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Old 10-19-2006, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
They were also bigger and a lot heavier... soo... they should put a FD in there to whoop ***.
does cars would have look wors racing an fd than the rx-8 did with them , normally and fd would lap tsukuba in 1:03.xxx range, even if they where bigger and heavier they had better power to weight ratio so......

you know what I find intresting is that the rx-8 was only 1 second slower than an m3

that mazdaspeed car with 40 hp more would be pure sex!
Old 10-19-2006, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
In RX8's defense, i dont think it had a very good driver :p i mrsn he is a pro JGTC driver and all, but i dont think hes that good compared to gansan
i agree. gansan is the most aggressive and probably fastest of the bm drivers.
Old 10-19-2006, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
does cars would have look wors racing an fd than the rx-8 did with them , normally and fd would lap tsukuba in 1:03.xxx range, even if they where bigger and heavier they had better power to weight ratio so......

you know what I find intresting is that the rx-8 was only 1 second slower than an m3

that mazdaspeed car with 40 hp more would be pure sex!
No way in hell the a stock FD would lap Tsukuba in 1:03, it's more like 1:06-1:09 depending on model and year.
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Originally Posted by Ike
No way in hell the a stock FD would lap Tsukuba in 1:03, it's more like 1:06-1:09 depending on model and year.
maybe im wrong, ill chek
Old 10-19-2006, 11:12 AM
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your very wrong!
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I think the fastest I've seen was 1:05.9XX once they upped it to 280ps.
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Originally Posted by Ike
No way in hell the a stock FD would lap Tsukuba in 1:03, it's more like 1:06-1:09 depending on model and year.
i have check, the time very from 1:04.xxx to 1:05.xxx so I was wrong by one second, I did see a battle that the rx-7 did 1:03.xxx, ill check my pc when I get home
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
i have check, the time very from 1:04.xxx to 1:05.xxx so I was wrong by one second, I did see a battle that the rx-7 did 1:03.xxx, ill check my pc when I get home
I just can't see a stock FD dropping below high 1:05s, here's the fastest I've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlgmW34zeBM

1:04 around Tsukuba is supercar territory and the RX-7 had a tough enough time beating its Japanese competitors.
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i have seing that video, the one im talking about had a black fd, maybe the car was not stock? I dont remenber but im sure it did 1:03.xxx
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we where all wrong, the knights sport was the one that did it in 1:03.xxx, but the RX-7 type RS did it in 1:04.888

acording to these # the ms8 its capable of turning almost the same lap time as the m3 cls

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...kuba+lap+times

it is amazing how much info its in this forum!
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I think rx8club should stick with rx8's instead of m3's and FD's lol...
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not with 40 hp more
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy

acording to these # the ms8 its capable of turning almost the same lap time as the m3 cls
Nice link but how do you come to that conclusion?
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mazdaspeed RX-8 1:08,70
BMW m3 1:08,28

very similar only 1/2 a second, but there may be a better time for the m3 that i just dont remenber about

actually I like the way they use to display lap times, each lap time was display at the end of the race that way you can juge what happen, and how good was the driver

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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
mazdaspeed RX-8 1:08,70
BMW m3 1:08,28

very similar only 1/2 a second, but there may be a better time for the m3 that i just dont remenber about

actually I like the way they use to display lap times, each lap time was display at the end of the race that way you can juge what happen, and how good was the driver
I'm not sure if there is a better time for the M3 or not but half a second on a small track like that isn't almost the same in my eyes. Also keep in mind the RX-8 is on near R compound tires and the M3 is on lower performance stock tires.
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your right , but thats how the ms8 used to come from the factory, but if we get into that the rx-8 also has racing suspencion and other things, but the m3 has a much better power to weight ratio

If mazda had any ***** the rx-8 would be on par with cars that cost much more, sometimes I get so **** of at them , but then I go to my drive way, and love them for what they have made for me to enjoy
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Mazda does have *****, but they know the rx8 wouldnt sell if it had too much ***** stock... soo..
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nobody wants too much *****, thats a lot of $$$$, just 40 more hp, thats all
Old 10-19-2006, 05:39 PM
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Dont forget torque. I'd rather have 40 more lb-ft of tq than hp.
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i wouldn't mind having the car 300 lbs lighter!! i just lost 15lbs so i have 285lbs to go!
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
nobody wants too much *****, thats a lot of $$$$, just 40 more hp, thats all
OK.. youre just talking out of your ***.
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Originally Posted by Tirminyl
Dont forget torque. I'd rather have 40 more lb-ft of tq than hp.
lets say 40 hp and 30 lbft?
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
lets say 40 hp and 30 lbft?

I would rather see the RX8 with 200+ft/lbs of torque than 270ish hp.
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My son will be driving in three years and will get my 8 and then I will be driving a fast two seated rear wheel drive car. I want an S2000 or Elise so bad.
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Nice vids, nothing surprising about them, so why the negative comments.

Vid one against M5/M3/350Z/S2000, yes the 8 lost but the S2000 was fully modded with 270hp, while the 8 had stock power. Still stayed within a sec. of the M3 and 350. Don't forget when Top Gear matched 8 times vs. a 350Z, the Z it was the original lower power non-"track" model. And did anyone really expect the 8 to beat a 500hp M5?

Vid two against a WRX/Civic R/IntegraR/etc. showed the other cars with specs not even available here. A 220hp 2600 pound civic? A 250hp WRX? Still, the 8 still had faster times than all but the R's.


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