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Old 09-08-2006, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDiaboloco
Am I the only one that noticed that the max/min temperature scales are different in every photo... Sometimes widely so?

In any case, it seems obvious to me that the fender vents only work with the car in motion. This series of photos doesn't prove to us that the vents are for decoration only.
i did the same with mine,

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/rx8-seen-predator-96062/

the side verts were still cold, this is litterally right after drinving back and forth for lunch, do a run down the private road where i work at 100 mph, turn in, park, jump out and take a pic. the vents should have had some residual heat. I've literally seen it pick up handprints on walls minutes after you take you hand away.




I can do pics anytime. what do you guys want?
Old 09-08-2006, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
I'm not too sure about that camara you use. Not only is the scale different in each picture
the following apprears to be wrong.

There is no wrap on the A/C hose up against the fire wall and the tube shows 75 degree max. That's bullshit. You can burn your hand on that tube.

The carburator does not appear to be hot. This is also bullshit.
Go take a drive, then open the hood and put your hands arounf the TB. It's scalding hot and will scar you.

While the pictures are good from a relative perspective it was not a infared camara as the one that the military and fire departments use. Therefore it's not that accurate at all.

Are you telling me the only thing that cools our cars are those small oil coolers?

There is no heat from the front at all. This is why I think the camara is based upon some pre-programed light meter. What we are seeing is light reflectivity based upon heat.

I use to work for a company that made infared/heat camaras. Maybe I should swing by there sometime
the camera I'm using is better than our 5 yr old flir which is what the police and fire dept here use. This thing is great. I can follow wires inside of walls with it. you can see where a outlet box is hot and follow it back to a box and see the conduit in the walls warm. behind sheetrock.

the scale is auto adjustable, you can fix it, but then stuff whites out. it's very hard to do a thermographic scan without a dynamic scale. you look for hot spots relative to the surroundings.
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Originally Posted by Aseras
the camera I'm using is better than our 5 yr old flir which is what the police and fire dept here use. This thing is great. I can follow wires inside of walls with it. you can see where a outlet box is hot and follow it back to a box and see the conduit in the walls warm. behind sheetrock.

the scale is auto adjustable, you can fix it, but then stuff whites out. it's very hard to do a thermographic scan without a dynamic scale. you look for hot spots relative to the surroundings.
ditto on everything...

another cool thing is seeing your dog's paw prints on the floor
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so... basically our vents are useless. Perhaps it's time for a DIY to make them more than decorations!
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Originally Posted by Aseras
the side verts were still cold, this is litterally right after drinving back and forth for lunch, do a run down the private road where i work at 100 mph, turn in, park, jump out and take a pic. the vents should have had some residual heat. I've literally seen it pick up handprints on walls minutes after you take you hand away.
Well then I stand corrected. It seems counter-intuitive that they'd be "useless", but there ya go.

I'll get over it.
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After a little investigation in my engine compartment, there doesn't appear to be much way for any air to make its way from there to the side vents... on each side I see two fairly small holes that would allow air to escape to the fender vents. One is maybe two inches across and the other somewhat larger, at 3-4 inches across. Both are fairly high up, near the hood. I can definitely see SOME air making it through those holes, but not a lot.

I'm sure I'm not the first one to have snooped around in there looking, but it's new to ME. So there.
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Originally Posted by DrDiaboloco
After a little investigation in my engine compartment, there doesn't appear to be much way for any air to make its way from there to the side vents... on each side I see two fairly small holes that would allow air to escape to the fender vents. One is maybe two inches across and the other somewhat larger, at 3-4 inches across. Both are fairly high up, near the hood. I can definitely see SOME air making it through those holes, but not a lot.

I'm sure I'm not the first one to have snooped around in there looking, but it's new to ME. So there.
the real vents are inside the tire wells
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abbid posted pics in some thread (mebbe this one?) that showed its basically a closed system with a plastic vent stuck on ...
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If you take off the inner wheel well plastic you can see that this inner area is simply normal car construction. That is, the plastic liner keeps as much moisture out of that area where the 'vents' are to limit corrosion. The metal is only barely painted beyond primer and some overspray. Sure there are a couple of ways air can get in there to escape from the 'vents', but they are limited to a small hole or two from the engine compartment, and any residual air that might make it up and over the plastic fender liner, and that's not much. There's lots easier ways for hot air to escape into space.
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I'm sold the vents dont work!
Thanks! All the proof I need!
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now i know what the 8 looks like to the Terminator and the Predator (both the drone, and the Predator, in well, Predator)
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Originally Posted by zenmoused
so... basically our vents are useless. Perhaps it's time for a DIY to make them more than decorations!
I'm on it. I just need to get a thermo cam. I should be fin by tue or wed with stock vents.
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Originally Posted by Aseras
the camera I'm using is better than our 5 yr old flir which is what the police and fire dept here use. This thing is great. I can follow wires inside of walls with it. you can see where a outlet box is hot and follow it back to a box and see the conduit in the walls warm. behind sheetrock.

the scale is auto adjustable, you can fix it, but then stuff whites out. it's very hard to do a thermographic scan without a dynamic scale. you look for hot spots relative to the surroundings.
Correct it's relative.

Look at my points.

No heat from the A/C line, that's BS.

No heat from the throttle body that's BS.

Go drive for 20 minutes and then open the hood and touch them.

Not knockin the images or camra, just trying to keep it in perspective.

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I am bumping this just because I was considering taking these type of pics with my friends thermal cam. Pretty good stuff.
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Wow, didn't even know this thread existed. Those pics are pretty sweet. 9k do it, it would be nice to see the difference with a different car with different mods .
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5 years later and no interior shots, lol. Wouldn't be any new info though, we know the cupholders would glow red hot.
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I may do it, my buddy does home inspections and just bought one.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
can you do a pic while moving? seems to me that'd be the only time side vents are functional. hot air passing out thru them.
Exactly. They are functional. Otherwise they would not have holes in them like many non-functional scoops and such. If you shine a light through the holes in the engine bay at night you will see the light coming through the vents. Do they force out a ton of hot air?...no.

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Originally Posted by missinmahseven
SpeedSource lines the inside (or is it outside?!) of their stock, OEM Mazda airboxes with gold foil in their ST-class Rx-8s.

Dunno how much gold foil costs, but do wonder if good old Reynolds Wrap would give you a good chunk of what gold foil does...
Guess you have not seen my engine bay.
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Guess you have not seen my engine bay.
You foil wrapped your engine bay 5 years ago?
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Yup!
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can the cannon 60 D do these thermo shots? thinking of getting one...
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