4th gen. curb was rated at 2954lbs and it was gutted, so i would assume it weighs less. i'm positively sure the 8 has higher potential, but given all the bugs from the factory has to be worked out.
look man, i'm not even tryin at all to make enemies here. but at the very least give ur honest feedback. you guys saw mine... am i not makin any sense here?
or do the newbs need to look up the lack of power tsb? and those common complaints?
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look! prelude has 200hp 163tq and 2954 curb iirc. it was a faster street car in my opinion.
Right, and the 6port MT has 232hp and 160tq AT has 212hp and the 4port has 197hp. Either way, the RX-8 weighs less than a prelude and has a 6speed transmission. The prelude isn't a bad car, but it's still FWD, less powerful, and heavier....
The RX-8 weighs 2800-2900, btw...
03-28-2008, 02:59 AM
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Eww dont call the accord or RSX an up to date prelude. The prelude is still better than those cars in some ways and its over 10 years old!
03-28-2008, 03:12 PM
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^^ a TSX maybe???
nah, not even close. the closes thing that may share more in common with the prelude is the S2000 or NSX due to its FRM(fiberglass reinforced metal) cylinder liners. but just that only...
nah, not even close. the closes thing that may share more in common with the prelude is the S2000 or NSX due to its FRM(fiberglass reinforced metal) cylinder liners. but just that only...
03-28-2008, 03:26 PM
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[QUOTE=FloppinNachos;2371855]I already posted the numbers in response to your other thread.
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look! prelude has 200hp 163tq and 2954 curb iirc. it was a faster street car in my opinion.
either you're hardheaded or you just don't like to read... i did somewhere state my car was an lighter gutted 4th gen. and if you look purely at numbers for performance...you'll comeup short.
so where does either car get all use of its torque at what rpm? or you just look at numbers???
i don't know where i lost you lil buddy... i have an '07 GT pkg. and i have only recently gotten MSP16 reflash for lack of power. care to know what the weight of the GT pkg is?
by book, 3053lbs (6sp manual with popular options per catalog)... that minus what i've dropped per signature. and its STILL a less torquey streetcar compared to my "hopped-up prelude" in just street driving.did i give you all the scenerio to clarify why i'm not surprised with my 8's power? (maybe up until recent...feelin the power is coming back after the flash)
if not, i don't care that you don't agree with me. ITS MY OPINION! and i'm sure others are well aware that i am not disagreeing with them about the 8. but understand that i've gave them a different scenerio in which is why i state so.
FLOP, please just go drive one. a original lighter 4th gen VTEC prelude. you'll notice the low-end torque difference in driving around the city.
the OP asked of 1997-2001 specifically... but i chimed in, why not? i did have the "97 motor...
and really, really... ur opinion has a higher biased factor being most others on here have owned both!and the RX8 being possibly ur first car experience. so just calm down.... we all love the RX8 just as much as u do.
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look! prelude has 200hp 163tq and 2954 curb iirc. it was a faster street car in my opinion.
either you're hardheaded or you just don't like to read... i did somewhere state my car was an lighter gutted 4th gen. and if you look purely at numbers for performance...you'll comeup short.
so where does either car get all use of its torque at what rpm? or you just look at numbers???
i don't know where i lost you lil buddy... i have an '07 GT pkg. and i have only recently gotten MSP16 reflash for lack of power. care to know what the weight of the GT pkg is?
by book, 3053lbs (6sp manual with popular options per catalog)... that minus what i've dropped per signature. and its STILL a less torquey streetcar compared to my "hopped-up prelude" in just street driving.did i give you all the scenerio to clarify why i'm not surprised with my 8's power? (maybe up until recent...feelin the power is coming back after the flash)
if not, i don't care that you don't agree with me. ITS MY OPINION! and i'm sure others are well aware that i am not disagreeing with them about the 8. but understand that i've gave them a different scenerio in which is why i state so.
FLOP, please just go drive one. a original lighter 4th gen VTEC prelude. you'll notice the low-end torque difference in driving around the city.
the OP asked of 1997-2001 specifically... but i chimed in, why not? i did have the "97 motor...
and really, really... ur opinion has a higher biased factor being most others on here have owned both!and the RX8 being possibly ur first car experience. so just calm down.... we all love the RX8 just as much as u do.
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03-28-2008, 04:05 PM
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well for the most part, it does handle better on a much higher scale. not just on the weight side, but the dynamics and where the weight are placed.
the rx8 is just great, but it does have a few things it asks of its owners
-check/add oil every so often
-no cold shut-offs
-premix (many enthusiast on here do so with good reason)
-open up the revs
and these are just basic stuff...
coils, wires, plugs, cat, and such are just a few things this monster motor loves to pound on.
if ur lude lived this long, no worries.and what you'll love about the 8 is its 50/50 weight, aluminum hood, 225/45s, dual exhausts, 9k rpms and 12.7 inch rotors!
things you'll notice instantly over the lude.
