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Old 07-15-2012, 09:39 AM
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Because you wrote about your car in a public forum and i'm entitled to express my opinion.
Since I love the rx8 as a platform it deeply saddens me to see so many poorly built cars being exposed to the public and presented as if they were cool.
Cool story bro
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Not too sure what "poorly built" means assuming his car was built at a Mazda manufacturing plant that probably built thousands of other Rx8s. Now if you didnt like the route of styling he took with the car, I would assume it would have been much easier to have clicked the back button on your internet browser



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I got Tanabe sustec pro coilovers
Looks dope man. In your second pic with the stock rims, were the coilovers on their lowest setting or did you have room on the threads to go lower?
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Not too sure what "poorly built" means assuming his car was built at a Mazda manufacturing plant that probably built thousands of other Rx8s. Now if you didnt like the route of styling he took with the car, I would assume it would have been much easier to have clicked the back button on your internet browser





Looks dope man. In your second pic with the stock rims, were the coilovers on their lowest setting or did you have room on the threads to go lower?
Thanks bro for backing me up

And yea I was lower on my stocks and i also had more thread to go lower but the roads here are terrible. But since I had to stretch my new tires i also had to raise the car up by half an inch :/ lol I got these coilovers for a really good price
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I would assume it would have been much easier to have clicked the back button on your internet browser
Nah, somebody has to keep the standards high otherwise all the other noobs will think that crappy replica bodykits and fake wheels are "the ****".
His rx8 is barely a crack ***** while other members here have built stunning escorts
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Well if you like to waste extra money on an "authentic" part that serves the *EXACT* same purpose as a replica and has no effect on performance whatsoever. By all means do so. To each their own. I'm not getting trolled into an"authentic" vs replica debate.
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^ The OP's car looks good, so I will not comment on his choice of parts, but I couldn't disagree with you more about your statement. *Exact* would imply proper fitment and function out of the box, which more often then not, does not happen with cheap replicas. It's not about being cool and showing off with labels, it's about buying parts that work and function without all of the headaches associated with a sub-par product.
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I never implied fitment out of the box would be the same. With a little bit of elbow grease anyone with some sense can make anything work. As far a purpose goes there is no difference whatsoever. Meaning exterior styling and looks. If I did have a replica MS kit on my car 98% of the people I drive by on a daily basis would have no idea nor would they give a flying crap if it was authentic or not.

Personally I could justify paying an upwards of $2k for a body kit when i could get a replica for alot less and make it fit. And neither if them would have any effect on my car besides cosmetics. Only a handful of people would be able to tell the difference anyway. Rather save the money and get a few cases of premix instead lol.
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If you ever saw an authentic MS kit next to a shitty replica you would understand the differences.

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if you ever saw an authentic MS kit next to a shitty replica you would understand the differences.
wow really....
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wow really....

Yes, really.
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Well, let's say that one can't find an authentic MS kit within their budget. So, they buy a replica kit, and put in the effort to make it fit nicely. What's the harm? Should they just throw in the towel and not bother to make those mods?
(Same goes with wheels or many other items.)

I'm not sure why it's such a big deal to some of you.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Yes, really.
The easiest way to tell is the black bar, as ive said in other posts... vacuum forming that piece and painting it matte black would be the easiest route and would only cost about 5-10 dollars.

another easy way to tell is the dark gray/black accents on the front bumper, these accents are on the sideskirts on the bottom along with the rear bumper portion.

obviously the fit needs to be good on a genuine ms kit.. but i believe i read a few posts where the genuine kit wasnt fantastic fitting. Getting a replica and making all the edges nice makes it even harder to tell.

another small way to tell is the oil cooler ducts that the ms kit has, along with the type of mesh used.

Of course, when you add these things it can be difficult to tell. Several other factors come into play like the texture but thats getting extreme. \\

EDIT: also there may be fitting issues by the headlights/sidemarkers.


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And don't forget the important duct work that the MS piece has that the replica's do not. If you want to run a replica I have no problem with it but if you think no one will notice then you are wrong. Having a shitty fitting body kit is the worst mod you can have IMO. And if you show your car you will likely lose points for it.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
And don't forget the important duct work that the MS piece has that the replica's do not. If you want to run a replica I have no problem with it but if you think no one will notice then you are wrong. Having a shitty fitting body kit is the worst mod you can have IMO. And if you show your car you will likely lose points for it.
These are the same idiots that would buy replica watches and purses because "they look the same".
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Clothing is a completely different concept. Its an everyday occurrence where most people know common brands and fakes are easily detectable. Now if you drove an rx8 with some xxr wheels and an MS replica kit most people on the street couldn't distinguish you from the guy with an authentic ms kit and some authentic ccws or
volks.