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WOW! so you're running all of our feedback and making the decision on the RX8?
well for the most part, it does handle better on a much higher scale. not just on the weight side, but the dynamics and where the weight are placed.
the rx8 is just great, but it does have a few things it asks of its owners
-check/add oil every so often
-no cold shut-offs
-premix (many enthusiast on here do so with good reason)
-open up the revs
and these are just basic stuff...
coils, wires, plugs, cat, and such are just a few things this monster motor loves to pound on.
if ur lude lived this long, no worries.and what you'll love about the 8 is its 50/50 weight, aluminum hood, 225/45s, dual exhausts, 9k rpms and 12.7 inch rotors!
things you'll notice instantly over the lude.
well for the most part, it does handle better on a much higher scale. not just on the weight side, but the dynamics and where the weight are placed.
the rx8 is just great, but it does have a few things it asks of its owners
-check/add oil every so often
-no cold shut-offs
-premix (many enthusiast on here do so with good reason)
-open up the revs
and these are just basic stuff...
coils, wires, plugs, cat, and such are just a few things this monster motor loves to pound on.
if ur lude lived this long, no worries.and what you'll love about the 8 is its 50/50 weight, aluminum hood, 225/45s, dual exhausts, 9k rpms and 12.7 inch rotors!
things you'll notice instantly over the lude.
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[QUOTE=TrochoidMagic;2374823]
I understood your previous post as saying that the prelude was faster than the RX-8. It may feel "torquier" but it is not faster in any way shape or form. In a straight line, the RX-8 is faster, top speed? RX-8. handling? RX-8. bucking around, torque steer, and other obnoxious things that give you the sensation of speed? prelude.... . Glass-like smoothness? RX-8.
I already posted the numbers in response to your other thread.
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look! prelude has 200hp 163tq and 2954 curb iirc. it was a faster street car in my opinion.
either you're hardheaded or you just don't like to read... i did somewhere state my car was an lighter gutted 4th gen. and if you look purely at numbers for performance...you'll comeup short.
so where does either car get all use of its torque at what rpm? or you just look at numbers???
i don't know where i lost you lil buddy... i have an '07 GT pkg. and i have only recently gotten MSP16 reflash for lack of power. care to know what the weight of the GT pkg is?
by book, 3053lbs (6sp manual with popular options per catalog)... that minus what i've dropped per signature. and its STILL a less torquey streetcar compared to my "hopped-up prelude" in just street driving.did i give you all the scenerio to clarify why i'm not surprised with my 8's power? (maybe up until recent...feelin the power is coming back after the flash)
if not, i don't care that you don't agree with me. ITS MY OPINION! and i'm sure others are well aware that i am not disagreeing with them about the 8. but understand that i've gave them a different scenerio in which is why i state so.
FLOP, please just go drive one. a original lighter 4th gen VTEC prelude. you'll notice the low-end torque difference in driving around the city.
the OP asked of 1997-2001 specifically... but i chimed in, why not? i did have the "97 motor...
and really, really... ur opinion has a higher biased factor being most others on here have owned both!and the RX8 being possibly ur first car experience. so just calm down.... we all love the RX8 just as much as u do.
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Originally Posted by TrochoidMagic
look! prelude has 200hp 163tq and 2954 curb iirc. it was a faster street car in my opinion.
either you're hardheaded or you just don't like to read... i did somewhere state my car was an lighter gutted 4th gen. and if you look purely at numbers for performance...you'll comeup short.
so where does either car get all use of its torque at what rpm? or you just look at numbers???
i don't know where i lost you lil buddy... i have an '07 GT pkg. and i have only recently gotten MSP16 reflash for lack of power. care to know what the weight of the GT pkg is?
by book, 3053lbs (6sp manual with popular options per catalog)... that minus what i've dropped per signature. and its STILL a less torquey streetcar compared to my "hopped-up prelude" in just street driving.did i give you all the scenerio to clarify why i'm not surprised with my 8's power? (maybe up until recent...feelin the power is coming back after the flash)
if not, i don't care that you don't agree with me. ITS MY OPINION! and i'm sure others are well aware that i am not disagreeing with them about the 8. but understand that i've gave them a different scenerio in which is why i state so.
FLOP, please just go drive one. a original lighter 4th gen VTEC prelude. you'll notice the low-end torque difference in driving around the city.
the OP asked of 1997-2001 specifically... but i chimed in, why not? i did have the "97 motor...
and really, really... ur opinion has a higher biased factor being most others on here have owned both!and the RX8 being possibly ur first car experience. so just calm down.... we all love the RX8 just as much as u do.
I understood your previous post as saying that the prelude was faster than the RX-8. It may feel "torquier" but it is not faster in any way shape or form. In a straight line, the RX-8 is faster, top speed? RX-8. handling? RX-8. bucking around, torque steer, and other obnoxious things that give you the sensation of speed? prelude.... . Glass-like smoothness? RX-8.
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