Hell even guys who know about cars probably couldn't tell the difference. Its only maybe 2 to 3 trolls from an online forum that would be able to notice ... if they inspected closely.
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So you only buy authentic wear because people may tell the difference and not because replicas and fakes steal their designs and make money out of them?

From an engineering perspective there's a lot of difference between cheap replica wheels and the real deal most of the time, even if the shape's the same btw.
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What the hell is wrong with you people?
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Originally Posted by GK1707
Clothing is a completely different concept. Its an everyday occurrence where most people know common brands and fakes are easily detectable. Now if you drove an rx8 with some xxr wheels and an MS replica kit most people on the street couldn't distinguish you from the guy with an authentic ms kit and some authentic ccws or
volks.

Hell even guys who know about cars probably couldn't tell the difference. Its only maybe 2 to 3 trolls from an online forum that would be able to notice ... if they inspected closely.
oh no you just didnt compare xxr and ccw and volk.

Let me help you out here... Its like comparing varrstoen to volk? the only difference there is the sticker on the spoke and the raised lettering on the wheel. xxr does not make replicas that look like real wheels. rota is a little better, but not by much, some models look close, some look so far from it.

i explained what is noticeable, and the picture i posted is one of the better replicas to mimic the original minus the black bar.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
And don't forget the important duct work that the MS piece has that the replica's do not. If you want to run a replica I have no problem with it but if you think no one will notice then you are wrong. Having a shitty fitting body kit is the worst mod you can have IMO. And if you show your car you will likely lose points for it.
did i miss something 9k? what ductwork? for the oil coolers? I said that above..

does the ms kit not use the same undertray?
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oh no you just didnt compare xxr and ccw and volk.

Let me help you out here... Its like comparing varrstoen to volk? the only difference there is the sticker on the spoke and the raised lettering on the wheel. xxr does not make replicas that look like real wheels. rota is a little better, but not by much, some models look close, some look so far from it.

i explained what is noticeable, and the picture i posted is one of the better replicas to mimic the original minus the black bar.

Well to the average layman walking down the street xxr and ccws are the exact same thing with different looks.. *wheels on a car*. Now I never said buying authentic was a bad thing. When it comes to parts that matter in safety and performance I would go authentic over replica anytime mainly because the bigger name brands have the time and funds to R&D their parts correctly and to spec.

But all the bashing over replica body parts makes you guys guys seem really dumb. Because people are gonna buy their own preference whether you like it or not. For every big "authentic" company there is gonna be another smaller one who manufactures a similar product at a more reasonable price.

From a business perspective. Don't like it? Start your own company, create a body part or rim design and try patenting the design. It won't even be worth marketing after you spend all your funds getting a patent and you'll see you just have to live with the replicas. I guess some people don't like decent quality parts at affordable prices.
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Originally Posted by GK1707
I never implied fitment out of the box would be the same. With a little bit of elbow grease anyone with some sense can make anything work. As far a purpose goes there is no difference whatsoever. Meaning exterior styling and looks. If I did have a replica MS kit on my car 98% of the people I drive by on a daily basis would have no idea nor would they give a flying crap if it was authentic or not.

Personally I could justify paying an upwards of $2k for a body kit when i could get a replica for alot less and make it fit. And neither if them would have any effect on my car besides cosmetics. Only a handful of people would be able to tell the difference anyway. Rather save the money and get a few cases of premix instead lol.
For the most part I see your point, but on a personal level it bothers me when something doesn't work like the original does. Of course, you actually have to see an original to know the difference. The fitment issues usually never work out. It's ok if you want to buy the parts, but even then there will sometimes be gaps and the side markers won't line up on rep bumpers. Judging from your comment, you haven't attempted this yet, but are contemplating it.
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Well, let's say that one can't find an authentic MS kit within their budget. So, they buy a replica kit, and put in the effort to make it fit nicely. What's the harm? Should they just throw in the towel and not bother to make those mods?
(Same goes with wheels or many other items.)

I'm not sure why it's such a big deal to some of you.
It's a personal thing because I'm picky about it, not what other's think about what I would buy. The fact that replica body kits don't fit, has been beat to death on this forum 875495 times, so no need to explain.

With that said, the OP's car looks good.
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:36 AM
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I have to agree with some of the above posters in this thread...i would never put a cheap, replica piece on my car..ESPECIALLY if it was a body piece or wheel or w/e...you can always tell the difference imo..

BUT..i guess not everyone can afford the real stuff, so to each his own..
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BUT..i guess not everyone can afford the real stuff, so to each his own..
You can always buy a cheap casio if you can't afford a Jaeger-LeCoultre... which means you can also keep your car stock if you can't afford good items.
Whatever though, it all comes to our advantage if the world is full of douches. It's easier to make a living exploiting them.
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